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August 20th, 2007

"Baked-in" DRM - Yet another reason for people to hate Microsoft

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 2:05 am

Categories: DRM, Hardware, Industry, Microsoft, Software, Vista

Tags: Digital-rights Management, Microsoft Corp., Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

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Newsflash – There’s a growing segment of computer users that hate Microsoft. “Baked-in” DRM is giving more users a reason to hate Microsoft.

Over the weekend I spent some time catching up on the great Gutmann Vista DRM debate (in the red corner we have Peter Gutmann, while in the blue corner we have George Ou and Ed Bott – if you want the background to this story follow these links, but not before you’ve put a If you’re firmly opposed to DRM then paying Microsoft to add it to your software is a bit like an animal lover finding out that they’ve paid to have a baby seal clubbed on their behalfpot of coffee on, drunk it and then brewed a second one). One thing that’s become clear to me from the comments left by readers in the TalkBack section of these posts is that there’s a growing dislike of DRM, in particular DRM that’s embedded into operating systems, especially DRM built into Windows (it appears that Apple users are harder to work up into a frenzy about DRM).

Think what you want of HDCP DRM and ICT flags, this technology is here and it’s here to stay (for the time being at any rate). The issue doesn’t seem to be that the technology exists (people who feel strongly opposed to it can choose to avoid it); the issue is that Microsoft has embedded this technology into Windows Vista, thus seemingly giving it the stamp of approval. Not only that, but when people look at the bottom line price that they are expected to pay for Vista, they begin to wonder how much of that cost comes down to support for DRM in one form or another. If you’re firmly opposed to DRM then paying Microsoft to add it to your software is a bit like an animal lover finding out that they’ve paid to have a baby seal clubbed on their behalf.

I’m no fan of DRM (I buy DVDs and audio books from Audible.com but beyond that I try to limit my exposure to DRM thanks to being bitten in the butt by it a few times in the past), but I also recognize that it offers content providers both with new revenues streams and improved ways to enforce copyright. DRM also allows companies to “rent” digital content, thus making access t the content cheaper. My issue with DRM isn’t that it’s used, it’s that content providers don’t make DRM limitations clear to customers. But those are my views, and these views don’t apply to others. For some, buying and using an operating system that incorporates DRM is something that they don’t want to do. The bundling of DRM with Windows is seen as Microsoft giving content providers, MPAA, RIAA, the government, the man (delete as appropriate) far too much power and is paving the way for heavily DRMed content to become the norm.

Personally, I think that Microsoft needs to be careful because it is increasingly being seen as a pro-DRM company. While it’s safe to say that for many DRM is a non-issue (most don’t see it, and of those that do, many don’t care about it), for a growing segment of users (especially power users), DRM is being seen as a way for big business to have increasing control over how PCs are being used. People who want to avoid this level of control are shunning Windows for open source platforms.

So why has Microsoft embedded DRM such as HDCP into Windows and not offered it as a separate download or plug-in? The plain and simple truth is that this kind of DRM is too complex to be supported through a separate download. The days of copyright enforcement being just a few words flashed up at the beginning of a movie are numbered, copyright enforcement mechanisms are not only being embedded into the content, but deeply into the hardware and software that make up new PCs. About the only way you can avoid exposure to it is to stick with old hardware and software. Open source only means that your software can be free of the stuff.

Thoughts?

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yes you are
because there is a barrier to commerce and trade that restricts the choices available in your 10 mile radius compared to if the wall was not there at all.

Actually DRM is a prison and many Appl... (Read the rest)
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M$-DRM did not drive me off windows ...  bportlock | 08/20/07
At least you're blaming the right people.  Anton Philidor | 08/20/07
Please  Richard Flude | 08/20/07
Things that make me go "Hmmm"  zkiwi | 08/21/07
Because of Congressional interest, ...  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
Congressional Interest.... because of.....  Ole Man | 08/21/07
Enthusiastic, yes.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
These people simply look for a reason  mdemuth | 08/20/07
I have lots of reasons to dislike MS  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
They are not promoting DRM.  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
I do seem to recall...  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
I also remember Linus saying....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
That's different than promoting it...  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
They have been promoting DRM for years  Resuna | 08/20/07
Re  goxk@... | 08/20/07
DRM and why Apple users are more mellow about it  frgough | 08/20/07
Philosophical answer  bportlock | 08/20/07
Ignoring the premise  frgough | 08/20/07
You forget the power of the RDF  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Well I guess you are a prisoner and dont even know it...  mrOSX | 09/17/07
A prison is a prison.  TripleII | 08/20/07
Sigh  frgough | 08/20/07
Name call all you want, it is no never mind to me.  TripleII | 08/20/07
You don't understand  laman | 08/20/07
He who will relinquish his freedom  Ole Man | 08/21/07
Philosophicaly: Yes  GuidingLight | 08/20/07
It's not just where I decide to travel  gardoglee | 08/20/07
yes you are  max_wedge | 07/21/09
Does anyone really believe ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
The lack of thought is incredible  NonZealot | 08/20/07
USB Mass Storage all the way  TripleII | 08/20/07
True that my friend  DOOMhasCome | 08/20/07
yes it is  Monkeypox | 09/17/07
You said that with a straight face?  TripleII | 08/20/07
No, ShadeTree is right  NonZealot | 08/20/07
No I caught the difference  TripleII | 08/20/07
No need to eat the costs  NonZealot | 08/20/07
To further bolster your case that...  msalzberg | 08/20/07
Way off topic  TripleII | 08/20/07
The price of Vista is roughly equal to the ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Talking to a stump  Ole Man | 08/21/07
The question has always been...  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
Please post a link  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Nividia is having trouble.  TripleII | 08/20/07
You can't say it is the problem either!  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
You don't do development do you?  TripleII | 08/20/07
I have a ...  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
See there?........ Told you!  Ole Man | 08/21/07
You answered a question that wasn't asked  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Maybe there's another explaination  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
Duh!!!!  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Repeat: It was MS that decided to break backwards compatibility  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
Weak arguement  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
FORGET TREE & ZEALOT  johnpall@... | 08/21/07
FORGET TREE & ZEALOT (MISTAKE)  johnpall@... | 08/21/07
The majority of the 5.41% worldwide marketshare ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
No, I deserve credit where credit is due  TripleII | 08/20/07
What you are attributing to Vista ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
It's about the whole ecosystem.  TripleII | 08/20/07
Until you can show a price difference for a ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Sorry ShadeTree  goxk@... | 08/20/07
Not at all  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
I don't have to  goxk@... | 08/21/07
I believe the cost would have been lower...  mrlinux | 08/20/07
Forgot to add one other thing  mrlinux | 08/20/07
Cards with more features cost more?  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Well your are a well known ....  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
Re: Does anyone really believe ....  none none | 08/20/07
Show me a difference in cost between a non-compliant ....  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Re: Show me a difference in cost between a non-compliant ....  none none | 08/21/07
??  Sheeva | 08/21/07
Bogus claim  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
I've noticed that...  rapson | 08/21/07
Also your claim of personal content being crippled ....  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
Apple zealots and the irony of their anti-DRM stance  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Spinning like a top  frgough | 08/20/07
And yet I can use my iPod..  msalzberg | 08/20/07
Although  Michael Kelly | 08/20/07
Irrelevant.  msalzberg | 08/20/07
Issues with OSX are not related to the TPM  mrlinux | 08/20/07
Certain people disagree with you  NonZealot | 08/20/07
Wrong!  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
You're wrong.  Resuna | 08/20/07
Nope!  NonZealot | 08/20/07
I would trust Apple, Fool me once shame on me fool me  ralphrides | 08/23/07
You covered most everything.  TripleII | 08/20/07
Point/Counterpoint  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Some for food for discussion.  TripleII | 08/20/07
Gutman made some valid techical points  Old Timer 8080 | 08/20/07
Microsoft, Apple, HD DVD, Blu-ray have to get licensed  georgeou | 08/20/07
I already did and do bark up that tree  TripleII | 08/20/07
Then the MPAA would have told MS to stuff it  georgeou | 08/20/07
Then they would have  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
That is the point of Microsoft's trusted path ...  ShadeTree | 08/20/07
Just what I always wanted  John L. Ries | 08/20/07
You don't.  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
Not at all  John L. Ries | 08/21/07
Marketshare doesn't matter to me...  John L. Ries | 08/21/07
Please Explain..George...  LazLong | 08/21/07
Ridiculous.  DOOMhasCome | 08/20/07
Where did you get the DRM free copy of Vista?  TripleII | 08/20/07
Ironic in an almost amusing way  TtfnJohn | 08/20/07
Don't leave out the part where I proved it doesn't cost more money or watts  georgeou | 08/20/07
You proved diddly-squat!  Ole Man | 08/21/07
Do you REALLY think anyone would do this?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/20/07
Why didnt they create the Media Center version..  mrlinux | 08/20/07
Of course...  keepu | 08/20/07
No money from a stone...  becksdark | 08/20/07
Any better ideas for protecting content?  otaddy | 08/20/07
Add HARDWARE DRM to the title..  Old Timer 8080 | 08/20/07
and you ....  ShadeTree | 08/21/07
A comment or 2...  Freebird54 | 08/20/07
Microsoft knows what is best for you...  Mike Cox | 08/20/07
Welcome back! 8.0 (nt)  TripleII | 08/20/07
I give it an 8.5 . . .  JLHenry | 08/20/07
8.0 - Obsequiousness suits you!  Mercutio_Viz | 08/20/07
your post is OK  A.Lizard | 09/17/07
this is why ... it's a no-no to bake...  ruped24 | 08/20/07

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