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September 13th, 2007

Confirmation of stealth Windows Update

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 3:46 am

Categories: In the news, Microsoft, Stealth Update

Tags: Microsoft Windows Update, Information Technology, Update, Stealth, Microsoft Windows, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

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I can now confirm that the stealth Windows Update that I blogged about yesterday actually exists - because I’ve detected its presence on a machine at the PC Doc HQ.

At the PC Doc HQ we have several systems set not to update automatically. This is so that they are kept at a specific patch level for testing duties. Many of these systems are virtual machines but some are physical. When I heard about this stealth update I decided to take a look at one of these systems that don’t update automatically (it was set to download and notify) - and within seconds I found what I was looking for.

[UPDATED - Just to clarify, I can confirm that this stealth update was applied to systems where Windows Update was set to "Download updates but let me choose whether to install them" and "for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them" but not on systems set to "Never check for updates."] 

Which files are updated depends on the OS you are running. The updated files on Vista are:

  • wuapi.dll
  • wuapp.exe
  • wuauclt.exe
  • wuaueng.dll
  • wucltux.dll
  • wudriver.dll
  • wups.dll
  • wups2.dll
  • wuwebv.dll

And on XP SP2:

  • cdm.dll
  • wuapi.dll
  • wuauclt.exe
  • wuaucpl.cpl
  • wuaueng.dll
  • wucltui.dll
  • wups.dll
  • wups2.dll
  • wuweb.dll

The test system was running Windows XP SP2. Reports and rumors suggest that this update was being pushed out on or around the 24th of August so I fired up Event Viewer and scrolled down to this date … and here’s what I found:

Here’s the entry showing the update kicking off.

windowsstealthupdate_1_sm.jpg

Update completed successfully - but not the lack of information regarding the update.

windowsstealthupdate_2_sm.jpg

Here’s one of the updated files.

windowsstealthupdate_3_sm.jpg

These updates without notification is a slippery slope. I just don’t like the idea of having updates foisted upon systems without being aware that they are coming in and having the option to postpone them. Why? Simple. IT’S MY PC!!! If a user chooses not to have updates installed automatically, Microsoft needs to respect this decision. Period. If this is not possible, notifications should be made after the update has been installed clearly identifying the updates, describing what it does and giving users a way to roll back the system if they want to.

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strange post  Kungfoofighterx | 09/14/07
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RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  iacobus | 09/13/07
Disabling the Service  rick.agolia@... | 09/13/07
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An Analogy  nova81426 | 09/13/07
So you contacted MS and they said what?  devils_advocate | 09/13/07
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keeping out stealth ablities...  devlin_X | 09/13/07
keeping out stealth ablities  MRR045 | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  sm@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  coachgeorge | 09/13/07
What is going on with ZD Net??  coachgeorge | 09/13/07
One of these day i hoppe that  Quebec-french | 09/13/07
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Good question, because if it does  bka1959 | 09/13/07
vector for attack  grgcro@... | 09/13/07
Thank you!  LilBambi_z | 09/13/07
I own you  flotsam70 | 09/13/07
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That's about the only way  wellsoul2@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  CCBluebird | 09/13/07
This is the point  rolf.ernst@... | 09/13/07
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RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  cne@... | 09/13/07
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It doesn't matter what the EULA says.  Dr_Zinj | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  jon.bjerke@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Fred.Weasley88@... | 09/13/07
The issue is the timing of an update  Deanbar | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  mike.murphy@... | 09/13/07
Updates Done With Update Service OFF  NameRedacted | 09/13/07
I think he means turning off the updates service in services.msc  D. W. Bierbaum | 09/13/07
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you know if the bomb was made by microsoft  linuxoverwindows | 09/13/07
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nah  xuniL_z | 09/14/07
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At the very best this is stupid and at worst criminal.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/13/07
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yeah...  linuxoverwindows | 09/13/07
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The State  fromthehip | 09/13/07
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Lobby.  Media-Ted@... | 09/13/07
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Another reason to install a 3rd party firwall.  AZson | 09/13/07
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EULA Legality Issue  ceh4702 | 09/13/07
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2cjcantwell  antidotcb2 | 09/13/07
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Nothing.  xuniL_z | 09/13/07
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sorry pc-bsd.org  Quebec-french | 09/14/07
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Devil's Advocate  MarkHarrison | 09/13/07
I voted right  TripleII | 09/13/07
i see your point...  Monkey_MCSE | 09/13/07
I agree  TripleII | 09/13/07
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RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  kgg1@... | 09/13/07
In any way  antidotcb2 | 09/13/07
MS Installs Spyware ?  wwwsupport | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  thx-1138_@... | 09/13/07
Tempest in a Teapot  bmgoodman | 09/13/07
"is this story as important as "...  Media-Ted@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  treks1@... | 09/13/07
And this surprises you how?  erikmidtskogen | 09/13/07
Leave my clients PCs alone  soates@... | 09/13/07
Reality  gt90v12 | 09/13/07
But we're developers  erikmidtskogen | 09/13/07
Huh?  erikmidtskogen | 09/13/07
hmmm...  linuxoverwindows | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  brandie.anderson@... | 09/13/07
correction  brandie.anderson@... | 09/13/07
small typo  trophygeek | 09/13/07
Needed  mikeholli | 09/13/07
Apple no saints  whcressall@... | 09/13/07
I have  frgough | 09/13/07
Update killed Net Adapter  joe_volleyguy@... | 09/13/07
two views of same coin  wolf421@... | 09/13/07
Why give us an option if we don't really have one?  Randalllind | 09/13/07
So what did it do to the update service?  Bill Timmins | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  v10charlie@... | 09/13/07
All the more reason!  jestewart1 | 09/13/07
LoL Jestewart  mikeholli | 09/13/07
Don't Reload Vista  mikeholli | 09/13/07
How come mine didn't update???????????  erm@... | 09/13/07
And one more thing....  erm@... | 09/13/07
Don't be smug  mikeholli | 09/13/07
wouldn't it be in the event log,  erm@... | 09/13/07
Mine 2 XP Machines did not update...either  socialism=nowhere | 09/13/07
what's your version of  erm@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Franciscus101 | 09/13/07
Your PC and the slippery slope  frgough | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  gmureddu@... | 09/13/07
How about.....  rem@... | 09/13/07
Just yet another feather in the hat for Linux!  caldeb@... | 09/13/07
Cant you just stop the service from running altogether in c.management?  pcguy777 | 09/13/07
yes you can but you have to download the updates you want  SO.CAL Guy | 09/13/07
Get it elsewhere?  TokyoPete | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Harvey the Rabbit | 09/13/07
Not satisfied with VISTA  vamsi.duvvuri@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  dustybones22@... | 09/13/07
stealth windows update???? wink  maxicool25@... | 09/13/07
To think my comments two weeks ago were deleted...  Media-Ted@... | 09/13/07
Probably deserved...  socialism=nowhere | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  richard@... | 09/13/07
Welcome to M$-Omni...  Media-Ted@... | 09/13/07
It was to fix a major Windows Update bug  Ambivi | 09/13/07
PS: Did you read the link I posted yesterday?  Ambivi | 09/13/07
how does it hog your resources  erm@... | 09/13/07
It will hog resourses even if you update manually using the website  Ambivi | 09/13/07
I'm using XPsp2 on like 200 pc's  erm@... | 09/13/07
It's for the FBI.  zd337 | 09/13/07
Person of interest  jdriddle | 09/13/07
Hush!!!!!  mikeholli | 09/13/07
EULA needs to be destroyed!  jdriddle | 09/13/07
Stealth update - Another issue...  evcox | 09/13/07
Nothing new!  Ole Man | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  ronson4@... | 09/13/07
Stealth Windows  klr1844@... | 09/13/07
This is why I keep trying different Linux distros!  bka1959 | 09/13/07
Whinge whinge whinge - what you going to do about it?  deaf_e_kate | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  andrewstorrie926@... | 09/13/07
Monopolies can do whatever they want!  robert.johnson | 09/13/07
Notify BEOFRE not AFTER. 3 Strikes and you are OUT.  Emilio_z | 09/13/07
3 Strikes, your right!!  sfaid | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  vnowlin@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  rhomp2002@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  thurmanbosgood@... | 09/13/07
I am EXEMPT from MS' EULA!  kd5auq | 09/13/07
Actually,  alaniane@... | 09/13/07
The answer is...  AMD_GUY | 09/13/07
... amen but Microsoft's EULA opens it to Federal Litigation too..  TSGlassey | 09/13/07
big bomb  becabill@... | 09/13/07
Oh no they don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  chaz15 | 09/13/07
Not so diff....  a1pc@... | 09/13/07
Good one!!!  Ole Man | 09/16/07
They created a server side app  shadowriath | 09/13/07
Wrong, but still a bit of a catch-22  laura.b | 09/13/07
Would you just listen to the MS Shill here at work .  Intellihence | 09/13/07
How dare they disagree with the slashmob!  justwait | 09/13/07
You have to read it all  laura.b | 09/14/07
Not really a big deal  Leria | 09/13/07
Very True  Steve Mavronis | 09/14/07
those services that were updated are for Microsoft's Windows Update  Ole Man | 09/16/07
Serious Question, will anything happen  TripleII | 09/13/07
What about WSUS?  Steve Goldman | 09/13/07
Windows Update updated itself. Big Deal.  rramirez@... | 09/13/07
Actually a stupid response to the story  TripleII | 09/13/07
And to eliminate the obtuse tangent  TripleII | 09/13/07
Idiot!! Do you not understand the attack vector?  techboy_z | 09/13/07
WU Files "Allowed" - No Big Deal  Steve Mavronis | 09/14/07
Problem with that  rhomp2002@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  fordfamily8@... | 09/13/07
I ONly got this when I updated Manually.  xuniL_z | 09/13/07
That explains one-way firewall....  techboy_z | 09/13/07
IT COULD BE THE MICROSOFT EULA  BALTHOR | 09/13/07
What else is Microsoft doing without our knowledge  kimmy707 | 09/13/07
If this possible how do we not know information is going out.  watchxthexflames@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  flotsam70 | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  markw53 | 09/13/07
Stealth Windows  markw53 | 09/13/07
Is it realy your O/S?  SCKITZ@... | 09/13/07
Lots of Software does the same thing.  wellsoul2@... | 09/13/07
Funny thing is,,,,,,,,,,  Ole Man | 09/16/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  c_riel@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Linux User 147560 | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  jfp | 09/13/07
Blocking Windows  tomam | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Gazza1 | 09/13/07
Good or evil? How will Microsoft use the EULA?  cycle49 | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  glass9350@... | 09/13/07
Might wanna get your nose checked.  flotsam70 | 09/13/07
Har-de-har-har-har!  Ole Man | 09/18/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  glass9350@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  torroid88@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  jlb@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  ivo_z | 09/13/07
EULA illegal?  eddunnpe@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  jackrosenboom | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  harper@... | 09/13/07
Huh?  harper@... | 09/13/07
If you don't want updates...  Technogeez | 09/13/07
Two words  pgf_666@... | 09/13/07
The Majority of Us Who Hate Microsoft Keep Buying  zdnet@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  wjg59@... | 09/13/07
ROTFLMAO , bunch of MS losers .  Intellihence | 09/13/07
M$ & corporate power  mauricegiffin@... | 09/13/07
A good motivator to jump into Linux  desertcities@... | 09/13/07
Totally misleading  jlongholm | 09/13/07
scary  initsinfacy | 09/13/07
Policy Publicity  melekali | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  may11943@... | 09/13/07
No deception  e2001@... | 09/13/07
Which is the fundemental  Linux User 147560 | 09/13/07
You don't own your OS.  xuniL_z | 09/13/07
I also don't own the rights to the songs on my MP3 player but . . .  rwilson@... | 09/13/07
Good point  TripleII | 09/13/07
Yes, but that is just a different approach...a model if you will  xuniL_z | 09/14/07
I own it more than you own yours  Linux User 147560 | 09/14/07
Yes and I'm sure if  xuniL_z | 09/14/07
Then you are lucky  Linux User 147560 | 09/14/07
Then you are lucky (correction)  Linux User 147560 | 09/14/07
wga huh? I thought that if.....  xuniL_z | 09/14/07
Hey look!  Linux User 147560 | 09/15/07
I'm planning on  xuniL_z | 09/15/07
Unlike you guys  Crestview | 09/13/07
Oh don't worry.....90% of the people posting here  xuniL_z | 09/13/07
Umm because I don't have Google software installed...  Linux User 147560 | 09/13/07
As Triplell said  xuniL_z | 09/14/07
Whether I have it on or off  Linux User 147560 | 09/14/07
I know but it's still just the matter  xuniL_z | 09/15/07
That's a problem  TripleII | 09/13/07
Eula and MS  On Site PC | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  AnonymousBugMeNotUser | 09/13/07
Microsoft is OUT OF CONTROL! shocked  TechExec2 | 09/13/07
ESCAPE[/] from Microsoft Tyranny  TechExec2 | 09/14/07
Need an alternative to Microsoft  sukhen | 09/13/07
Couple of ideas  TripleII | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  conceptual | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  The Ash Man | 09/13/07
When push comes to shove  dumpster001@... | 09/13/07
RE: When push comes to shove  The Ash Man | 09/24/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  PeterPac | 09/13/07
Thanks  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
MS Screwed up here.  notsofast | 09/13/07
Oh yeah?  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
Not so  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
Its hard to ...  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
What OS  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
It's spelled out here...  Rick_K | 09/13/07
I'm so glad I run Ubuntu and CentOS.  kraterz | 09/13/07
Ubuntu  swynens | 09/14/07
Yes ubuntu runs windows apps.  kraterz | 09/15/07
Windows Apps  swynens | 09/17/07
Either could initiate the phone tagging  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
Not the farm  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
Well, I just figured out what  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
Not agreeing to the EULA  jongunn@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Warinpiece | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  HYM | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  stewinfo@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  bilou5404@... | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Michael Horowitz | 09/13/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  andries.spies@... | 09/13/07
Its time for a 3rd Party alternative in the OS wars.  Solid Jedi Knight | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  vertdriver@... | 09/14/07
this new is pure FUD because it's not hidden  qmlscycrajg | 09/14/07
this news is pure FUD because it's not hidden  qmlscycrajg | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  edgrace02@... | 09/14/07
Overseas markets...  jasonp@... | 09/14/07
What a crock  tmac3931@... | 09/14/07
Download and notify...  jasonp@... | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  jimfishes | 09/14/07
Based on your poll numbers...  JonathonDoe | 09/14/07
Windows belong to MS not YOU.  Brian G | 09/14/07
Windows belong to MS not YOU  sdc100 | 09/14/07
RIghts!RIghts!RIghts!RIghts!RIghts!  Brian G | 09/14/07
A minor (but meaningful) refinement.  joe.h.justice@... | 09/14/07
Good luck, Joe!  Ole Man | 09/17/07
WGA Hackers backdoor  egg61@... | 09/14/07
Well...  ahumeniy | 09/14/07
vote with your feet  catseverywhere@... | 09/14/07
agreed  volatileseeker@... | 09/14/07
My Computer is MY private property  XweAponX | 09/14/07
Microsoft OS  afalouth@... | 09/14/07
Microsoft =  msdead | 09/14/07
Duh. It's updating the update manager - morons  GeekGirl7301 | 09/14/07
LMAO  tubr0 | 09/14/07
Except that....  Necrolin | 09/15/07
Stealth update  paktrik@... | 09/14/07
People are scary....  stevets32 | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  RS9 | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  terryc1751 | 09/14/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  trepka@... | 09/14/07
One question  THEE WOLF | 09/15/07
My Own Stealth Update  Cornhead | 09/15/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  Presler | 09/15/07
Don't be scared, there's logic behind it...  btravis51 | 09/17/07
It comes down to this  m0rg_za | 09/17/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  adam_lewis@... | 09/18/07
Gee, tanks!  Ole Man | 09/18/07
Just Say No To MS CoolAid  cunhajo | 09/21/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  neonfrank | 09/23/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  edynovk@... | 09/24/07
Unauthorized Update Also Happens w/Win2k  IP-Man | 09/26/07
ditto  ibtechnologies@... | 09/26/07
We've discussed this  straybeat_z | 10/01/07
Just what I need, changes without auth  mgjsmith@... | 10/05/07
sneaky sneeeaky  vilppuu@... | 10/05/07
About the 10th of each month.  baumgarp@... | 10/25/07
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  mgjsmith@... | 03/24/08
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  qi.xinyan163.com | 05/12/09
RE: Confirmation of stealth Windows Update  power8 | 07/28/09

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