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July 30th, 2007

Why don't Linux distros make legal codecs easier to find?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 7:02 am

Categories: Legal, Linux, My Linux Experience

Tags: Linux, Codec, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

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A few weeks ago I took a look at how Ubuntu 7.04 handled proprietary file formats such as MP3, WMA and QuickTime movies.  Overall the support was good (although I couldn’t get QuickTime 7 movie support working) but it seriously bothered me that I had to resort to downloading and making use of codecs which are, well, to be blunt, illegal to use.

It’s pretty easy to get access to these illegal, or as Linux calls them, “restricted software,” codecs.  To get MP3 support you click on any MP3 file which brings up Totem Movie Player and tries to play the file.  When it fails to play the file the system asks for permission to go off and search for a suitable codec.  After a quick search the appropriate codecs are found.  So far, so good.

Now things become dodgy.  Choosing to install the codec then brings up a message which is stuffed with legal mumbo jumbo that makes me want to talk to a lawyer.  Here’s the message:

Restricted Software
The use of some of the software may be restricted in some countries.  You must verify that one of the following is true:
1. These restrictions do not apply in your country of legal residence.
2. You have permission to use the software (for example, a patent license).
3. You are using this software for research purposes only.

Illegal codecs
Note: Full image gallery available here.

If you’re the kind of person that’s happy to indulge in file swapping or installing pirate software, this kind of warning is not going to mean anything, but if you try your best to stay on the right side of the law (no matter whether you agree with the law or not), this is likely to stop you in your tracks.

But there is an alternative.  There are legal codecs available for purchase as long as you know where to look for them.  Fluendo has a fully legal codec pack available for purchase which costs €28 (around $40).  This pack gives you GStreamer plugins for the following:

  • Windows Media Audio Decoder
  • Windows Media Video Decoder
  • Windows Media ASF Demuxer
  • Windows Media MMS Networking
  • MPEG2 Video Decoder
  • MPEG4 Video Decoder
  • MPEG2 Program Stream and Transport Stream demuxer
  • MPEG4 ISO Demuxer
  • MP3 Audio Decoder
  • AC3 Audio Decoder

If you don’t want the entire codec bundle, you can buy them separately. 

OK, so there’s perfectly legal codecs available for Linux - so why am I being offered illegal codecs?  Why don’t I just get a link to the Fluendo website and told that if support for certain file formats if going to cost me?  Failing that, what’s wrong with adding a few words to the legal mumbo jumbo dialog box about the paid for codecs?  It would be handy for people to have a $40 escape route to avoid having to wade through the legalese.

I know what some of you are going to say - these codecs are legal in some countries so why shouldn’t they be offered?  Yes, fine, good point.  But in that case make more information available so that individuals have access to the information they need to come to an informed decision. As it stands, the current situation just seems like a convenient way to make Linux seem like a completely free solution and offload the legal burden onto the end user.

The bottom line is that no matter how the Free Software Foundation  try to spin it, some things will never be free.

Thoughts?

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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They are keeping people from looking for other options
By allowing people to use a restrictive format without telling them the drawbacks of doing so, the Linux distros are keeping people from looking for other options, which is exactly the opposite to what I believe they should be doing: promoting the use free software.... (Read the rest)
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Also hinders desktop adoption...  Mike Cox | 07/30/07
Mike, Mike ---  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/30/07
is it the medicine or you've change your employer?  Linux Geek | 07/30/07
who are you and where have you hidden Mike!!??  mdsmedia | 07/30/07
Twice in a week?  shallow_diver | 07/31/07
Why doesn't Windows do the same  voska | 07/30/07
MS makes it easy in fact...  BFD | 07/30/07
Not for me  voska | 07/30/07
Well gee...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
Absolutely brilliant......  LazLong | 07/30/07
Nice dodge, but you didn't even think  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
Given your arguments...  jasonp@... | 07/31/07
I know No_Ax couldn't have just said that...  devlin_X | 08/01/07
Why pay  DarthRidiculous | 07/30/07
Avoid Automatix: it messes up the installation  pjotr123 | 07/30/07
Bull  DarthRidiculous | 07/30/07
not bull  pjotr123 | 07/31/07
Automatix  bobsherrill@... | 08/08/07
Why pay...  devlin_X | 08/01/07
Open source is the solution, not the problem. Generally , if it is a free  DonnieBoy | 07/30/07
Don't know...  BFD | 07/30/07
who do you thinks owns  tombalablomba | 07/30/07
But, the MS codecs are not in any way helpful. They just increase the  DonnieBoy | 07/30/07
And what YOU use is YOUR choice.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
Consumers only want to choose to watch a video, they could care less about  DonnieBoy | 08/01/07
and DonnieBoy apple does not have there own codecs  SO.CAL Guy | 07/31/07
Apple codecs are also not very helpful for consumers.  DonnieBoy | 08/01/07
The codecs used by Apple...  GeoNorth | 08/09/07
Of Course it's Microsoft's fault  John Zern | 07/30/07
In this case, introducing codecs that are not any better than the free and  DonnieBoy | 07/30/07
But the truth is, WMV IS BETTER.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
Actually  GeoNorth | 08/09/07
Translation, Microsft should not improve anything  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
Well, no reason that MS can not cooperate on free and open standards.  DonnieBoy | 07/30/07
Clue for you, MS is NOT a non-profit.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
hmmm, question...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/30/07
Care to put it to the test?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
wow, and that makes you the expert?  Monkey_MCSE | 07/31/07
Chameleon  goxk@... | 07/31/07
They, just like FSF  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
And if  goxk@... | 07/31/07
I suspect some of both.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
You have misunderstood me  goxk@... | 07/31/07
It isn't MS's doing. It is the wishes of the content holders.  osreinstall | 07/30/07
Maybe...  GeoNorth | 08/09/07
Ilegal in one country  Michael Kelly | 07/30/07
Should be "Illegal", darn that small type (nt)  Michael Kelly | 07/30/07
What constitutes research purposes?  Charlen595@... | 08/07/07
They do!  Mace Moneta | 07/30/07
Wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
Not Illegal... Just unlicensed....  LazLong | 07/30/07
Dear clueless,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
not always  itsgregman | 07/30/07
Yeah, and Cinepak  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
I totally agree ...  George Mitchell | 07/30/07
The dirty "secret" no one will speak.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
RE: The dirty "secret" no one will speak  deaf_e_kate | 07/30/07
Gee, how did I know someone would start calling names?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/30/07
walks like a...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/30/07
Read your own initial post and you will see WHO started the name calling ..  George Mitchell | 07/30/07
Truth hurts huh!  tonymcs@... | 07/30/07
Well then ...  George Mitchell | 07/30/07
I'd rather be a cheapskate  Ole Man | 07/30/07
JERK  Patanjali | 07/30/07
Off! NT  Ole Man | 08/01/07
thats funny...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/31/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/31/07
oh I see...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/31/07
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Clueless again  henklaak | 07/30/07
Whinge whinge whinge. use Linspire/Xandros etc  deaf_e_kate | 07/30/07
Where does it say these are legal and the license paid?  doug@... | 07/30/07
Right here:  George Mitchell | 07/30/07
They sure hid it. Who would think to look under product  doug@... | 07/31/07
40 dollars is too much  christopher@... | 07/31/07
$40.00 too much?  Linux User 147560 | 07/31/07
The Windows OS OEM is $120 because ...  George Mitchell | 07/31/07
If I had known that...  john.lemme@... | 07/31/07
Those aren't "codecs"  techboy_z | 07/31/07
Linspire Linux Does  Skyhawk_z | 07/31/07
upgrade  trenthall | 08/07/07
My take on the whys/why nots  deserthowler | 07/31/07
What codecs are illegal, and why  Eight_Quarter_Bit | 07/31/07
legalities, Not all courts agree.  Update victim | 07/31/07
How patents & copyrights promote invention & the arts  Dr_Zinj | 08/01/07
Companies and Coporations do not make Laws.  LazLong | 07/31/07
Agreed, but  Update victim | 07/31/07
The problem comes from license incompatibility  Mitch 74 | 08/01/07
Fair Use Concept  mlamelas | 08/07/07
Codecs in Linux  trenthall | 08/07/07
Pay for decoder?  emenau | 08/07/07
Do we NEED all these codecs?  Bob.Kerns | 08/07/07
RE: Why don't Linux distros make legal codecs easier to find?  druid627@... | 10/08/08
countries that are subjected to a U.S. Government embargo  arielenter | 09/08/09
The use of a Linux distro instead of a pirated Windows  arielenter | 09/08/09
what would happen if MS Windows started doing the same thing  arielenter | 09/08/09
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