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November 13th, 2007

Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:45 am

Categories: Hardware, Linux

Tags: Wal-Mart Stores Inc., PC, TC2502 gPC, Linux, Microsoft Windows, Desktops, Operating Systems, UNIX, Open Source, Software

About two weeks ago, Wal-Mart began selling $200 Linux-based PC.  The initial run was around 10,000 units.  Now Wal-Mart is sold out.  Has Linux now found a niche?

Wal-Mart’s $200 PC - sold outThe system sold by Wal-Mart was an Everex’s TC2502 gPC and is the first mass-market $200 desktop PC.  The spec of the system is very low - 1.5 GHz VIA C7 CPU embedded onto a Mini-ITX motherboard, 512MB of RAM and an 80GB Maybe a more relevant question is not whether Linux has found a niche, but whether Windows has outgrown the average user?hard drive - but this doesn’t matter because the system does pretty much everything that your average PC users wants.  With the gPC you can surf the web, send and receive email, work with word processor and spreadsheet documents, chat with friends, keep a blog updated, edit photos and pictures, even burn DVDs CDs thanks to the built-in DVD CD burner.  About the only thing that your average home user won’t be able to do with this PC is play games on it.

One thing that interested me about this PC is that it is shipped in a tower case when the components would fit into a much smaller case.  I wondered why this was the case until I came across a write-up on Wired:

Even at the low end, however, image is everything. The gPC is built using tiny components, but put inside a full-size case because research indicates that Wal-Mart shoppers are so unsophisticated they equate physical size with capability.

That “Wal-Mart shoppers are so unsophisticated” bit is a tad worrying because I do wonder whether someone who equates case size with capability should be put in charge of a Linux system.  The reviews seem pretty positive though.  Maybe Wired have underestimate the kind of person who shops at Wal-Mart.  Positive reviews far outweigh negative ones.  However, the comment that stood out was this:

when you want to jazz it up, just spend 10 bucks for a new linux distro

Interesting comment, eh?

Now here’s what’s interesting about this PC.  It doesn’t have what it takes to run Windows Vista, but it has more than enough power to do pretty much everything that users want from a PC.  As hardware costs have plummeted, and the power that can be squeezed from components increased, the cost of having Windows installed on such a PC becomes too high a proportion of the cost of components.  For example, if you wanted to load Windows Vista Home Basic onto this system (not that I’d suggest that you tried - the PC just couldn’t cope with Vista), you’re adding between $60 and $90 to the cost of the PC (depending on what the vendor pays for an OEM license, if you do it yourself, expect to pay the higher price in this spectrum).  In fact, Wal-Mart do sell a similar system with Home Basic pre-installed (this system has an extra 512MB of RAM, a SATA 150 drive instead of an ATA 150 hard drive, and comes with a keyboard and mouse) for $298.  Add Microsoft Office to that cost and the price of software doubles the price of the hardware.  By installing Linux and OpenOffice, the total cost of the PC is kept as low as possible.  While the price of hardware has fallen dramatically, the price of Windows hasn’t.  This could be Microsoft’s Achilles’ Heel.  This low price point will appeal to many.

Has Linux finally found a niche in which it can compete against Windows or will the interest in these kinds of systems be limited?  I think that Linux might well have found a good niche.  Sure, these low-end systems will never appeal to those who want power at any cost (and who don’t mind if their systems belch black smoke to achieve that power) but for people looking for a very cheap PC at a rock bottom price (this system is so cheap that I doubt you could build one for as good a price if you added shipping charges for the components into the deal), this must be a pretty irresistible deal.

Maybe a more relevant question is not whether Linux has found a niche, but whether Windows has outgrown the average user?

Thoughts?

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out
nice article, I like it.
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Expensive way to buy a computer  John L. Ries | 11/14/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  teddybairs1 | 11/13/07
Very Interesting..... only 1000 in the US?  LazLong | 11/13/07
I'd actually be interested in buying one..  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Not sure I am clear... what you mean...  LazLong | 11/13/07
Well isn't that nice.  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Well, you got "snide" down....  LazLong | 11/13/07
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Sorry, Juice  Ole Man | 11/13/07
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I see now where our differences lie  Ole Man | 11/13/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  Okieman46 | 11/13/07
A few questions...  itpro_z | 11/13/07
Easy answer...  ju1ce | 11/13/07
But doesn't that do damage?  itpro_z | 11/13/07
Perhaps you don't remember trying  Update victim | 11/13/07
I do remember  itpro_z | 11/13/07
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Agree, somewhat  itpro_z | 11/13/07
Substitution  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/13/07
Very true when it comes to home users. (NT)  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Easy, but suspect  IT_User | 11/13/07
Appliance computers...  itpro_z | 11/13/07
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re: A Few Questions  Okieman46 | 11/13/07
It's not  voska | 11/13/07
Most people don't even know....  itpro_z | 11/13/07
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It's gOS  shutrbug | 11/13/07
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I'd buy one of these in a heartbeat...  TranMan | 11/13/07
MS bleeding  ibtechnologies@... | 11/13/07
Hardware move faster than software  itpro_z | 11/13/07
Open Office is available on Window & Macs  jnheroy@... | 11/13/07
It appears adequate, but...  goyta | 11/13/07
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Well against my better judgement...  ju1ce | 11/13/07
Well, Juice  Ole Man | 11/13/07
Re: It appears adequate, but...  none none | 11/13/07
Yeah, follows the same line as...  ju1ce | 11/13/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  helenb1azes@... | 11/13/07
To get more clicks (for which he gets paid)  Ole Man | 11/13/07
Why  helenb1azes@... | 11/13/07
Why do you ask?  Ole Man | 11/13/07
Proving A Point Again  IAHawkeye | 11/13/07
Yes, a combination of cheap hardware, cheap software, and online  DonnieBoy | 11/13/07
A little research saves a lot of face....  devlin_X | 11/13/07
Very good point!! Many are best to stick with Windows for now, but switch  DonnieBoy | 11/13/07
Not only that, but...  itpro_z | 11/13/07
I'm shocked, shocked!  Tony Agudo | 11/13/07
Is that a lot?  roaming | 11/13/07
I don't think Wal-Mart expected a sell out so quick...  Tony Agudo | 11/14/07
Hold the Press!  rkuhn040172@... | 11/14/07
The Press is running now  Tony Agudo | 11/14/07
I Stand By My Statements  rkuhn040172@... | 11/15/07
I have a gPC - review online  scott1329 | 11/14/07
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A Rush to Judgment?  LazLong | 11/14/07
You can install the Ubuntu destop easily on it  lyndaj70@... | 11/21/07
Maybe they don't know what they are buying  jpr75_z | 11/14/07
It Is Well Worth $200.00  bocamp22 | 11/14/07
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 11/14/07
Only a clueless moron  Ole Man | 11/14/07
The irony of this post is too much.  rtk | 11/14/07
Long after the iron-ee  Ole Man | 11/15/07
Ole Man - the clueless moron  fr0thy | 11/14/07
You've got his name and number  Ole Man | 11/15/07
It is just a niche  seaczar | 11/14/07
An appliance like any other  sbrasseux@... | 11/14/07
you are right  seaczar | 11/14/07
Why should they all use the same operating system.  Ole Man | 11/14/07
That's given me something good to say about M$  fr0thy | 11/14/07
re: why should they use the same operating system  seaczar | 11/14/07
I think you're the one who missed the point, completely  Ole Man | 11/15/07
Vista Basic Killer  kakman1@... | 11/15/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  Reged | 11/15/07
More work for techie friends - Look! It's a kiosk computer  ramjetwiebe | 11/15/07
Aww, shucks!  Ole Man | 11/15/07
Been Selling Them for Years  fred@... | 11/15/07
I was installing XP Home for a lot of people then.  JCitizen | 11/17/07
Neat gadgets?  techiebiker | 11/16/07
Please Call 1-800-walmart for support  scottmathewson@... | 11/20/07
I have returned several things to walmart  Ole Man | 11/20/07
Everex sure isn't going to help...  JCitizen | 11/23/07
confuse the heck out of newbies!  Ole Man | 11/25/07
Yes I would be surprised at hearing of any help..  JCitizen | 11/26/07
Linux not point-n-click???  lyndaj70@... | 11/21/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  Alexious | 11/27/07
Asus Terminator Series  ceh4702 | 11/29/07
I think we all know we can make a better - cheaper...  JCitizen | 11/30/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  LinuxOwns | 12/05/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  info@... | 12/06/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  info@... | 12/06/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  Gralyndr | 12/06/07
Most don't care what O/S.  Billy.Jones@... | 12/06/07
Just the old variation of bait and switch...  mikifinaz1@... | 12/06/07
open source anarchy  perchecreek | 12/21/07
RE: Wal-Mart's $200 PC - sold out  asdfa74sd@... | 01/26/08

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