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October 21st, 2009

UPDATED: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 8:48 am

Categories: Dell

Tags: Dell Computer Corp., Agent, Tech, Motherboard, Part Number, AC, Real Estate, Business Operations, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Those following me on Twitter will know that my Dell Studio 13 XPS developed a fault over the weekend where the battery suddenly refused to charge. No problems I thought, I’ll call Dell tech support …

OK, early Monday morning I gave Dell tech support a ring and, after a wait of a few minutes, I got through to someone wanting my service tag, had to give this about a dozen times, then eventually was put through to a tech support agent. After a few basic questions such as “is the AC adaptor plugged in?” and “is it switched on?” and “can you check so and so in the BIOS?” (the desired information, as it turned out, didn’t exist in the BIOS for this model anyway), the problem was diagnosed as a dodgy AC adaptor. I’d be sent a replacement overnight.

Great. That’s suited me great, a problem I could solve without needing an on-site visit.

Next day, adaptor arrives. I eagerly unpack it and plug it in and … the problem was still there.

Rats! Another call to Dell tech support. We once again go through the ritual of giving the service tag number half a dozen times, then the basic questions, and a few slightly deeper questions. This time, the problem is diagnosed as a faulty motherboard and an appointment was arranged for an on-site visit from an engineer.

Engineer arrived today. The nice chap arrived with a replacement motherboard and a new AC adaptor. Cool, a spare. Handy.

My Studio 13 XPS gets taken apart and rebuilt around a new motherboard over the course of about 40 minutes. I got suspicious that the repair might not be effective when I noticed that the AC port didn’t come directly off the motherboard but was instead on a separate daughter board connected onto the motherboard.

After the notebook was expertly assembled, the AC adaptor was hooked back up and the system restarted.

Problem remained …

Now, up until this point, I was happy with the service I’d received. Sure, I’d been on the phone for longer than I’d have wanted to be, and I had to endure a few moronic questions, but that’s all part of the tech support package. Tech support isn’t easy. But what happened next is where things started to go wrong.

The on-site tech has now figured out that the problem with the system is the daughter board that the power adaptor plugs into so he phones up Dell’s internal tech line to order the parts and arrange another visit. At first he’s now being asked a series of moronic questions such as “is the system plugged in?” and an odd series of question along the lines of ”is the AC adaptor plugged into the right socket?” and “can you try the other AC socket?” (there is only one …).

Cut a long story short, the upshot of his phone conversation was that I was getting another on-site visit the next day (tomorrow) and the same parts (motherboard and AC adaptor) would be once again swapped out. The tech apologized, suggested I get in touch with Dell to try to rectify the matter, and then left.

So then I get back in touch with Dell tech support … again …

You know the drill … wait … give my service tag several times over (I know my service tag off by heart) … get through to a tech support agent … more basic questions …

I then tried to find out what was going to be replaced on the next on-site visit. I’m told the motherboard and AC adaptor. I ask why, since these parts have already been replaced. I’m told it’s because the motherboard fitted by the on-site tech was DOA. I pointed out that it wasn’t and that it was a problem with the AC port. Tech support agent tells me that all ports are on the motherboard so it’ll be replaced along with the board (I was also told that “the motherboard is the brain of the computer” … thought I’d share that one with you … ). I point out that it’s not.

I’m put on hold. When the tech support agent comes back I’m now told that it is the daughterboard being replaced after all and that I shouldn’t worry and just wait for the on-site tech to come back …

Hmmm … that sets my spidie senses tingling at max. I get the feeling I’m not being told the truth and that I’ve been labeled as an awkward caller and I’m being dealt with as such. So I ask for the part number of the daughterboard being fitted.

See, a company like Dell revolved around part numbers. Everything, down to screws and stickers have their own part numbers. If a new daughterboard had been ordered, the tech support agent should have the part number handy … like on th screen in front of him.

“Why do you want it?” the tech support agent asks.

“Just so I know what’s being fitted” I say, casually.

I’m told that the on-site tech will be able to give me the part number tomorrow, but I insist that I’d like it now, just for the record.

I’m put on hold again.

When the tech support agent comes back on the line, I sense that there’s been a change in the mood. I’m asked my name. I give it, at the same time asking for the tech support agent’s name. I get it. I’m again reassured that on-site tech will be able to give me the part number tomorrow. I say that I’d like it now.

I’m put on hold again.

The tech support agent comes back on the line again and assures me that the daughterboard is being replaced tomorrow and that the on-site tech will be able to give me all the part numbers I need. I sense that the conversation is now going nowhere so I bid the support agent farewell.

Seems to me like a few things have gone wrong here.

  • Why can’t the on-site tech easily order the parts they need?
  • Why are the on-site techs being asked moronic questions like whether things are plugged in the right hole. Seriously, this is just dumb and a waste of time.
  • Why waste everyone’s time arranging a revisit to replace parts that are clearly working fine?

I’ll let you all know what happens tomorrow when the on-site techie arrives. My feeling is that he’ll arrive with another motherboard and AC adaptor …

[UPDATE: OK, on-site tech arrived with another replacement AC adaptor and another motherboard. No new AC adaptor part (which, thanks to @BillatDell I discovered has the part number T965H). Grrrr! This means that I was blatantly lied to on the phone yesterday.

The tech phones up Dell support too try to order the right part but couldn't make progress so decided to replace the motherboard anyway and at the same time get the part number he needed to order the right part.

On opening the system the on-site tech noticed that the AC adaptor connector was slightly misaligned, so rather than change the motherboard he realigned the connector. BINGO! That was the fault.

So the system is fixed. I'm happy about that, but I'm not happy that I was lied to and I'm not happy that getting something that's so simple (and cheap, compared to a motherboard) needed to take so many phone calls and two visits.]

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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RE: A few issues with the situation
When I got this H^HDell, one of the first things I did was to get from Dell's website a copy of the as-built specifications for it (I bought a retired corporate machine)

At the s... (Read the rest)
Posted by: bfilipiak@... Posted on: 10/23/09  (Edited: 10/23/09 @ 04:12) You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
The on-site tech support tech was obviously in the U.S., but ....  kd5auq | 10/21/09
That's funny  aep528 | 10/21/09
I should have asked the obvious .....  kd5auq | 10/21/09
Right on!  IT_User | 10/21/09
Dell: Just doesn't care  croberts | 10/21/09
Why would you think a Tech would know why?  jdbukis@... | 10/22/09
Talk about an unescessary run-around.  tbensen@... | 10/21/09
#1 Tech support is not nor ever has been dell  itguy08 | 10/21/09
Fair enough, but not because Apple is any better  Rob Oakes | 10/21/09
Wow, that does not compare with my problem...  mrlinux | 10/21/09
Makes me wonder about their trajectory  Rob Oakes | 10/21/09
DHL?  Bill4 | 10/21/09
No DHL Express.  mrlinux | 10/21/09
Hmmm.. Not my experience at all...  i8thecat | 10/21/09
I live in Austin  steeleblue_cactus | 10/21/09
Adrian...  mrlinux | 10/21/09
2nd visit ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
You get what you pay for.  frgough | 10/21/09
RE: You get what you pay for.  slimmac1 | 10/21/09
Yeah for that kind of money he could have an Macbook  mrlinux | 10/21/09
Id Rather Have The Dell  jdbukis@... | 10/22/09
Since Apple went with Intel Processors...  mrlinux | 10/22/09
For $999  Macintoshtoffy | 10/22/09
Dont you mean...  mrlinux | 10/21/09
LOL  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
It was hardly ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
Dell = Crap  itguy08 | 10/21/09
Your Second Mistake...  mrlinux | 10/21/09
3yr warranty  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
Indian support?  bmgoodman | 10/21/09
A Few Issues with the situation...  GoodThings2Life | 10/21/09
U do not even have to take it a part...  mrlinux | 10/21/09
Similar experience  djmik | 10/21/09
RE: A few issues with the situation  bfilipiak@... | 10/23/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  JoseTorr | 10/21/09
Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  Dell-Bill B | 10/21/09
If only  bmgoodman | 10/21/09
clarification, please  Dell-Bill B | 10/21/09
In my case  bmgoodman | 10/21/09
Re: In my case  Dell-Bill B | 10/21/09
Thanks  bmgoodman | 10/21/09
You're most welcome  Dell-Bill B | 10/21/09
nothing to do with confidential information...  jmelnik | 10/21/09
not so sure...  Dell-Bill B | 10/21/09
lowest bidder  jmelnik | 10/21/09
Absolutely  jragosta | 10/22/09
My Dell Hell  samalie | 10/21/09
Ask to speak with a manager or higher tier tech support  NetAdmin1178 | 10/21/09
Wow.. you need to get a clue NetAdmin1178...  i8thecat | 10/21/09
Your right  JasonJD48 | 10/21/09
Previous reply meant for general discussion... (nt)  NetAdmin1178 | 10/21/09
When in South Africa  Nookhoek | 10/21/09
Nice Experience With Apple  WarhavenSC | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  mrlinux | 10/21/09
Outsourced tech support: a great big fail  Auriels_Flame | 10/21/09
Exactly  The Star King | 10/22/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  kitko | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  SystemVoid | 10/21/09
The ONLY way to fix that properly  Nookhoek | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  puffmanxx | 10/21/09
Why repeat yourself?  ThePrairiePrankster | 10/21/09
My thoughts ..  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
You are spot on  wgrimes | 10/21/09
I'd even say hundreds now  JasonJD48 | 10/21/09
What of those of us that don't follow Twitter? (nt)  A Grain of Salt | 10/21/09
The problem is ...  dkawalec | 10/21/09
Now you see why I went to Macs  Ken_z | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  neeraj.k | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  wgrimes | 10/21/09
Adrian the king of whiney attention ho's  Duke E. Love | 10/21/09
You go Girl!!!. er.. I mean kettle.  i8thecat | 10/21/09
Ironic ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
I kick the dog  Duke E. Love | 10/21/09
Not sure what that means, but  JasonJD48 | 10/22/09
Uh  JasonJD48 | 10/21/09
Adrian... Question about the on-site???  i8thecat | 10/21/09
Yep ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/21/09
ok... good to hear, I'll give them another chance then...  i8thecat | 10/21/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  weijoon | 10/21/09
Sell the company  Jolohaga | 10/21/09
Why did you continue with the tech on the phone?  hornerea | 10/22/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  Kasey156 | 10/22/09
They see your config...  Dell-Bill B | 10/22/09
Thank you, Bill  Kasey156 | 10/22/09
Most problems through are idiotic  mrjonno | 10/22/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  ICUR12 | 10/22/09
No  Dell-Bill B | 10/22/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  DAReese | 10/22/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  Super D | 10/22/09
Dell: Little right with tech support  rroberto18 | 10/22/09
dealing with tech support  CaptO | 10/23/09
Struggling with Dell Laptop myself  Merlin500 | 10/23/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  drewitz@... | 10/23/09
Apple vs. Dell  dheady@... | 10/23/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  knudson | 10/23/09
Sounds familiar . . .  twirth5@... | 10/23/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  Michael Dorchick | 10/23/09
RE: Dell: A few examples of what's wrong with your tech support  russtok | 10/23/09

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