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September 27th, 2007

Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 12:15 am

Categories: In the news, Microsoft

Tags: Microsoft Windows Update, Microsoft Windows XP, Update, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Remember that Stealth Update I talked about a couple of weeks ago?  The one that Microsoft sent down the pipes to XP and Vista users and installed it irrespective of whether the user had given consent for updates to be installed?  Remember too how the apologists claimed that there was nothing wrong with how Microsoft had behaved Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mixbecause there was no harm done?  Well, it turns out that this update isn’t as benign as we first thought and can indeed cause problems for Windows XP users if they try to repair their installation.

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Information uncovered by Scott Dunn of WindowSecrets.com indicated that a bug in this update prevented users from being able to download and install patches on XP systems that have been repaired:

However, after running the repair option from an XP CD-ROM, Automatic Updates defaults to “on,” and the new 7.0.600.381 executables are automatically downloaded and installed. These new executables fail to register themselves with the operating system, preventing Windows Update from working as intended. This, in turn, prevents Microsoft’s 80 latest updates from being installed.

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I was lucky enough to get early access to this information, and regular readers by now must know that over at the PC Doc HQ we don’t take anything for granted - so we set up a few systems to see if we could replicate this issue.

We approached this issue in much the same way that we approached the initial claims of a stealth update - with a healthy level or skepticism.  Because of this we set up several test rigs (with varying hardware configurations) onto which we installed Windows XP.  We then bought the OSes up to date with regard to patches and then booted up the systems off the Windows XP CD and carried out a system repair. 

After carrying out the repair we rebooted the systems and tried to update the OSes so that they was up once again to date with patches.  In all cases we were shocked to find that we couldn’t update the systems.  Windows Update informed us that it needed to update itself, Windows Update woesand once that was done allowed us to continue as far as downloading the updates, but, and here’s the but, when it came to installing them, all 80 updates slated for installation failed with no indication as to why and with no offer of a remedy to the problem.  Trying to re-download the updates meets the same conclusion.

In case you’re wondering, we also waited to see if Windows Update would fix itself if left to run in the background automatically based on a schedule.  We waited, and waited, and waited, but nothing happened.  Without a doubt, Windows Update is totally broken.

What to do if you are affected –>

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RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix
Thanks, Adrian!

Read your description of the problem caused by the stealth update, which matched my symptoms exactly.

Downloaded the batch file, ran it, 100% fixed now!

Great job!... (Read the rest)
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As one f the "Microsoft Apologists" you ...  ShadeTree | 09/27/07
I commend you  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
I second that (nt)  Michael Kelly | 09/27/07
There is one caveat  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Wrong caveat  madfenris@... | 10/02/07
Thirded (NT)  Stuka | 09/27/07
Not so sure you were wrong.  ye | 09/27/07
The issue is  Michael Kelly | 09/27/07
That and...  zkiwi | 09/27/07
Go...  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Stealth updates that It is not informed of are bad  NZJester | 09/27/07
You mean most companies don't check  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
Do you run event loggers on production PC's?  zkiwi | 09/29/07
For this particular issue the user is likely to conclude...  ye | 09/27/07
Wrong answer  rhomp2002@... | 09/27/07
Your joking...right?  ye | 09/27/07
Who is being oblivious here?  JJQ1000 | 09/27/07
Apparently you are being oblivious  ye | 09/27/07
What else might go wrong?  davidr69 | 09/27/07
No, I don't miss the point. That's why I wrote:  ye | 09/27/07
Your "tiny number of users" just keeps growing...  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
Have to say something  _DC_ | 09/27/07
They don't have to  ye | 09/27/07
Yeah  _DC_ | 09/28/07
Tiny Number, my @$$!!!  Dr. John | 09/27/07
" it's reasonable to be upset if he gives it back to you without air...  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
7%? Where did you get that number?  ye | 09/27/07
Is this "ye" for real ?  uM0p ap!sdn | 09/28/07
Yeah, he's a riot  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/28/07
Parallels anyone?  Ole Man | 09/27/07
good job  Malleable | 09/27/07
The point is "Change Control" !  Ron_007 | 09/27/07
You have just shown the difference . . .  critic-at-arms | 09/28/07
Agreed.  CobraA1 | 09/30/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  plino | 09/27/07
Microsoft gets away with it...  bjbrock | 09/27/07
and  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/27/07
Microsoft stealth is nothing new  Ole Man | 09/27/07
Ahh yes,  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/28/07
What a load of crap  rhomp2002@... | 09/27/07
And you are just the naive...  bjbrock | 09/27/07
Remember the EULA,  devlin_X | 09/27/07
Not necessarily...  MacCanuck | 09/27/07
And Most often better not Interpeted ...  ShadeTree | 09/27/07
It does make one wonder  zkiwi | 09/27/07
So what are you trying to say?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/27/07
Don't get your ....  ShadeTree | 09/27/07
You may want to pull your head out for some air.  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/28/07
And you might just want to get a ...  ShadeTree | 09/28/07
Rather cryptic...  MacCanuck | 09/27/07
Merely stating the obvious ...  ShadeTree | 09/27/07
And I was merely stating  MacCanuck | 09/28/07
Ya, no offense MacCanuck  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/28/07
"EULA Interpretation" link  MacCanuck | 09/27/07
Not True  voska | 09/27/07
What kind of system  Michael Kelly | 09/27/07
Great Post LOL  TheBoyBailey | 09/27/07
What you never noticed DOS still  devlin_X | 09/27/07
Are you still running Windows 98?  eljay001 | 09/27/07
Looks like DOS, Smells like DOS  duclod | 09/27/07
Shells and Operating Systems  DannyO_0x98 | 09/27/07
In other words  Michael Kelly | 09/27/07
Command line is not DOS  voska | 09/27/07
DOS  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
The good old days/bad old days  pjrobertz@... | 09/27/07
Powershell only installations  ben.rattigan | 09/27/07
One that actually works?  Henrik Moller | 09/27/07
Actually....  Badgered | 09/27/07
What's the difference?  Michael Kelly | 09/27/07
Yeah, I knew  Badgered | 09/28/07
Did I miss...  wolf_z | 09/27/07
Re: Anybody know?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/27/07
Don't Depend on XP Repair  racingmustang | 09/27/07
Thanks for the Update Fix Adrian!!!  racingmustang | 09/27/07
Nice find Adrian. (eom)  BillyG_n_SC | 09/27/07
Forget the EULA  vmeck@... | 09/27/07
Adrian - You are the best blogger ZD-Net has  kbaily05@... | 09/27/07
Thanks!  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 09/27/07
I agree.  James T. Kirk | 09/27/07
Really?  pa2004 | 09/27/07
Really? I've always thought just the opposite.  OButterball | 09/27/07
I'll second that emotion!  Ole Man | 09/27/07
Hear! Hear!  BanjoPaterson | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  wkulecz | 09/27/07
Who got updated?  muzhik | 09/27/07
Is this really that big of a deal?  BroGnorik | 09/27/07
10 minutes?  jasonp@... | 09/27/07
That is all it took.  BroGnorik | 09/27/07
You're tech savvy  brendthess | 09/27/07
Let's assume your timing is right  rhomp2002@... | 09/27/07
"M$ should be ashamed of itself"???  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
You are right, it's not.  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
As Artie Johnson used to say (from the bushes)...  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
You don't know what your talking about  DarthRidiculous | 09/27/07
You forgot  Stuka | 09/27/07
LOL  M.R. Kennedy | 09/27/07
Talk to me when  DarthRidiculous | 09/27/07
Apples and Swiss cheese are a grand snack!  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
Talk about a love affair!!!  MacCanuck | 09/27/07
once again MacC  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Not a fragile psyche  MacCanuck | 09/28/07
nah  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
For a person  zkiwi | 09/29/07
light another bowl  jaybyrd | 09/27/07
Bink got your back...  BillyG_n_SC | 09/27/07
Bloatware management  Chad_z | 09/27/07
Unauthorized computer access is a crime in most states  Rick_R | 09/27/07
I would love to see that happen!  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
Then sue them,  BroGnorik | 09/27/07
Hello, this is a possible CRIME!  spincitysd@... | 09/27/07
You're a Lawyer?  abear4562 | 09/27/07
Adrian; You da' Man!  Kromaethius | 09/27/07
Very interesting ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/07
This isn't the best course of action. It just happens to be...  ye | 09/27/07
Sorry ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/07
Look at it intelligently.  ye | 09/27/07
Well ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/07
No, it doesn't beg anything. It's the choice they made.  ye | 09/27/07
Are you ever capable of doing anything other than muddying the waters?  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
Are you capable of comprehending what's written?  ye | 09/27/07
Saaaaay? Wasn't it the CLI?  Ole Man | 09/27/07
The windows powershell is an awesome tool.  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
The windows powershell?  Ole Man | 09/27/07
More than once...several times  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
More than once...several times  Ole Man | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  kd5auq | 09/27/07
I believe I crossed this issue as well  nucrash | 09/27/07
Similar Problem  croberts | 09/27/07
Should people charge MS for renting their own PCs? Bought for MS? (NT)  Vily Clay | 09/27/07
Why does anyone bother...  seal@... | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  wje@... | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  G Brent LeVasseur | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  sysop-dr | 09/27/07
Let's play this out on your car ...  msdead | 09/27/07
Or better yet...  mhughson | 09/27/07
correction  mhughson | 09/27/07
Hacking  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
It's not hacking it's called ...  msdead | 09/28/07
Linux  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
It's not just Windows XP that was affected  joe_volleyguy@... | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  paulwebb@... | 09/27/07
Now that you've pushed back that far...  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  bricar2 | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  infoz | 09/27/07
I guess you just did. Thanks!  Media-Ted@... | 09/27/07
What about Office SP3 download?  brossyg@... | 09/27/07
possible way to prevent a stealth update.  pfyearwood | 09/27/07
Its part of being connected  abear4562 | 09/27/07
You are right, but.........  Ole Man | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  barbara230@... | 09/27/07
Thank you!!  funtasticguy | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  ronald.adams@... | 09/27/07
RE: Symantics and wording  wayne@... | 09/27/07
EULA is not end-all  blarman_z | 09/27/07
not only intentional but willful malfeasance  Ole Man | 09/27/07
And What was all this for?  Mr Shaun Warburton | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  James29UK | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  phatkat | 09/27/07
Had this issue end of Aug.  wrench9710 | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  techie1411@... | 09/27/07
Question  Shelendrea | 09/27/07
Clarity and honestly is of vital importance  Ole Man | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  joe6pack_z | 09/27/07
Thanx M$  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
Gee... I don't have problems like this with Linux  mikifinaz1@... | 09/27/07
me either  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
RE: Gee... I don't have problems like this with Linux  joe6pack_z | 09/27/07
Owing a debt?  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
No one really cares...  Crestview | 09/27/07
Complete restore  Crestview | 09/27/07
restore  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
Yes, there is a difference  Leria | 09/27/07
Yeah  Dave32265 | 09/27/07
Adrian....in your testing did you happen...  xuniL_z | 09/27/07
Can I be assured by you that I'm now safe?  Ole Man | 09/27/07
I thought with age....  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
You thought with age came wisdom?  Ole Man | 09/28/07
Problem still occurs  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 09/28/07
MS Is Innovative  aallord | 09/27/07
Can We..  aallord | 09/27/07
Registering the DLL files fixes it ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  Busby.Vicki@... | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  Danometer | 09/27/07
How to be sincere  kidtree | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  usarcomputertec | 09/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  ezrabm@... | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  leo.l.ven@... | 09/28/07
Experiences this with XP Home to XP Pro upgrade  avandenbeukel@... | 09/28/07
Me too  rickc@... | 12/27/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  ovl | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  pjrobbertse@... | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  wyrmflesh | 09/28/07
There is an Error Code on Failure to Update  israelg | 09/28/07
Now I know why ...  usirsclt@... | 09/28/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update  BearPup | 09/28/07
Vermont AtG Replies  BearPup | 10/01/07
Nice entry.  notsofast | 09/28/07
Paranoid...Who's Paranoid?  dgroszek@... | 09/29/07
Windows firewall or third party firewall stop this  bicard | 09/29/07
How do I use the batch file?  not_IT_John | 09/30/07
How do I use the batch file?  monkeynuts | 10/01/07
How do I use the batch file?  not_IT_John | 10/03/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  jgarrott@... | 10/01/07
VIRUS  kokuryu | 10/01/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  endlr@... | 10/01/07
OK, here's a newbie problem (for me, anyway)...  Media-Ted@... | 10/01/07
She must be using XP Home  Ole Man | 10/04/07
Newbie Problem  windstar00@... | 10/01/07
I had problems with automatic update  zmud | 10/02/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  chuck@... | 10/04/07
US law is not universal... check out the EU rulings...  RKG | 10/04/07
Bath File Works with XP Pro Ugrade Too  bobscad | 10/04/07
How many mistakes are you willing to let go?  mypl8s4u2 | 10/07/07
same problem with my fresh XP sp2 OS install  robertk2 | 10/15/07
Nailed it!  fred@... | 10/26/07
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  debelisha@... | 11/12/07
MS Stealth Update & Windows XP Repair don;t mix  geselskap@... | 01/17/08
RE: Microsoft Stealth Update and Windows XP repair don't mix  opstx@... | 03/27/08

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