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September 4th, 2009

If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?

Posted by Zack Whittaker @ 3:47 am

Categories: Productivity, Research, Security, Skills development, University, Workplaces

Tags: Education, Network, Council, USB Flash Drive, Virus, Networking, Zack Whittaker

Ealing Council, the local authority for a number of London boroughs, was infected by a virus which crippled the vast majority of the council’s network.

The damage knocked out the housing department, the library service, telephone network and others, according to the BBC, as a result of plugging in an infected flash drive on a networked computer. But this raises a question of those who are still not yet fully IT literate.

If you plug in a flash memory drive and it infects a network, who is to blame - the user who doesn’t know any better, or the IT staff responsible for the network?

Bruce Hughes from CNET seems to think it is those responsible for the network and the company. I’m inclined to agree.

In British (and I suspect in American) law, ignorance is not a defence. You cannot get away with ploughing someone in your car, reversing and going over them again because, “you didn’t realise murder was a crime”. If the judge said, “you’d forget your head if it wasn’t screwed on, you little scamp. Go on, go free!”, I would seriously wonder about the state of the justice system.

But in cases such as these, a legal aspect could easily be thrown into the equation. A bill reaching over £500,000 ($817k) needs to be pinned somewhere, and whether or not legal action could be taken is yet to be decided. At the end of the day, it will be the taxpayer who pays the brunt of the cost.

Even though the Conficker virus never “really” activated or caused damage per se, the proof of how powerful a virus can be in this day and age still exists. It infected as far wide as the French Navy, the German Bundeswehr, the UK Ministry of Defence, the UK Houses of Parliament and more universities than you could shake a stick at.

It is my professional opinion and belief that standard university network security is greater than the average security of businesses and corporate networks. As public machines on campus are all or often in buildings where the doors are opened with your university smart card, access is still limited to those within the establishment.

Not only that, in comparison to a local council or district governance, universities are themselves councils and governors of the campus. Students live and breathe on the campuses and the work that goes on within the network keeps the world ticking over - literally. For the fact they are all inter-connected in one way or another, in the UK at least, to limit spread of malware they have to be secure.

But ultimately it comes down to education, education and education: the do’s and don’ts of computing security. You may not get booted out of university for accidentally offloading a payload of electronic sewage, but you can bet your arse in the real world - you could easily get fired.

So, if a user’s flash drive infects a network, who is to blame?

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It's a tough question, from IT's point of view
Seems to me it's (potentially anyway) a situation where IT is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't. If the network is open enough that malware can infect it from a user's flash drive, it gets ... (Read the rest)
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I think the answer could be both are to blame...  MLHACK | 09/04/09
Let's try using some analogies...  i8thecat | 09/04/09
Flawed Analogies  WarhavenSC | 09/04/09
Your analogy is flawed.  brian775 | 09/07/09
Congratulation!  opacraig | 09/07/09
More info please  fcabral@... | 09/12/09
Lets assume you're completely wrong..  GetReal-mac.com | 09/08/09
What if the building was made of flammable material?  Mikael_z | 09/04/09
Yours is a weaker analogy.  ShadowGIATL | 09/06/09
wrong premise & deeply flawed logic  thx-1138_@... | 09/04/09
wrong premise & deeply flawed logic  shmget | 09/05/09
wrong premise & deeply flawed logic  Budster1 | 09/07/09
What if...  914four | 09/07/09
wrong premise & deeply flawed logic  Dcarm | 09/07/09
Some people on here...  ShadowGIATL | 09/06/09
Very Simply  fnewtz@... | 09/07/09
Thinking (if any) is flawed  mavr1c | 09/07/09
As already stated, ignorance is no defence in law.  chaz15 | 09/07/09
disappointing and unecessary ending  chiphh | 09/07/09
Person Responsible?  vmeck@... | 09/07/09
But to establish legal liability, the user ...  mwagner@... | 09/07/09
Hard to blame the user...  electro@... | 09/07/09
Disease is the proper analogy  minstrelmike@... | 09/08/09
I have to agree.  pdickey043@... | 09/06/09
Well I have to Dis-Agree Completely!  vmeck@... | 09/07/09
Blame  Louis Ross Focke | 09/07/09
I have to agree  Budster1 | 09/07/09
Far too often  Dr. John | 09/07/09
No Dice!  bernalillo | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Capt_Sparky | 09/04/09
You are to blame since you used the connection  MLHACK | 09/04/09
Not so simple: who is to blame, who gets blamed.  zdnet@... | 09/07/09
Good point  Headspin | 09/07/09
Neither is to blame  mwagner@... | 09/08/09
This is a no-brainer, it's Microsoft's fault!  sismoc | 09/04/09
Microsoft's fault?  Bilmekanikeren | 09/04/09
Or the "good old admin"?  GuidingLight | 09/04/09
Why so darn easy to infect in the first place?  Mikael_z | 09/04/09
Why am I notified of new security patches on my Linux box everyday then?  daftkey | 09/04/09
Patches != infections  Mikael_z | 09/04/09
According to the person I was responding to...  daftkey | 09/05/09
Oh yes..  shadowfyr55@... | 09/05/09
True enough.. but...  daftkey | 09/05/09
What logic?  mavr1c | 09/07/09
So all Windows users.....  chaz15 | 09/07/09
duh huhhhh  paul_bruford@... | 09/07/09
Re; b) autorun was enabled for flash drives  hkommedal | 09/07/09
I can't agree.  ye | 09/07/09
duh huhhhh  shmget | 09/07/09
Surely those same people would want to infiltrate microsoft.com  ye | 09/07/09
You say that, but...  Zogg | 09/05/09
If they used Linux, this wouldn't be an issue  Wintel BSOD | 09/04/09
yess except..  paul_bruford@... | 09/07/09
Really?  TedKraan | 09/07/09
Well they could always get the domain admin drunk...  Wintel BSOD | 09/07/09
It would work the same way it does in Windows.  ye | 09/07/09
vulenerabilities?  TedKraan | 09/07/09
Alert: Linux coolaid drinker!  jgod | 09/07/09
@jgod: I read it as sarcasm. nt  ye | 09/07/09
The alternate reality of...  Wintel BSOD | 09/07/09
It prompts you to run....  ShadowGIATL | 09/06/09
Why?  opacraig | 09/07/09
Grow up  MadWhiteHatter | 09/07/09
Autorun is not on by default anymore (nt)  mwagner@... | 09/08/09
It's called Network Access Control  Takalok | 09/04/09
People need to be responsable for their own actions  MLHACK | 09/04/09
That's why they need to be educated...  Wintel BSOD | 09/04/09
The risks are too high in this case  garethhowell | 09/07/09
I agree with MLHACK, it could be either...  DevJonny | 09/04/09
I agree with you TOTALLY!!!!  jimgrigg@... | 09/04/09
Bravo! You're a prime case study example  MultiMuse | 09/09/09
Resilience  honeymonster | 09/04/09
Budget  TedKraan | 09/07/09
Yep, you got that right on all 3 points.  MultiMuse | 09/09/09
Oh for ....  linux4u | 09/04/09
Hear HEAR!..  daftkey | 09/05/09
Both steps are brain dead simple to implement.  tracy anne | 09/05/09
Re; disabled autorun on USB devices. Thats a fairly straight forward . .  hkommedal | 09/07/09
Stupid question. The user of the flash disk of course.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 09/04/09
The virus writer is the primary person to blame.  Dr_Zinj | 09/04/09
Interesting... Take  MLHACK | 09/04/09
No Microsoft is to blame  tracy anne | 09/05/09
And what should they do when doing this?  ye | 09/06/09
what ms should do...  paul_bruford@... | 09/07/09
We should blame IBM...  ShadowGIATL | 09/06/09
Do you blame the builder if someone breaks into your house?  Dr_Zinj | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  cmrdecker@... | 09/04/09
Who is interested in protecting the system?  zclayton3 | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Loverock Davidson | 09/04/09
Finally Thank you Loverock For nailed In.  MLHACK | 09/04/09
That, where Windows is concerned  tracy anne | 09/05/09
Generalization inaccurate about varying security  HollywoodDog | 09/04/09
Which is proably true...  MLHACK | 09/04/09
More information is needed. But I would tend to say those responsibile...  ye | 09/04/09
Not the user  unredeemed | 09/04/09
Well we see you side with stupidity....  MLHACK | 09/04/09
flashdrive vs Internet viruses  bret307@... | 09/04/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  kamandi_z | 09/04/09
There is plenty of blame to go around  BobinAtlanta | 09/04/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  jimgrigg@... | 09/04/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  shjeeper | 09/04/09
If blame must be ascribed, then several share this blame.  aharper@... | 09/04/09
Well said  thx-1138_@... | 09/04/09
Thanks!  aharper@... | 09/07/09
who's to blame?  tracy anne | 09/04/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  shmget | 09/05/09
If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  spacecase2 | 09/05/09
Wrong  tracy anne | 09/05/09
Not according to a couple of security researchers.  ye | 09/06/09
Yes I read that.  tracy anne | 09/06/09
But not as easy as, say, OS X.  ye | 09/06/09
I would put it the way of the link..  JCitizen | 09/07/09
That would merely place it on equal footing as Windows.  ye | 09/07/09
hmmm  paul_bruford@... | 09/08/09
spoken like a true network admin  paul_bruford@... | 09/08/09
The anology you used makes ZERO sense.  mavr1c | 09/09/09
shouldn't be possible anyway  macrophage | 09/05/09
100% IT's fault..  daftkey | 09/05/09
It can't do it all...  JCitizen | 09/07/09
Duck!  TedKraan | 09/07/09
still ITs fault  bklooste | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  pakaka1i@... | 09/05/09
Wrong analogy  tracy anne | 09/06/09
Wrong.  ye | 09/06/09
In fact  tracy anne | 09/06/09
You're unqualified to comment on this subject.  ye | 09/06/09
while it is true  tracy anne | 09/06/09
Wrong.  ye | 09/07/09
I suspect there's more to it than that really  Zogg | 09/07/09
@Zogg: Skilled isn't the word I'd use. But...  ye | 09/07/09
Weird - maybe it's an API thing then.  Zogg | 09/07/09
@Zogg: It's not an API thing.  ye | 09/07/09
Sounds like an API extension to me...  Zogg | 09/07/09
@Zogg: It has nothing to do with APIs.  ye | 09/07/09
The API is whatever MS defines it to be!  Zogg | 09/08/09
@Zogg: Clearly you do not know what APIs are.  ye | 09/08/09
The Real World vs your Computer Science laboratory...  Zogg | 09/08/09
Your comments.....  Lester Young | 09/07/09
INCORRECT  chaz15 | 09/07/09
Just turn off autoplay  LarryPTL | 09/06/09
You forgot Microsoft  dogbreath1 | 09/06/09
Indeed  tracy anne | 09/06/09
What is a desktop operating system? What's a server operating system?  ye | 09/06/09
The difference, if I may...  aharper@... | 09/08/09
Hehe.. True  TedKraan | 09/07/09
Microsoft at least does security updates  DonBurnett | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  shmget | 09/06/09
more smoke & mirrors..  thx-1138_@... | 09/06/09
FALSE PREMISE IN QUESTION. Blame the organization!  archetuthus | 09/07/09
Me is the man to be blame  hifly.liu@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  robertarmstrong@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  dasprem@... | 09/07/09
Blame your network Admin, because Microsoft let's you disalllow USB KEYS  DonBurnett | 09/07/09
USB keys are a tool  EuroWard | 09/07/09
Alternatively  TedKraan | 09/07/09
Or easier...  ahumeniy | 09/07/09
Re; You could just turn off autorun.  hkommedal | 09/07/09
I have never had this happen.  ShadowGIATL | 09/08/09
Don't be silly  DonBurnett | 09/07/09
That is no solution...  bernalillo | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  johnedwardhall | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  szczyrk44 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  paulhysen@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  nobillgates | 09/07/09
The USB user has some responsibility!  chaz15 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  john.foggitt@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  tomb21266 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  waynemethorst | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  joshdube@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  kpnaidu | 09/07/09
Council, IT department or USB User?  chaz15 | 09/07/09
You probably never read the EULA then  TedKraan | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  lmwaluku | 09/07/09
As already stated, ignorance is no defence in law.  chaz15 | 09/07/09
Wrong on ALL counts.  mavr1c | 09/07/09
NO its you whose wrong.  chaz15 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  jim.harvey@... | 09/07/09
So do you block access to the web?  EuroWard | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  mdonescu1 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  ahumeniy | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Thguns | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Aboleyn | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  syhprum1@... | 09/07/09
Probably, neither are directly responsible: it's a policy issue  garethhowell | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  jd@... | 09/07/09
RE: Both of course  the.bogmonster@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  birdmaniw | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  lls451 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  lenguado | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  jrdebug@... | 09/07/09
Blame? Neither are to Blame!  vmeck@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  provnet@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  wolfmaster | 09/07/09
um, antivirus?  pgit | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Rick_S1 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  timcat | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Jeff Tyler | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  steve@... | 09/07/09
Who's to blame?  Johnny Brandie | 09/07/09
IT Department!!!  concrete lamposts | 09/07/09
intresting  rupaa62 | 09/07/09
A little, draconian, don't you think?  mwagner@... | 09/07/09
Hang two pelts on the fence as a lesson to others  rdcook01@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  ronn39 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  oicur12ok | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  bobmonica@... | 09/07/09
Network administrators are to blame  mwagner@... | 09/07/09
To blame is Both  rupaa62 | 09/07/09
Both  petermat@... | 09/07/09
Who to Blame  MrLucasBrice | 09/07/09
Who to Blame  Darr247 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  mikefulton | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  fjdole@... | 09/07/09
100% the administrators  rarsa | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  jdeerobins | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  gunner221 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  gunner221 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  daves1646 | 09/07/09
Been There, Done That  geoffrey.seymour | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  shively@... | 09/07/09
The universe is digital  BALTHOR | 09/07/09
Primary fault to Sys Admin  lipl1 | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  dickmac-zdnet@... | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  cnjwebtvnet@... | 09/07/09
Network Security in general...  RealAusTech | 09/07/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  seh1970@... | 09/07/09
Blame the Virus Maker!!!  GeneticFreak | 09/07/09
Who takes the decision to run the malware?  cquirke | 09/07/09
Don't blame the virus maker!! - GET EVEN  robertvdm@... | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  wehrconnected | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  mb4574 | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  infoz | 09/08/09
the anti-virus that couldn't  ironfist03 | 09/08/09
Lets stop the blame game, and analyze how it was able to infect the USB dev  jacksojm | 09/08/09
Software & Hardware manufacturers to blame!!  hanamc@... | 09/08/09
Blame Game  oldbaritone | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  Hans Schmidt | 09/08/09
Complaints?  wjgrimm | 09/08/09
Administrators shouldn't be setting policy.  ye | 09/08/09
Hmmmm...  wjgrimm | 09/08/09
They may be clueless but they are the leaders.  ye | 09/08/09
What?  wjgrimm | 09/08/09
Like it or not they are the business leaders.  ye | 09/08/09
Input?  wjgrimm | 09/08/09
Look, you can argue this all you want.  ye | 09/08/09
RE: Here is what I think!  wjgrimm | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  dave.cason@... | 09/08/09
dont play with them  infoz | 09/08/09
Security is Everyone's Responsibility  shenry1307 | 09/08/09
Precisely!  aharper@... | 09/08/09
The Organization/IT Dept.  DErentzen | 09/08/09
I don't think this can be wrapped in a neat package.  rod.boggess@... | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  peter.j.boyles@... | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  8Limes | 09/08/09
A simple and effective remedy  aspir8or | 09/08/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  simon.hacketpain@... | 09/11/09
RE: If a flash drive infects a network, who's to blame?  therealmichael@... | 09/11/09
It's a tough question, from IT's point of view  LeonBA | 10/15/09

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