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November 9th, 2008

Kicking Internet pirates off the web

Posted by Zack Whittaker @ 11:07 pm

Categories: Discussion, Legal and political, Multimedia, Piracy and file-sharing, Social networking

Tags: Web, Internet, Piracy, Business Operations, Corporate Law, Zack Whittaker

Boujourrrrrr. We iz takinn yurr internetz. Le boof!We take having the Internet for granted. Wherever we go, whether we have our laptops or our tablet devices, even our mobile phones, we can connect to ’some form’ of the world wide web. We can check Facebook on the Tube, we can send emails to our colleagues when we’re in a Starbucks having our caramel and peppermint mocha latte with a triple shot of espresso, heavy on the whipped cream, with a skinny whip frap pour whole milk on top with a couple of shakes of cinnamon, or instant message our friends when we’re at the university library.

(If anyone actually orders that drink at a Starbucks with proof - you get serious brownie points)

But the French government is closer than ever to getting Internet pirates kicked off the web permanently. You may think, “pfft, sure, they bloody well deserve it, the thieving little gits”. Think twice. Whilst the French president Nicolas Sarkozy calls this, “a decisive moment for the future of a civilised Internet”, it makes me think whether he’s just annoyed that the popularity of such a common medium is what makes his incredibly hot wife more popular than him.[citation needed]

Nevertheless, some consider having access to the Internet “an essential commodity” and that blocking access would conflict with “civil liberties and human rights”. The French think this. You get three strikes, warnings which are emailed and posted to you, and if you break those three strikes, you’ll be barred from using or accessing the world wide web.

Thankfully, the rest of the European Parliament have rejected such calls to extend this across Europe, whilst Sweden is slowly advancing its way into passing a similar law to the French. But have they all really thought about it?

Without the Internet, which in essence, means having a device connected to a wider network of computers, people banned may not be able to be hooked up to monitoring machines in hospitals, have full access to cellphones, in certain countries it would mean no more voting, and perhaps not even being able to pay your taxes. I stress to add at this point, I say this in theory.

Joni Mitchell on my iPod. Yay!

So many of us pirate without necessarily realising it. As I’ve said before, the legal jargon isn’t easy to understand to the ordinary lay person, and natural law of allowing your little sister to burn a copy of a CD you bought is illegal - for example. Why is it? She’s my sister. She can have Joni Mitchell on her iPod if she so chooses to.

So what’s your take on it? Opinions, thoughts, ramblings, ravings - throw me whatever you’ve got, because I personally think the occasional heavy fine will deter those who pirate knowingly, willingly and without due care or attention. Talk to me.

Zack Whittaker, the youngest in the ZDNet network, is a British student at the University of Kent, Canterbury, where he studies BA (Hons) Criminology and Social Policy. His insight into the next-generation is unique and first-hand, sharing his knowledge of the here and now but more so what's next and how to get there.

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Huh?
The Amiga users were alongside the ST users as being some of the biggest pirates around, and the user groups were the main places games and utilities were traded. There were probably more utilities to... (Read the rest)
Posted by: LeeC Posted on: 02/18/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Piracy  grumble@... | 11/10/08
I agree  NamelessFor Now | 11/10/08
So your solution is to steal it?  cornpie | 11/10/08
Here's how its different.  Kevin Derby | 11/10/08
That's total BS ...  rebrinsonmd@... | 11/10/08
That's total BS  majoritywhip | 11/11/08
The problem I have with that statement is  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Every free copy costs the artist a lost opportunity to sell. nt  T1Oracle | 02/16/09
What a crock of ... NT  Timpraetor | 11/10/08
Steal?  Keithgl | 11/10/08
And another difference  AzuMao | 11/10/08
Silly Argument  wjgrimm | 11/10/08
Very Intellectual ...  rebrinsonmd@... | 11/10/08
copy and share the broadcast-is that a violation  markdean | 11/10/08
No And Yes  Cardhu | 11/10/08
According to RIAA, yes  library assistant | 11/11/08
The Big Diffrence  Wingman84 | 11/13/08
Knowledge is your friend  trent1 | 02/18/09
RE: So your solution is to steal it?  claymann39@... | 11/10/08
Warped mentality ...  rebrinsonmd@... | 11/10/08
Overly simplistic  cymru999 | 11/10/08
Ignorance of Capitalism  Bob C User | 11/10/08
Warped mentality ...  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
Since when does Michael Moore freely share...  qdunder | 11/13/08
You are very charitable...  arminw | 11/10/08
Question  library assistant | 11/11/08
Not a very good analogy  Crestview | 11/10/08
Lousy analogy  Cayble | 11/10/08
I agree..  SHvar | 11/10/08
It's amazing to me the lengths people will go...  qdunder | 11/13/08
Quite abig difference!  follerie2001@... | 11/10/08
Nope... but it's not the same thing!  Kostaghus | 11/11/08
It's Not Trivial  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Dopey logic  RedM3 | 11/10/08
Free Market?  wjgrimm | 11/10/08
No argument from me  RedM3 | 11/10/08
student pricing  bret307@... | 11/10/08
student pricing  lacunae | 11/10/08
Exactly right  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Dopey?  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
The difference in price  tm2guy@... | 11/10/08
Stealing/Pirateing/wrong and right/good and bad  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
It's still slavery  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Put Yourself in the Other Person's Shoes  Bob C User | 11/11/08
The extra costs...  pappa-t | 11/10/08
Millionaires!  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
We owe a debt to Gates and Jobs  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Education  library assistant | 11/10/08
expensive new design software  Popsprice | 11/11/08
Who said Community College?  library assistant | 11/11/08
Maybe if  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Add to that  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Microsoft would not exist without piracy  Barry ZA | 11/10/08
Piracy was the Key  Headspin | 11/10/08
I remember in my Amiga User's Groups  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
Huh?  LeeC | 02/18/09
Steal what? They played it for me!  sfaid | 11/10/08
$20 bucks for an Import?  library assistant | 11/10/08
Its unworkable and actually an illegal law  deuxglass | 11/11/08
how much do we know about French laws?  library assistant | 11/11/08
Napoleonic Law  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
How many times must we pay?  Barry ZA | 11/11/08
technically, yes  officerbill | 11/11/08
Laws not retroactive  Barry ZA | 11/11/08
technicially ?  tew45@... | 11/12/08
How many times indeed ?  tew45@... | 11/12/08
A-Rrrrrrrrrr  pokendeye@... | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  ebudae@... | 11/10/08
They won't realise until  AzuMao | 11/10/08
Lame excuse for pirating  adwilliams2 | 11/10/08
Read his post  /A\V/ | 11/10/08
Re: Lame excuse for pirating - "You can do the same things with Pandora"  martin.okle@... | 11/10/08
that's an excuse not a reason to pirate  library assistant | 11/11/08
How would it be enforced?  Spats30 | 11/10/08
Gotta love redefintion of words  masonwheeler | 11/10/08
Careful...  cornpie | 11/10/08
Be vewy vewy caeweful..  AzuMao | 11/10/08
The real thing to be afraid of...  cornpie | 11/10/08
Laws only affect law-abiding people  Barry ZA | 11/11/08
censorship sucks  adr5@... | 11/10/08
Censorship does indeed suck  nancyjones36507@... | 11/10/08
but this isn't censorship, it's overkill.  jgkov | 11/10/08
Actually, branding a person a "pirate" and cutting them  Mahegan | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Snauman | 11/10/08
Well, actually, the French are better stalking horses  Mahegan | 11/10/08
Yeah, it was pretty silly  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Billybob115 | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  thoseopps | 11/10/08
So sometimes stealing is justified?  nancyjones36507@... | 11/10/08
So sometimes stealing is justified?  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  zerowaster | 11/10/08
That's happening now  nancyjones36507@... | 11/10/08
Could call that RIAA equalisation!  Mahegan | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  roberts_theodore@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  david602@... | 11/10/08
Hateful  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
Modern marketing is all about packaging  Mahegan | 11/10/08
without knowing it you are establishing sensible priorites  cymru999 | 11/10/08
I agree with you!  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  cgrosse23 | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  david602@... | 11/10/08
Nevermind the fact.....  Vampyrick | 11/10/08
Making people afraid  Olorin_z | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  boccabellad@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  terraterm | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Olorin_z | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  dialfred | 11/10/08
Depends on the definition of piracy.  shanedr | 11/10/08
So is....  Vampyrick | 11/10/08
Hm... So could we  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
For Piracy, I meant.  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  NonmaskableInt | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  gsloman@... | 11/10/08
THE RIAA HAS taken some things to extremes  Mahegan | 11/10/08
Suspicions  Notas Badoff | 11/10/08
RE: tshinnic  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 11/11/08
Step 1: Ban the pirates.  Vampyrick | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  muddbugz@... | 11/10/08
Dear artist, what are your views on  Mahegan | 11/10/08
Computing wouldn't exist as we know it today without hackers  Silex | 11/10/08
France's intentions are not really about piracy  Mahegan | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  mojoflyer | 11/10/08
A Mercedes Benz? you jest surely  Ashtonian | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  johnwadelong@... | 11/10/08
Kicking Internet pirates off the web  jumbojim@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  danbak | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  johnwadelong@... | 11/10/08
LOL...controlling French youth  Bill_77094 | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  rss0152 | 11/10/08
Should a person who violates a parking code three times  Mahegan | 11/10/08
Should a person bitten 3 times by a rattlesnake  Timpraetor | 11/10/08
What's with the swipe at Americans??  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  VaugCam | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Timpraetor | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  vaughanm | 11/10/08
"civil liberties and human rights???  Crestview | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  DWFRIEND@... | 11/10/08
Kicking DWFRIEND off the blog...  tgilbert@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  bobinbc | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  a.vande.goor@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  dfarrich@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  a.vande.goor@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Jane.Malloy | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  DWFRIEND@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  catmedia | 11/10/08
costs of intellectual properties  pfyearwood | 11/10/08
a few thoughts...  michael.tindall@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Dee Carter | 11/10/08
It's not stealing  Rubix_z | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  pebear | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Rubix_z | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  BigJohnLg | 11/10/08
They are kicking the wrong people off!!!  sbf95070 | 11/10/08
They are kicking the wrong people off!!!  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  firesoul | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  mabho | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  sa.martin@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  hesser@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  huttyputt | 11/10/08
Let the punishment fit the crime  bmrosen45@... | 11/10/08
According to the DMCA, RIAA and MPAA we All are pirates!  joseph.escue@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  wizardgdog@... | 11/10/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  a24kgoldphoto | 11/10/08
Internet? Necessary?  pico_D | 11/11/08
A Black "Cloud"  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  sail2port | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  paul_bruford@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  duhovnik | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  deuxglass | 11/11/08
More Gestapo!!! and Gestapo-like tactics  vilppuu@... | 11/11/08
I agree totally!  deuxglass | 11/11/08
a bad law I mean!  deuxglass | 11/11/08
THe Internet the last frontier of free speech. Agree 1000 %  bubasan | 11/11/08
Scream it from the rooftops, vilppuu  hiraghm@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  onclejon@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Vortch | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Mr Sensible | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  bubasan | 11/11/08
Only 1 Thing To Be Said  vcgray | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  fryboy60@... | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Mjr. Dzaster | 11/11/08
Trying to figure out what part of wikipedia you stole that from, Zack  heres_johnny | 11/11/08
It won't works  Gradius2 | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  maximara | 11/11/08
I like to steal music, movies and software  majoritywhip | 11/11/08
Kick spammers off first  kokuryu | 11/11/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Rooooo | 11/11/08
well Sarkozy will learn the hard way  Quebec-french | 11/11/08
Kick The pirates off the internet  redsky999@... | 11/11/08
do you have any idea  Quebec-french | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  danbak | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Jacobus7 | 11/12/08
Permanent  zclayton2 | 11/12/08
Piracy  jdc1020 | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  poetdowns | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  pokendeye@... | 11/12/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  ejwsrw@... | 11/13/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Two4tejas | 11/13/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  Two4tejas | 11/13/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  bizsprite@... | 11/14/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  LordUthyr | 11/15/08
RE: Kicking Internet pirates off the web  charlie_2m@... | 11/16/08

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