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November 12th, 2009

Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:04 am

Categories: Apple, In the news, Marketing, Microsoft

Tags: Apple Mac OS, Apple Macintosh, Operating System, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Yesterday there appeared an interview with a Microsoft group manager who claimed that Microsoft copied the “Mac look and feel in terms of graphics” in Windows 7. This was later denied by Microsoft’s communications manager. So, which is it?

The row erupted over comments made by Microsoft’s partner group manager, Simon Aldous to PCR. In response to the question “Is Windows 7 really a much more agile operating system, in terms of the specific uses it can be moulded to?” Aldous said:

“One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it’s very graphical and easy to use. What we’ve tried to do with Windows 7 – whether it’s traditional format or in a touch format – is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics. We’ve significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it’s built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.” [emphasis added]

Later that day Microsoft’s communication manager Brandon LeBlanc issued a statement which simultaneously dismisses the comments and blasts Aldous for his indiscretion:

An inaccurate quote has been floating around the Internet today about the design origins of Windows 7 and whether its look and feel was “borrowed” from Mac OS X.  Unfortunately this came from a Microsoft employee who was not involved in any aspect of designing Windows 7. I hate to say this about one of our own, but his comments were inaccurate and uninformed. If you’re interested in learning more about the design of Windows 7, I suggest reading this AP story with Julie Larson-Green as well as these WSJ (membership required) and Fast Company articles. And here is one of many blog posts on the E7 blog discussing the design process of Windows 7. [emphasis added]

Now, I’m sure Microsoft would have had no problem at all with Aldous’ comment about Windows 7 being far more stabler that the current Mac platform, but to even hint that Windows 7 is in any way a clone of the Mac OS touches on an area where Microsoft is sensitive. After all, back when Apple introduced Mac OS X 10.4 “Tiger” at WWDC 2004 there were banners hung from the ceiling with the following poke at Microsoft printed on them:

“Redmond, start your photocopiers.”

Personally, unless someone wants to go to court over patent infringement, this whole “who copied who” debate is little more than fanboys howling at the moon. Does it really matter? I don’t think so.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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I currently work with MAC and Windows. I supported Windows for Microsoft for a number of years and I can most definitely say if the O.S. wasn't copied it is a great "knock-off." The interface of Win 7... (Read the rest)
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How do you like this....  pjotr123 | 11/12/09
Yeah ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 11/12/09
Dialog  Jkirk3279 | 11/12/09
I'm a Mac  jeremychappell | 11/12/09
re: I'm a Mac  LakeviewJason | 11/12/09
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Talking about yourself again...nt  transposeIT | 11/12/09
He could at least be a bit more original...  James T. Kirk | 11/12/09
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If you're going to insult someone...  wolf_z | 11/12/09
More click baiting from Adrian...LOL  transposeIT | 11/12/09
Why?  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 11/12/09
Because it's derivative, and yet less capable.  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  Bradish@... | 11/12/09
Thank you  tom@... | 11/12/09
@Bradish  Axsimulate | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  techronin | 11/12/09
who stole?  CelticBrewer | 11/12/09
MS stole of course  MacCanuck | 11/12/09
You got that right *NM*  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
History is a wonderful thing for those that want to revise it.  de-void | 11/12/09
And ...  de-void | 11/12/09
Talk of revisionist history and reaching  MacCanuck | 11/13/09
Revisions  Jkirk3279 | 11/12/09
@CelticBrewer  Axsimulate | 11/12/09
Not stealing...... but NeXT was ahead of its time.....  LazLong | 11/12/09
Better look up IBM's "CUI" concept...  wolf_z | 11/12/09
IF  CelticBrewer | 11/12/09
Apples' Dock pedigree  vikingnyc@... | 11/12/09
Dock != Taskbar  jacarter3 | 11/12/09
Matter of opinion  jdbukis@... | 11/12/09
Instead of opinion, how about some facts?  vulpine@... | 11/12/09
You're kidding right?  jacarter3 | 11/12/09
That's just like MS saying Vista is more stable than OSX...  nix_hed | 11/13/09
OS X counter intuitive?  prof123 | 11/12/09
OS/2  Jkirk3279 | 11/12/09
I attach more concern to things like...MS Patenting sudo  D-T-Schmitz | 11/12/09
The folks at Microsoft are nothing but thieves.  AdventTech67 | 11/12/09
If you didn't just  honeymonster | 11/12/09
That's something I never would have expected.  ye | 11/12/09
They're not patenting SUDO they're patenting UAC  de-void | 11/12/09
Sure, they copied bits of it...  Sleeper Service | 11/12/09
How did they copy OS X?  ye | 11/12/09
Right ON!!!  Bradish@... | 11/12/09
OSX... no where near Windows in Functionality  condelirios | 11/12/09
Wow... what a surprise  MacCanuck | 11/12/09
Yet  bobiroc | 11/12/09
@bobiroc  Axsimulate | 11/12/09
Apple licensing  bobiroc | 11/12/09
Math  Jkirk3279 | 11/12/09
On this we agree. nt  ye | 11/12/09
Yet...  MacCanuck | 11/13/09
What??? Are you caught in a timewarp?  de-void | 11/12/09
No timewarp, just reality  MacCanuck | 11/13/09
So.....?  LazLong | 11/12/09
@condelirios  Axsimulate | 11/12/09
Who would do that?  condelirios | 11/12/09
@condelirios  Axsimulate | 11/12/09
absoultely right- this is maybe the best  unclefixer@... | 11/13/09
Classic left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing  CobraA1 | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  ogmanx@... | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  ogmanx@... | 11/12/09
What does it matter?  NoThomas | 11/12/09
Adrian you truly are a hit monster..  CrashPad | 11/12/09
Most ZDNet bloggers are  Loverock Davidson | 11/12/09
This *entire* debate is useless.  rock06r | 11/12/09
If you are a Microsoft apologist...  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
I think the USPTO needs to modify software 'patents' to...  vulpine@... | 11/12/09
BINGO!  kd5auq | 11/12/09
And a car is a car, right?  prof123 | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  zzjimmai59 | 11/12/09
Make a bad copy, sell it to people who don't care  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
I hate to say this, but...  vulpine@... | 11/12/09
Didn't copy Mac OS...  Tim Patterson | 11/12/09
I doubt it.  CobraA1 | 11/12/09
Hilarious  dfolk2 | 11/12/09
OSes Copying each other  bobiroc | 11/12/09
RE: Mr. Aldous' comment  Userama | 11/12/09
I'm still trying to determine  vikingnyc@... | 11/12/09
no, it copied KDE  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  Loverock Davidson | 11/12/09
Look the MS zealot is here.  AdventTech67 | 11/12/09
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst2@... | 11/12/09
Stupid is as stupid says  whooliebacon | 11/12/09
He had my post removed...  itanalyst2@... | 11/12/09
Pot? Are You Calling Kettle Black?  drprodny | 11/13/09
I have said it many times here in the past  jacarter3 | 11/12/09
Apple never stels-let's see  Michael L Hereid Sr | 11/12/09
What?!? Time Machine is a rip-off of System Restore? You're joking too  jacarter3 | 11/12/09
Widgets  Jkirk3279 | 11/14/09
How young we are here...  jacarter3 | 11/16/09
Sidekick...  Jkirk3279 | 11/18/09
Apple never steals-let's see  Michael L Hereid Sr | 11/12/09
Windows and restore...  prof123 | 11/12/09
Widgets  Jkirk3279 | 11/18/09
MS damage control  MacCanuck | 11/12/09
It's ridiculous to DENY Apple's influence  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
Well of course it's rediculous  oncall | 11/12/09
Reason for XP  bobiroc | 11/12/09
Allchin (heart) Apple  whisperycat | 11/12/09
Uh...  Sleeper Service | 11/12/09
They found their way  MacCanuck | 11/12/09
Windows 7 copied Windows 1.01  AdamzP | 11/12/09
Here is another one...  NoThomas | 11/12/09
Be sure to bring wrath down on poor Simon Alduos  HollywoodDog | 11/12/09
Rebuking the truth and asserting the lie  comp_indiana | 11/12/09
Everybody does.  TripleII | 11/12/09
The iPhone....  condelirios | 11/12/09
Exactly...  TripleII | 11/12/09
::g:: Besides M$FT Bigots like Headrock, Ax & Zealot's HEADS Exploding?  drprodny | 11/14/09
Microsoft doesn't Innovate, they Duplicate  dfl274 | 11/12/09
as does Apple  CrashPad | 11/13/09
Aldous actually has a valid point  HollywoodDog | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  veggiedude | 11/12/09
Maps and spoons  trm1945 | 11/12/09
Its all about Xerox Sparc  rle11wb@... | 11/12/09
Somebody's forgetting their history.  vulpine@... | 11/12/09
True origin of DOS  tom@... | 11/12/09
What was his name  Tim Patterson | 11/12/09
You got it wrong.  Tigertank | 11/12/09
This time, I think they copied more from KDE.  HypnoToad72 | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  nfiertel | 11/12/09
The "brilliance" is temporary.  kd5auq | 11/12/09
The whole argument is silly!  kd5auq | 11/12/09
Everyone copied Cadillac....  LazLong | 11/12/09
Who Stole What First  jabailo1 | 11/12/09
Re: Who stole...............  Disgruntled M$ User | 11/13/09
You're onto something.  Lester Young | 11/13/09
GEOS I thought of that just could not rmember the name  Michael L Hereid Sr | 11/16/09
Time Machine  Jkirk3279 | 11/18/09
Windows 98 no but Vista/Win7 yes  bobiroc | 11/18/09
ALTO!  Bob in Atlanta | 11/12/09
Nope...  condelirios | 11/12/09
No.  msalzberg | 11/13/09
"...little more than fanboys howling at the moon. Does it really matter?...  USTechHead | 11/12/09
first invertebrate?  LazLong | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  wskige001 | 11/12/09
The Apple Blogs will be Hopping  jpr75_z | 11/12/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  pongo2002 | 11/13/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  Lester Young | 11/13/09
You're right, it doesn't matter  jorjitop | 11/13/09
Copied Linux. -COPIED-  sir4taye@... | 11/13/09
Win 7 is a GREAT peacemaker  unclefixer@... | 11/13/09
Does It Matter, Really?  drprodny | 11/13/09
RE: Did Microsoft copy Mac OS for Windows 7? Yes ... uh, wait ... no ...  MSFTAlexT | 11/16/09
Yes it copied  newtech3 | 02/03/10

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