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November 15th, 2007

Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 5:19 am

Categories: Microsoft, Vista

Tags: Robot, Error Message, Robots, Microsoft Windows, Emerging Technologies, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

One thing that I’ve noticed about Windows Vista is that Microsoft seems to have hired robots to write the error messages that the OS displays, and that these robots are writing error messages so that other robots can understand them.  I want a human to write error messages, and for those error messages to be understandable by other humans - please.  Is that too much to ask?

Take, for example, this error message I got yesterday when trying to get Windows Update working on my 64-bit Vista install:

Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots

Code 8024402F

Seriously, how many people are there in the world who are going to go “Hmmm, error code 8024402F … ahhh yes, I know what the problem is”?  I can’t, and I’ve been neck deep in the Microsoft ecosystem for what is getting to be almost two decades.  I’m betting that that number is probably down in the single or maybe low double digits, and that those people don’t have any friends or social life because they waste all their time remembering error messages. 

Why do I get that error code vomited out into my face by the system and yet have to click on the Get help link in order to get help on it?  Why can’t the page just display at least a brief synopsis of the problem that error code 8024402F relates to in order to give me a little heads up as to what’s coming?  And why does that Get help link look so pale and anemic compared to that Try again button, which despite inviting us to click on it is, in fact, utterly useless and you can click on it until the end of time and not get a result?

I’m picking on this one error message here, and if it was the only such example of help written “by robots for robots” things wouldn’t be too bad, but it isn’t.  Windows is in fact crammed full of them, and to make matters worse, there are far too many undocumented error codes and far too many codes that just seem to be the programmer’s way of telling us that they really don’t know what went wrong. 

Ease of use when the system is running properly is one thing, but it’s also important to have ease of use when things go wrong, and this is an area where Microsoft engineers could improve on greatly.  Sure, I have to acknowledge that Microsoft has made huge leaps forward and the greater use if web-based help is making sure that new and updated information is filtering down to the users, but there is, without a doubt, a greater need for clarity and easier access to information when it come to crashes, lockups, and other problems.  For example, Event Viewer is a vital tool when it comes to troubleshooting, but under XP venturing into the Event Viewer was only for those who knew what they were doing.  Under Vista, the Event Viewer has been improved considerably, but there’s still huge room for enhancement.

Thoughts?

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Where's Bender when you need him?
On a side note, the same issues apply with Visual Studio errors in try blocks.

Usually you can just do a search in google with that error code and line and voila. You either get the Technet response or MSDN Response.... (Read the rest)
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If you think they are bad, you should try a guru meditation error!  Scrat | 11/15/07
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Funny thing about NT  YaBaby | 11/16/07
At least the Guru  Freebird54 | 11/18/07
Look on the bright side...  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/15/07
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More help info needed built into computer OSs  John Sawyer | 11/16/07
Culture?  sysop-dr | 11/16/07
Microsoft culture  laman | 11/16/07
Get a dictionary:  pablo Dante | 11/16/07
More appaling  Bill4 | 11/15/07
wait a minuet....  jebakk | 11/16/07
XP didn't start that way  Greenknight_z | 11/16/07
the error is clear: windows could not search for updates  qmlscycrajg | 11/15/07
True: the error code is clear!  jardinbleu | 11/16/07
And to make it worse, error codes have  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
Copying from dialog box  Qbt | 11/15/07
While it's good to know that is there  Michael Kelly | 11/15/07
Intuitively obvious, yeah sure.  Bill4 | 11/15/07
dood... that's awesome...  Valis Keogh | 11/15/07
In fact, they are.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/15/07
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Again, not quite true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
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Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
Quite frankly . . .  JLHenry | 11/15/07
Windows code has gotten a bit too big  Me_too | 11/16/07
those messages  eb276 | 11/15/07
I agree in part  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
in part  aussieblnd@... | 11/16/07
As distinct from ... ?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/15/07
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You're kidding, right?  TechinMN | 11/16/07
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If only replace is the answer  laman | 11/16/07
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On that I agree, with a dash of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
They do. It's at www.microsoft.com happy  ye | 11/15/07
And to make it worse, error codes have  aussieblnd@... | 11/16/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  lbfjrmd@... | 11/15/07
They learned from Apple  Eriamjh | 11/15/07
Yeah, but at least  frgough | 11/15/07
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Someone . . .  JLHenry | 11/15/07
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Favorite Mac error message  John Sawyer | 11/16/07
They learned from Apple  aussieblnd@... | 11/16/07
Only Error Code You Need To Know  itanalyst | 11/15/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 11/15/07
We know when we are receiving incorrect data  GuidingLight | 11/15/07
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Connection errors  John Sawyer | 11/16/07
The ugly truth, its lazy coders.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/15/07
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Users not so lame  John Sawyer | 11/16/07
Maybe who you are really mad at is yourself.  C0MM3NT | 11/15/07
buy a Mac.  aussieblnd@... | 11/16/07
What's just as bad . . .  CobraA1 | 11/15/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  handyman315 | 11/16/07
Nothing new here . . . move along . . .  handyman315 | 11/16/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  Steve*1* | 11/16/07
microsoft = crap  ivor.boaz@... | 11/16/07
IBM and messages  scott1329 | 11/16/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  toddo12 | 11/16/07
What about if you lost your Internet connection?  John Sawyer | 11/16/07
RE: What about if you lost your Internet connection?  toddo12 | 11/16/07
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Error messages  bfilipiak@... | 11/16/07
News Flash - windows has bad error messages  Steven Rogers | 11/16/07
Can't you just Google it?  djchandler | 11/16/07
Why?  pzsolnay@... | 11/16/07
Just pushing buttons.  djchandler | 11/16/07
See, I told you Google had the answer!  djchandler | 11/16/07
Here's the actual link...  djchandler | 11/16/07
re: Surely Google can help.  Me_too | 11/16/07
Exactly  seanferd | 11/17/07
Dumb users  billy@... | 11/16/07
RE: Dumb users  toddo12 | 11/16/07
What I want to know,,,  djchandler | 11/16/07
want to know  aussieblnd@... | 11/16/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  ofa.maurer@... | 11/16/07
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The only error code, so far...  Dr. John | 11/16/07
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There is a reason  byte_me | 11/16/07
Lazy, tsk tsk  cardinal4 | 11/16/07
The reason you get these messages is that there is no documentation  rsnic | 11/16/07
I am surprised you didn't criticize...  JCitizen | 11/16/07
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RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  F1RST@... | 11/17/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  smartmind | 11/17/07
Error question  seanferd | 11/17/07
Use Google  John Musbach | 11/17/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  Cyberbian@... | 11/17/07
Don't need no steeeenking error message  Ole Man | 11/17/07
RE: Windows error messages - written by robots, for robots  pavka@... | 11/18/07
If only you guys understood  Jeffrey0816 | 11/18/07
Oh yeah, forgot...  Jeffrey0816 | 11/18/07
Written by idiots for idiots...  mikifinaz1@... | 11/19/07
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ET GO HOME  robapacl@... | 11/20/07
Where's Bender when you need him?  ju1ce | 12/15/07

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