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February 16th, 2009

Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics

Posted by Zack Whittaker @ 9:15 am

Categories: Downloads, Government, Gratuitous rant, Legal and political, Money, Multimedia, Piracy and file-sharing, University

Tags: RIAA, Music, Thomas Perrelli, Piracy, Business Operations, Corporate Law, Zack Whittaker

After checking Twitter a few moments ago, I was shocked, horrified and appalled at the news that a student from Chicago threatened suicide over the forceful, bullying tactics of major media corporations.

I didn’t think my 200th post on ZDNet would result in me saying this.

I have a fairly controversial opinion when it comes to software piracy, and sharing music and other multimedia online. But considering hundreds of millions of people share and download music every day, the chances of being struck by one of these lawsuits is en par with winning the lottery or being killed in a nasty milk float accident.

The Recording Industry Association of America (”RIAA” hereon in) with the assistance of other major corporations, including EMI, Warner, Sony BMG, has reported to be bullying students and “innocent people” in a series of attacks in regards to music piracy. Whilst some may say sharing a music file with another person is like walking into a shop and stealing the CD, I would whole-heartedly disagree.

I don’t know a huge amount about the legalities, nor do I understand US law or even the politics too much, so I’ll give this the best go I can. Many of my links direct back here, so please do check out the sourced article.

Thomas Perrelli is the “main guy” who shut down Internet radio by helping to mastermind massive fees imposed on companies such as Pandora.com. Also we have Donald Verrilli, who was one of the main people involved in the attempts of Viacom suing YouTube.

These two men, Perrelli and Verrilli, don’t have a very positive opinion in the online world.

Long story short, according to p2pnet:

“I eventually had a long telephone conversation with girl I mentioned earlier, the one who was threatening to kill herself, and she said she, too, would write something about her experiences. But she changed her mind after her parents agreed to bail her out.

She wouldn’t tell me the price, but she said she now hoped she’d be able to get back to her studies and on with her life.”

There is then the story of Brittany Kruger, who could never be considered a pirate of any kind, shared some music with a few of her friends. This led to the RIAA instigating a lawsuit against her, and described as “being hung out to dry by the labels, with the RIAA fronting for them.”

Her full story can be found a quarter way down the page in blue.

In both my honest, professional opinion, as both a journalist and a student, these vicious, thoughtless, bullying tactics need to stop. Yes I’m sure to some extent this post may not make sense, and you’re probably looking for a point. There is my point, America, because students should not be victims of media giants who take advantage of the law.

Zack Whittaker, the youngest in the ZDNet network, is a British student at the University of Kent, Canterbury, where he studies BA (Hons) Criminology and Social Policy. His insight into the next-generation is unique and first-hand, sharing his knowledge of the here and now but more so what's next and how to get there.

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Your "logic" is warped...try this analogy  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
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sorry to burst YOUR bubble  dgralick | 10/31/09
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sorry, you are wrong.  adr5@... | 02/19/09
Actually, he/she is right  roaming | 02/19/09
*IF* The Musicians & Artists....  madrucke@... | 02/18/09
New model...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
How times change...  williamacole@... | 02/18/09
If I remember correctly...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Re: Copyright laws?  gclanman | 02/18/09
greed  jackfred | 02/18/09
open source is free like a puppy is free  bbbbill | 02/18/09
When the last time you've tried a *nix based OS?  AzuMao | 02/18/09
wrong  bbbbill | 02/20/09
If you say so.  AzuMao | 02/24/09
the clue is in the question....  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
OK, sure  bbbbill | 02/20/09
re: OK, sure  Isocrates | 02/20/09
software/music usage  dhays | 02/24/09
So basically what you're saying  AzuMao | 03/01/09
to screw or get screwed  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
Exactly...(NT)  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Here's the difference  cfostel | 02/19/09
I think it was Woody Guthrie  TranMan | 02/19/09
He made his point...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
You're comparing Apps and Oranges  Metronome49 | 02/19/09
Radio Head may be free, but I still contribute..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
"Don't want to"?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Record companies don't develop...  markanthonymartin | 10/26/09
So, I guess your employer can say to you...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Haha  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
If you want to give YOUR music away...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Sharing and stealing  williamacole@... | 02/18/09
Sharing and Stealing  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Actually, he isn't.  AzuMao | 02/18/09
Better watch out, Azu  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Service not knowledge  williamacole@... | 02/26/09
Except that the RIAA..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Music is not a thought or an idea, it's a product  tzcannon | 02/19/09
Media and mind  williamacole@... | 02/26/09
So what you're saying is that  John Zern | 02/16/09
no  kevinrs1 | 02/17/09
Only the big artists make money  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
At least you...  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
If you believe all that crap you said...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
record, mix, promote, and distribute  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
So wait...  LeeC | 02/18/09
It's a figure of speech.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Nothing for nothing  Pimlico Kid | 02/17/09
They live on concert & ticket sales and direct downloads  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
who said free?  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
You do know  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Agree in principle, but...  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
But they DID break the law  codmedia | 02/16/09
...and they suborned Congress to break the law  cjcoats | 02/16/09
AMEN!  madrucke@... | 02/18/09
Not sure about heartless, but  clfitz | 02/16/09
I agree  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
It's not about IP, it's about sales  nicey1966 | 02/19/09
I notice you mentioned nothing about the other half of the law.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Aren't your exaggerations a little ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Does the law give the RIAA permission to extend copyright law?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Over the top?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
You'll get no sympathy here, ShadeTree  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
"pursuing remedies"?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
You're kidding, right?  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Thank you for your research.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
I'm not saying the RIAA is right...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
About all this chopping business.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
The kids did not create the music download revolution.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
They don't prosecute the gun makers in murder cases...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
What actions are you talking about?  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
Nice talk, Koz...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
Re: MGP2  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Whom do you speak for MGP2  Thguns | 02/18/09
I believe you are the kidder  outpostprime | 02/19/09
Actually...  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Ya..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
What is piracy?  Jay_BG | 02/18/09
The RIAA's definition or the dictionary definition?  AzuMao | 02/18/09
Agreed  Average-IT-Guy | 02/19/09
Killing the music?..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
If the person in question ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I agree it's not like copying for a friend, but  clfitz | 02/16/09
Proportionality!  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I don't know, and I DO see you point.  clfitz | 02/16/09
It is not the kids that get sued.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Kids by definition cannot be sued.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Easy for you to say  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
re: Proportionality!  none none | 02/16/09
The scenario is very ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Just because ShadeTree says so  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Fail  AzuMao | 09/01/09
P2P networks...  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Yes!  adelacuesta | 02/18/09
If I speed, can I whine about the cops chasing me?  spark555 | 02/16/09
Nobody's whining about enforcement, really.  clfitz | 02/16/09
arm amputation?  spark555 | 02/16/09
I didn't say anyone did, just using it for comparison purposes. NT  clfitz | 02/16/09
Can't compare if it's nothing that's happening  spark555 | 02/16/09
How many items could one shoplift in 30 minutes?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
It is not the downloader they are after.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I wish they would go after the download services.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
If youre using google  adelacuesta | 02/18/09
It's a fine comparison.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
When the cop pulls you over.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
did anyone get the crap beaten out of them?  spark555 | 02/16/09
Did anyone get the crap beat out of them?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
explain it to me  spark555 | 02/16/09
Because there isn't even any proof.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Are you retarded?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Shoplifting isn't bank-robbery, but it is a crime  spark555 | 02/16/09
You sure do. But the fine is less, and most  clfitz | 02/16/09
Shoplifting isn't bank robbery.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
But wouldn't this whole argument be a moot point  John Zern | 02/16/09
yep  spark555 | 02/16/09
It would be a moot point.  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
I just feel it is stupid and pointless...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Maybe because  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over corporate bullying tactics  spark555 | 02/16/09
That's the whole issue  MGP2 | 02/16/09
What difference to anyone except the consumer does it make  AzuMao | 09/01/09
$500 min for 1st time shoplifting  spark555 | 02/16/09
re: $500 min for 1st time shoplifting  none none | 02/16/09
Fine - have the shoplifter steal video games  spark555 | 02/16/09
You don't get it  none none | 02/16/09
"Just bits" - ok, lend me access to your biz net  spark555 | 02/16/09
If his business normally sells that stuff to whoever wants it, for $10, ok.  AzuMao | 02/24/09
So how is it that no one lost anything?  John Zern | 02/16/09
No loss  erikswanson | 02/18/09
And many organizations give books away for free..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Where's this assumption of "instead" come to?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Crime and Punishment.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
that was exactly the point I was making  spark555 | 02/16/09
The point is.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
OK, but now you know, right?  MGP2 | 02/16/09
I don't give a rat's ass about music.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Once again, I love it....  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Here's a good way to get people to stop stealing songs  John Zern | 02/16/09
Sorry, MGP2, I can't agree  John Zern | 02/16/09
Pass a law?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
@koz: Let me see if I'm reading you correctly...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
@MGP2  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
Um, lawyers' fees?  MGP2 | 02/17/09
re: Um, lawyers' fees?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Re: MGP2  AzuMao | 09/01/09
I don't even like the RIAA  spark555 | 02/16/09
Ya.... no.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Here's what's wrong..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: $500 min for 1st time shoplifting  oldbaritone | 02/19/09
Somehow, I manage to pay for my music  spark555 | 02/16/09
Somehow, all of the Austrians in Germany managed to not be Jews.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
sounds kinda like.... traffic enforcement  spark555 | 02/16/09
Look a little closer  the gremlin | 02/18/09
No comparison.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Just bits....  Mr_Wizard | 02/17/09
Maybe the "just bits" people should check this out...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
If you stole 694,000 cars..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over corporate bullying tactics  Phantom.si | 02/17/09
some just don't get it...  upit | 02/17/09
Prosecute The Record Companys!  Peter.mitchell@... | 02/17/09
Who doesn't get it?  oldbaritone | 02/19/09
If what we're buying is the IP, not the media..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Change the law  Dr_Zinj | 02/17/09
partly right...  upit | 02/17/09
Atrocious comparisons.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
What the heck are you talking about?  the gremlin | 02/18/09
Woops! Ignore...posted in wrong spot  MGP2 | 02/17/09
the battle  midenginedrift | 02/17/09
RIAA Bullying comes to more than punishing crimes  kevinrs1 | 02/17/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  robe@... | 02/18/09
Hell ya!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  frotty | 02/18/09
If you're not going to buy it either way  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Their business model is dying and they don't know what to do  rarsa | 02/18/09
What about proportionality?  rarsa | 02/18/09
The person didn't do anything to the artist.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  Ashtonian | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  olddogv | 02/18/09
Broadcasts are public domain?  dgrainge | 02/18/09
They can't.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  shanedr | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jrcel@... | 02/18/09
its organised crime!  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
This is a MORAL issue  dgrainge | 02/18/09
where will I buy music?  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
From the artist?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
how to find?  walkerjian@... | 02/19/09
a dumb idea...  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
A good idea!  Isocrates | 02/20/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mydesktopworks | 02/18/09
Excuse me, but...  Isocrates | 02/20/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  wcosales@... | 02/18/09
Nope  AzuMao | 09/01/09
If, (IF), the law was broken....  El Condor | 02/18/09
Yee haw!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  psiEnergos | 02/18/09
But that's what they want  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Put simply: **** THE RIAA  butler360 | 02/18/09
Most of you people are messed up in the morals lobe  Timpraetor | 02/18/09
Huh?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  AlisaK2000@... | 02/18/09
Boycott the corrupt and evil Record Company cartel!  Dr. K | 02/18/09
BAN RIAA for eternity  Gradius2 | 02/18/09
Lawyers  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Didn't the RIAA drop the lawsuits?  erikswanson | 02/18/09
Years ago...  cdadave83814@... | 02/18/09
Seriously?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Well good  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Simple solution  jjbiener@... | 02/19/09
I'm afraid life isn't that simple  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/09
Simple question  AzuMao | 09/01/09
And, your interest is?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Why do you assume  AzuMao | 09/01/09
But this IS their life.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jhand47201 | 02/18/09
I use every chance I can to...  mikifinaz1@... | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  markw53 | 02/18/09
You might want to take a look outside of the MTV channel, then.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  bill_kananen@... | 02/18/09
No..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  1031982 | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 02/18/09
Not okay to steal it.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Suicide? Wait a minute . . .  stantonreg | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  PeterPac | 02/18/09
That would work..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  qbit9 | 02/18/09
You get the money  AzuMao | 09/01/09
victory uber alles . . .  bob@... | 02/18/09
Victory or Survival?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
No, they don't get to. Nor do they want to.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  RichH1606@... | 02/18/09
The future is here  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Sorry, you've got it backwards.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Music companies are actually stealing  rhon@... | 02/18/09
Suicide threats are ...  archetuthus | 02/19/09
Suicide threats are...  archetuthus | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
Many points here.....  p.vinnie@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  vaughanm | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  marc_90292@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  john.foggitt@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  raven1350@... | 02/19/09
RE: If Poland Springs can sell water...  ca1ic0cat | 02/19/09
RE: but they did break the law  ca1ic0cat | 02/19/09
Don't make comparisons like that.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
How about giving the RIAA a taste of their own medicine?  trust2112@... | 02/19/09
The problem is  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RIAA should go away  morgan66 | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  rwill | 02/19/09
At least he tried (and succeeded) in making points..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  kevsan | 02/19/09
hmmm, so i play an mp3 in my car  walkerjian@... | 02/19/09
According to the RIAA..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Legal user of media  kenmacallister | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mmagliaro | 02/19/09
Yawn  mrohwohlt@... | 02/19/09
Yawn.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Support content producers and cut out these groups!  Breetai | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mrohwohlt@... | 02/19/09
Kids CAN use open source  ljdellar@... | 02/19/09
What You Don't Know About Music Companies  tomcgpenton | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  houstontechnology6@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  rwmiller@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jupiterick | 02/19/09
Any Wealthy group can do that. IE: Doctors and Insurance Ind. In Texas  invmgr@... | 02/20/09
Does that mean  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RIAA has one foot in the grave.  public@... | 02/20/09
Who is the thief and who is their victim?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Wow! Now that makes sense!  jnkmail@... | 02/21/09
Confession is...  Isocrates | 02/23/09
Just a little fix of your comparison to make it relevent to the discussion  AzuMao | 02/24/09
Horrible analogy!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jhencken | 02/21/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jnkmail@... | 02/21/09
????  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dkuhnwald@... | 02/26/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  tre51@... | 02/28/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 03/14/09
"but you can't go out and build Pontiacs and sell them"  AzuMao | 03/15/09
You can give your Pontiac away  dgralick | 03/16/09
Please clarify  AzuMao | 03/17/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 03/16/09
"At which time I suspect there will be a lot fewer great songs being record  AzuMao | 03/17/09
So the ones making great songs will get rich.  dgralick | 03/19/09
Who said anything about re-distributing?  AzuMao | 03/21/09
re-distributing  dgralick | 03/22/09
Oh brother  AzuMao | 04/01/09
What's so hard to understand?  dgralick | 04/01/09
I'm not advocating anything being changed.  AzuMao | 04/04/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  vdude8 | 04/22/09
so confused  dgralick | 04/24/09
Good job at completely evading his questions.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
test  mgp3 | 07/28/09
Hmm..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
Weird interpretation of the law there  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mcp123 | 10/26/09
meant to be  dgralick | 10/27/09
It was meant to be that media enter the public domain after creator's death  AzuMao | 10/27/09
Time to change the copy law  Altotus | 10/30/09
time for me to find another job  dgralick | 10/31/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 11/01/09
That's making an awful lot of assumptions;  AzuMao | 11/02/09
making assumptions  dgralick | 11/02/09
Nope  AzuMao | 11/03/09
"HECK" yeah!  tombutler | 11/04/09
talent  dgralick | 11/06/09

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