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April 17th, 2009

Pirate Bay court case bad news for students

Posted by Zack Whittaker @ 5:17 am

Categories: Breaking news, Discussion, Government, Legal and political, Piracy and file-sharing, University, University fun

Tags: RIAA, Music, Zack Whittaker

The news broke a few hours ago that the creators of The Pirate Bay, one of the largest search repositories for torrents for music, videos, games and, let’s face it, high quality porn, are heading to prison after being found guilty of breaking copyright laws.

I am no stranger to the dark side of the Internet, the downloading of illegal files and whatnot. Students love their music, their videos, and often can’t afford to buy bread and milk let alone a $20 DVD from Wal-Mart.

With organisations such as the RIAA bullying students into paying ridiculous fines for “crimes” sometimes barely committed (there is such a thing), the state of online media is slowing down to a point where I can see no other outcome than a massive Bush-like “war of suing people”.

The media have covered this story extensively, reaching to the highest websites the Internet has to offer. However, I suspect this is a media show and nothing else. The Pirate Bay have only ever done this, metaphorically pointed people in the right direction where to download files from.

Consider this. A group of twenty people have multiple copies of a music CD. A person comes along wanting to listen to some new music but doesn’t know which one to choose. They ask The Pirate Bay to point in the general direction of someone of which their music will suit their taste. The person then approaches that person, takes a copy which is perfectly acceptable to the person sharing the music, and listens to it.

Relatively simple, I’d say? I’m sure you agree.

So all this media havoc and mess, trial by jury and fines reaching in excess of $17 million-(ish), it’s comparable to a public hanging.

As the BBC describes it quite well, the Pirate Bay is “beached, but not sunk“.

The power of revolution is strong, and the more people who revolt over such a matter, the people will prevail. It’s the basis of democracy; give the people what they want. No matter how big the RIAA can be, no matter how powerful a democratic government may appear, the people will always have the upper hand.

Have the courts stepped out of line by using the owners of the Pirate Bay as media bait? Do they deserve the treatment they get, or is it fully justified? Are the RIAA spinning out of control or are they just doing what’s right for the American people?

Leave your thoughts in the comments section.

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I ALREADY paid them, stupid!
"As long as you need someone else to make music for you - pay them for themusic, wanker."

I've been a music fan for several decades, and own several hundred LPs some dating back to the 1970's. ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: BigRonW Posted on: 05/17/09  (Edited: 05/17/09 @ 05:12) You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
The Pirate Bay will win in the end  Lerianis | 04/17/09
They might win the battle, but have little chance of winning the war  Michael Kelly | 04/17/09
Like a Hydra...  Cayble | 04/22/09
Need consumer bill of rights...  BillDem | 04/22/09
Which war would that be?  case42tlc | 04/22/09
end of the site.  tmsbrdrs | 04/28/09
It points to the courts are rigged  gkrwc | 04/22/09
Nope.  fairportfan | 04/22/09
So according to law  Enorton42@... | 04/22/09
Bad analogy  nfhiggs@... | 04/23/09
Nope, it isn't stealing  TheGooch1 | 04/23/09
Post Facto Rulings  Geotopia | 04/22/09
Piracy wouldn't be a problem.....  Takalok | 04/17/09
:facepalm:  magallanes | 04/22/09
"Always" is a very short time here  masonwheeler | 04/22/09
I have to argue...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
I have to argue...  barnytan@... | 04/22/09
Not the same thing at all  nfhiggs@... | 04/23/09
Not the same thing  philculmer | 04/23/09
@ philculmer  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
You are WRONG  rwp75az@... | 04/22/09
Actually...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Actually...  BillDem | 04/22/09
Actually it was 28 28 if renewed  voss749 | 04/22/09
Here Here!  Enorton42@... | 04/22/09
RIAA just a bunch of lawyers making their own graves  Geotopia | 04/22/09
What a load of self-deluded rubbish!  Patanjali | 04/25/09
No - THATS a load of rubbish...  magusat999@... | 05/14/09
It is simple.  xXSpeedzXx | 04/17/09
Who's paying you? RIAA?  Takalok | 04/17/09
You're an idiot.  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/17/09
Whah??????  Takalok | 04/17/09
You are an idiot.  Bruizer | 04/23/09
So..  Average-IT-Guy | 04/24/09
Nice an accusation that I am a lacky  xXSpeedzXx | 04/17/09
You're right - stealing is stealing  Takalok | 04/17/09
Um no. I just went a read up on the  xXSpeedzXx | 04/17/09
You are confused  Takalok | 04/17/09
Sounds like a socialist from here  Mr Dick | 04/22/09
Okay, i'm fairly sure,,,  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Mixed Metaphor  oldbaritone | 04/23/09
Actually, while...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Statutory Damages vs Real Damages  Geotopia | 04/22/09
Would you mind awfully...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Let's sort out two different things.  deowll | 04/22/09
Loathing and stealing from them are two very different things...  qtrback | 04/27/09
Well Said, and Why RIAA are idiots  TheGooch1 | 04/23/09
Cannot follow your logic there?  Patanjali | 04/25/09
malware.  magallanes | 04/22/09
They were not...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Now I agree that the alleged damages  xXSpeedzXx | 04/17/09
I agree...  runner7775 | 04/17/09
No- the *artists*...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Yes, you're right... ish  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
No- the *artists*...  thisis50 | 04/27/09
"walk into a store and walk out with whatever you want without out paying"  AzuMao | 04/22/09
Okay, that's...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Nice logic there.  AzuMao | 04/23/09
good point ( Don't download illegally )  gkrwc | 04/22/09
No  davidhite | 04/22/09
Who downloads illegal music?  Canticus | 04/22/09
hmmmm  bbonis@... | 04/23/09
The sense of entitlement is astounding  happyharry_z | 04/17/09
You're making one major mistake  masonwheeler | 04/22/09
Not according...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
You're kidding, right?  Dauplat | 04/22/09
YOU'RE the one who must be kidding.  AzuMao | 04/24/09
Also you never had the right...  magusat999@... | 05/14/09
Your the one  Mectron | 04/17/09
Terrible Terrible Terrible  Rude Union | 04/19/09
Miss the memo?  cgarrett | 04/22/09
Then... go and read another publication happy  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  bjlong09@... | 04/22/09
"war of suing people"  thedudeistoocool@... | 04/22/09
What!!!  Try2Ketchup | 04/22/09
Wrong about what?  deowll | 04/22/09
Actually...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Starman35 | 04/22/09
starman of wkps?  MrSinatra | 04/22/09
yeah, but  mswift@... | 04/27/09
Actually...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
You are way to high.  deowll | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  MrSinatra | 04/22/09
Mr. Sinatra is right  gary@... | 04/22/09
a desperate voice from an enfeebled UK...  gwaktek | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  1031982 | 04/22/09
What may be happening.  deowll | 04/22/09
Why so much?  mswift@... | 04/27/09
Whittaker is wrong  rkelly | 04/22/09
This article is wack and with a bunch of messed up facts.  unsivil_audio | 04/22/09
is NOT the same as stealing  ionbidon@... | 04/22/09
nice try  coffeeshark | 04/22/09
Lost sales = theft?  philculmer | 04/23/09
100% the same as theft.  Bruizer | 04/23/09
You make this too easy.  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
It's just not...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
It is 100% the same as stealing.  Bruizer | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  crabitha | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  alexh1111 | 04/22/09
Ya nailed it.  Breetai | 04/22/09
Uh...  quasilou | 04/22/09
Sure, it's...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Get a job!  ROBERTZ389@... | 04/22/09
Tell us, gramps...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
When anything becomes easily duplicatable...  GrizzledGeezer | 04/22/09
Exactly  quasilou | 04/22/09
I am an artist  davidhite | 04/22/09
Ridiculous  quasilou | 04/22/09
Depends  davidhite | 04/22/09
Huh?  quasilou | 04/22/09
You're not qualified to judge.  LeeC | 04/27/09
Why charge for the Originals?  tzcannon | 04/22/09
To keep them  davidhite | 04/22/09
Uh huh  fairportfan | 04/22/09
I work  davidhite | 04/22/09
Not a socialist.  bbonis@... | 04/23/09
As the cat in "Pogo" said...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Get a job!  ROBERTZ389@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  robe@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  macsie | 04/22/09
We're not stealng from you...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
I ALREADY paid them, stupid!  BigRonW | 05/17/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  williambill6@... | 04/22/09
Because it's a target audience thing  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Wow, Zack, you're an idiot!  quasilou | 04/22/09
Does an idiot spark so much typing?  TD2000 | 04/22/09
That's beside the point...  quasilou | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  patnjoeh@... | 04/22/09
I agree  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
What case are you refering to???  jsteff@... | 04/22/09
Fight back to make entertainment more affordable  josephmartins | 04/22/09
SOAP BOX  TD2000 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  redeyedeer@... | 04/22/09
Only...  fairportfan | 04/22/09
Used CDs  philculmer | 04/23/09
Software issues, too  allhaileris | 04/22/09
Sorry, but you're just plain ol' wrong  quasilou | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  kfortner51 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Kevin_z | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  illuzioner | 04/22/09
Look at it this way...  Musician2 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Slamaxe | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  rbethman@... | 04/22/09
Legal System  ozwes007@... | 04/22/09
Paul McCartneys unfair logic  cymru999 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  fett | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  jblairm | 04/22/09
Social Science students aren't taught to think?  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Kind of insulting  mdsock@... | 04/22/09
Not based on your blog...  Bruizer | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  ted.mccarty@... | 04/22/09
You are on to something here.  TD2000 | 04/22/09
Are You Nuts?  RoughWriter | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  TD2000 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Big Al Jano | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  TD2000 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  stephencmoore@... | 04/22/09
I think that would help  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Uh, supply and demand?  mdsock@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  redb99@... | 04/22/09
Build a better mousetrap  jparr | 04/22/09
Dead on  TD2000 | 04/22/09
Torrent 3.0  philculmer | 04/23/09
It's the Court, not the RIAA that is to blame  moxion | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  atari8bit@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Ronspruell | 04/22/09
Who pays the RIAA  philculmer | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  bob@... | 04/22/09
You'll be the judge ...  eschew | 04/22/09
opps .. typo and a msissed "NOT"  eschew | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  aidplus@... | 04/22/09
But it's not that easy (back then) to copy vinyl's  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
Ever hear of cassette tapes?  mdsock@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  jrector@... | 04/22/09
Check out the brain on Brad  TD2000 | 04/22/09
Not entirely true  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  boomboom1@... | 04/22/09
Want to stand up to big brother?  KellyRay1@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  quixel1 | 04/22/09
We should be able to turn this around a bit...  flared0ne | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  ginothek@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  splunge@... | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  chromeronin | 04/22/09
doing what?s right for the American people?  melekali | 04/22/09
Bush-like ?war of suing people?????  johannk | 04/22/09
Thanks For Pointing It Out!  CGMorvant74 | 04/22/09
Bush-like?  calabrese | 04/22/09
Amen johannk  Paul NY | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  CGMorvant74 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  CGMorvant74 | 04/22/09
Every hear of this service called GOOGLE?  tkepner | 04/22/09
No, Think Smaller....  CGMorvant74 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case  digitrog | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Amiga5 | 04/22/09
I Am In Your Boat, As Are Many Others  CGMorvant74 | 04/22/09
Dude -  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
The really funny thing is  AzuMao | 04/25/09
Can't Be Stopped!  Enorton42@... | 04/22/09
Students love their music, their videos, and often can?t afford to buy...  Bruizer | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Sid_Phillips | 04/22/09
I've stopped buying new music  rightwingnutter | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Hubbity Bubba | 04/22/09
I agree  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  fitch53 | 04/22/09
Bush-like?  mlibrescu4 | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  jackfred | 04/22/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  WAB6 | 04/22/09
Re: Piracy in general  Loggies | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  JelMin | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  tw914@... | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  schroder@... | 04/23/09
The bottom line  EzeComputer | 04/23/09
Sphincters?  e_caroline@... | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  john.foggitt@... | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Morti | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  birdmaniw | 04/23/09
Somebody has to take the fall  bbonis@... | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Farsite | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  rdworshak@... | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  royweard | 04/23/09
ZDNet has Liberal Bias  pizzaman7 | 04/23/09
So anyone who disaproves of Bush  AzuMao | 04/24/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  Eddy-ICUR12 | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  turboiceman | 04/23/09
Correction - It's Democrat-like suing  lmenningen | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  terryfritz2000 | 04/23/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  tabbym | 04/23/09
Re: Pirate Bay compared with Google and the "Old Media"  Ken Grush | 04/23/09
What do we do?  Hubbity Bubba | 04/24/09
Hmmmm...  nfhiggs@... | 04/24/09
Pirate Bay is wrong, illegal... and what does Bush have to do with it?  wardfarm | 04/24/09
Why should students be exempt from having to pay for what they enjoy?  Patanjali | 04/25/09
Stealing? Nope, been proved it isn't before...  nightbreedjtm@... | 04/27/09
I'm 39, and I think times have changed.  Hubbity Bubba | 04/29/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  hforman@... | 04/27/09
Strangely familiar...  spyro17@... | 04/28/09
RIAA can't win... the Genie is out of the bottle  mikifinaz1@... | 04/28/09
US Lowlife Will Keep Music Flowing On The Internet  gkiefferjfk2@... | 04/30/09
WHAT U DO NOT KNOW ABOUT when paying for music to air  gkiefferjfk2@... | 04/30/09
RE: Pirate Bay court case bad news for students  mccall1 | 05/03/09

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