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August 25th, 2007

Microsoft responds to Vista network performance issue

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 2:36 am

Categories: Microsoft, Vista

Tags: Multimedia, Network, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., Network Performance, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

For background to this issue read previous posts: Post 1 | Post 2 | Post 3.

I have received a response to the Vista network performance issue from Microsoft.  Here are some points of interest:

  • “We have been looking into this problem and are working on a doc that will go into the technical details of what we have found.”
  • “Please note that some of what we are seeing is expected behavior, and some of it is not.  In certain circumstances Windows Vista will trade off network performance in order to improve multimedia playback.  This is by design.”
  • “The connection between media playback and networking is not immediately obvious.  But as you know, the drivers involved in both activities run at extremely high priority.  As a result, the network driver can cause media playback to degrade.  This shows up to the user as things like popping and crackling during audio playback.  Users generally hate this, hence the trade off.”
  • “In most cases the user does not notice the impact of this as the decrease in network performance is slight.  Of course some users, especially ones on Gigabit based networks, are seeing a much greater decrease than is expected and that is clearly a problem that we need to address.”
  • “Two other things to note.  First, we have not seen any cases where a users internet performance would be degraded, in our tests this issue only shows up with local network operations.” 
  • “Second, this trade-off scheme only kicks in on the receive side.  Transmit is not affected.”

I’ve been doing some more research into this and I’m coming to the conclusion that the issue is related somehow to Multimedia Class Scheduler service (MMCSS).  This is a service that makes sure that multimedia applications have prioritized access to CPU resources.  I can’t prove my theory because killing MMCSS also disables Windows audio.

As more information is made available, I’ll keep you in the loop.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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RE: Microsoft responds to Vista network performance issue
This is idiotic, it's obvious noone at microsoft uses torrents, basically vista is worthless to download torrents or high speed streaming. It's really infuriating that xp does these things with zero problem, but vista is a complete f up.... (Read the rest)
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bogus  GillianSeed | 08/25/07
Bafflespeak  TripleII | 08/25/07
Double bogus  jinko | 08/26/07
Problem looking for a solution  Tin Man | 09/22/07
I can't believe we have to put up with this in the era of dual cores  georgeou | 08/25/07
See George criticizes microsoft!  otaddy | 08/25/07
Of course he does  John L. Ries | 08/25/07
Be reasonable John  rtk | 08/26/07
It's definitely annoying and it's probably not a show stopper  georgeou | 08/26/07
Not the first time  jinko | 08/26/07
ignoring the obvious  rtk | 08/26/07
Given my own experience with Vista  John L. Ries | 08/27/07
Isn't it odd that XP doesn't have this problem?  WiredGuy | 08/25/07
No it doesn't need more horse power to play audio/video  georgeou | 08/25/07
amen  ronjeremy_69@... | 08/25/07
Don't even need that much power  John L. Ries | 08/25/07
...or even on hyperthreaded chips  jinko | 08/26/07
Is this the same George...  Burana | 08/28/07
I'm still standing by my theory  frgough | 08/25/07
The network driver stack is all new in Vista.  georgeou | 08/25/07
"I could hear conversations from all ten videos smoothly"  Ole Man | 08/25/07
He said "hear', not "follow" the conversations (nt)  rtk | 08/26/07
You know the saying, don't feed the troll  georgeou | 08/26/07
Were you running a Gigbit  Freebird54 | 08/28/07
Unintended consequence  Jason Etheridge | 08/25/07
That doesn't make sense  t_mohajir | 08/25/07
Expanding further...  TripleII | 08/25/07
Can't be true...  jinko | 08/26/07
Pure speculation  Freebird54 | 08/28/07
WOW! Really?  Tim Patterson | 08/25/07
Another prime example  Ole Man | 08/25/07
it's hardly a prime example  rtk | 08/26/07
people have been complaining about the network since day1  GillianSeed | 08/26/07
The purpose of the Beta  Bozzer | 08/26/07
Horsehockey!  Wolfie2K3 | 08/27/07
A sub-prime example maybe?  Ole Man | 08/26/07
The left hand doesn't know what teh right hand does...  Bodincus | 08/26/07
Good post, but your conclusions are far reaching  georgeou | 08/26/07
Good point  dilbert@... | 08/28/07
Here's the fix...  Bodincus | 08/26/07
Sounds credible  georgeou | 08/26/07
Sounds incredible...  jinko | 08/26/07
You'd have to test that theory running a game  georgeou | 08/26/07
Agnostic non-believers...  Bodincus | 08/27/07
Stunning stupidity///  jinko | 08/27/07
How much CPU time do you  devlin_X | 08/26/07
I put that conspiracy theory to sleep long ago  georgeou | 08/26/07
No conspiracy, just sheer stupidity  Bodincus | 08/27/07
Only one instance of Windows Media player allowed  georgeou | 08/27/07
"Business Grade OS"  Bob.Kerns | 09/06/07
Wow talk about making a judgement!  devlin_X | 08/27/07
See this official explaination  georgeou | 08/27/07
Thanks George, great article  NonZealot | 08/27/07
Here's an Idea  Harry Bardal | 08/26/07
Who is going to reimburse this guy?  NonZealot | 08/26/07
Well said and quite true!  jacarter3 | 08/28/07
In the age of dual and quad core processors?  kraterz | 08/26/07
I can play a HD-TV ep + tranfer @ 70% network efficiency  Shinsengumi | 08/27/07
Priority Inversion?  rgammans | 08/27/07
is this somehow related to slow file copy issue  bicard | 08/27/07
Mark Russinovich has detailed explanation ...  edwinlie@... | 08/27/07
Thank you for truely making a good logical complaint about Vista.  Solid Jedi Knight | 09/02/07
Major Bogus  kgrady@... | 09/06/07
Performance Reset  Dataland | 11/28/07
RE: Microsoft responds to Vista network performance issue  lrdcemb@... | 06/13/08

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