They should just drop it
eb276 | 12/19/07
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Let's not beat around the bush here...
Qbt | 12/19/07
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That's right case more about helping Opera
otaddy | 12/19/07
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MORONIC SENTENCE OF THE YEAR
theo_durcan | 12/22/07
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Totally agree...and I'll add
rramirez@... | 12/20/07
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SPOT ON!!! Opera = Sour Grapes. (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/20/07
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oh yawn, fanboy
deaf_e_kate | 12/20/07
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Dumbest thing I ever seen
Jedeye | 12/20/07
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wmv is not a standard
seanferd | 12/20/07
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Neither is the Skype protocol
John Carroll | 12/20/07
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Apples to Oranges
doug@... | 12/21/07
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FF isn't integrated...
jason_thewebmannetwork | 12/21/07
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Sorry, WMV is a standard
retardboy | 12/20/07
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WMV is not a standard
madfenris@... | 12/21/07
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Do you really want to go there?
retardboy | 12/21/07
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RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
nakedfish | 12/19/07
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RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
retardboy | 12/19/07
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Oh wow retard boy, Microsoft shows a video where IE 8 passed the acid2 test
Non_Zealot | 12/19/07
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Really?
Chustar | 12/19/07
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I don't know - with Ballmer throwing chairs...
JCitizen | 12/20/07
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pfff
seanferd | 12/20/07
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Is that a fact? How would everyone
GuidingLight | 12/19/07
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Ha! Ha! That's Funny
jimfraley | 12/20/07
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Then don't use Microsoft products
NonZealot | 12/20/07
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RE: Then don't use Microsoft products
black-jack | 12/20/07
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Why do you think I care who uses MS products?
NonZealot | 12/20/07
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If you don't US MS product.. BUG OFF..
ursulus | 01/23/08
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Microsoft does have something to offer,,,
Non_Zealot | 12/20/07
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Well, looks like
xuniL_z | 12/20/07
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The probles with MS-inflicted Browser-fault goes
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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I am just saying
GuidingLight | 12/22/07
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Microsoft Cheating?
plovelace@... | 12/20/07
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Why the video
laura.b | 12/20/07
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Microsoft said from the beggining of the IE8 project
xuniL_z | 12/20/07
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compliant with what?
seanferd | 12/20/07
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Just maybe
Update victim | 12/20/07
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This case makes little sense
Heatlesssun1 | 12/19/07
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A reach??
Necrolin | 12/19/07
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Calm Down
Chustar | 12/19/07
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calm as can be
Necrolin | 12/19/07
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.
retardboy | 12/19/07
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History
seanferd | 12/20/07
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No, it isn't.
retardboy | 12/20/07
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Revisionist history
theo_durcan | 12/22/07
|
   
Don't blame the messenger
NanoProgrammer | 12/20/07
|
    
What?
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
   
This won't help though...
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
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That is entirely too good a point to pass up
seanferd | 12/20/07
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Granting legal priviledge does NOT level the playing field
toddo12 | 12/21/07
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Thank you
NanoProgrammer | 12/21/07
|
  
What financial victory
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
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How is he "worked up" (NT)
seanferd | 12/20/07
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really, can't be standard unless a goverment...
DanLM | 12/19/07
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so vote!
shis-ka-bob | 12/20/07
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You are missing the point
seanferd | 12/20/07
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As a reminder:
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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Sorry ! Came out WRONG.
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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Wow
toddo12 | 12/21/07
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Great to see Opera keeping Microsofts feet to the fire. They will drag
DonnieBoy | 12/19/07
|

Are you now you are contridicting yourself?
GuidingLight | 12/19/07
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Man, you are making me cry. Poor Microsoft having to move their butt and
DonnieBoy | 12/19/07
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They are truely amazing, then
laura.b | 12/20/07
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Addition
laura.b | 12/20/07
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They have been working for over two years on IE8
easson | 12/20/07
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That was my point
laura.b | 12/20/07
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Laura, lot of internal politics there
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
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I agree
laura.b | 12/20/07
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Opera is exactly like the folks who stand outside of the Today Show...
Confused by religion | 12/20/07
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You do not understand. Microsoft has been sitting on this for some time now
DonnieBoy | 12/20/07
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Um, no they didn't. MS announced IE 8 BEFORE Opera filed
DevGuy_z | 12/20/07
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Umm, they work 2 years on something they don't want?
MWPollard | 12/20/07
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Do you genuinely believe what you are saying?
laura.b | 12/20/07
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I see your usual insider tips are working again...
Confused by religion | 12/20/07
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Come on guys, they may have announced IE8, but, they would NOT have been in
DonnieBoy | 12/20/07
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Don't act dumb DB
eb276 | 12/20/07
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Oh yeah they must had a separate dll for compatibility mode
DevGuy_z | 12/20/07
|
   
Don't feed the trolls
KTLA | 12/21/07
|
    
You're right
laura.b | 12/26/07
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You FAILED to answer his question
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/20/07
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The EU is a joke anyway.
evilkillerwhale@... | 12/20/07
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So the EU is a joke because
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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He probably meant
laura.b | 12/21/07
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...are regarded here to be laughable?
theo_durcan | 12/22/07
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laura.b, that is why....
mdsmedia | 12/22/07
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@pablo
laura.b | 12/26/07
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@mdsmedia
laura.b | 12/26/07
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You, once again, did not answer the question
GuidingLight | 12/22/07
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Opera fails the acid2 test on the Archos 605
NonZealot | 12/19/07
|

Even on Archos
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
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So Opera gets to pick when it is compliant and when it isn't?
NonZealot | 12/20/07
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Message has been deleted.
Non_Zealot | 12/20/07
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I realize you lack...
xuniL_z | 12/20/07
|
  
Learn about the subject
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
   
I know plenty about the subject
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
    
Ok, got it
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
     
I don't feel like a big loser
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
     
I was talking of the general web
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
     
The "loser" thing
seanferd | 12/20/07
|
    
Oh and by the way
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
  
When text taken from a html-page or
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

Question
seanferd | 12/20/07
|
 
Mobile content provider?
NonZealot | 12/21/07
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Yea, well, last year "you people" told me how great Vista was going to be
zaine_ridling | 12/19/07
|

Exactly correct
Don Collins | 12/20/07
|
 
Even shorter...
MWPollard | 12/20/07
|
  
But obviously that's not enough...
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
   
What that is partially about is
seanferd | 12/20/07
|

THE BIG LIE??
Franciscus101 | 12/20/07
|

NOT a BIG LIE. Just a lot overstated.
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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FF 2.0.0.11 Not Compliant Either....
hamster0914 | 12/19/07
|

FF
seanferd | 12/20/07
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Just Freakin' untie IE from the OS MS!!!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 12/20/07
|

Suggestions
laura.b | 12/20/07
|
 
I love it when people make sense and think before writing!
patrykg | 12/20/07
|
  
Windows Update
soonerproud | 12/20/07
|
 
"Tied" is not the same as "bundled"
Ole Man | 12/20/07
|
  
I'll go with that
laura.b | 12/20/07
|
  
re: "Tied" is not the same as "bundled"
M.R. Kennedy | 12/20/07
|
   
Then why whine about it?
Ole Man | 12/20/07
|
    
re: Then why whine about it?
M.R. Kennedy | 12/20/07
|
     
Microsoft sells Windows twice
Ole Man | 12/21/07
|
     
OleMan: MS sells Windows twice
NonZealot | 12/21/07
|
     
NonZealot
Ole Man | 12/21/07
|
  
I am truely impressed.
xuniL_z | 12/20/07
|
   
Join the Kennedy whine team
Ole Man | 12/20/07
|
 
Unlike Microsoft's Internet Explorer, Apple's Safari can be deleted
Non_Zealot | 12/20/07
|
  
Okay. Done. Now what?
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
   
Try that with explorer.exe
seanferd | 12/20/07
|
    
Explorer.exe is not IE
douglash | 12/20/07
|
 
It's not what's being asked
MacCanuck | 12/20/07
|
  
How do you remove PDF support from OS X?
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
   
Nice red herrings
MacCanuck | 12/20/07
|
    
Reread
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
    
PS You didn't answer a single one of my questions
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
  
You know
laura.b | 12/21/07
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I applaud you laura.b
samoanbiscuit@... | 12/22/07
|
 
Bundling vs integration
seanferd | 12/20/07
|
 
Message has been deleted.
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 12/20/07
|
  
Try this:
laura.b | 12/21/07
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It is NOT a problem that windows comes with a
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

You are correct
jimfraley | 12/20/07
|
 
Mozilla was able to understand Microsoft's published interface
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
  
Not the same...
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|

ABSOLUTELY NOT
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/20/07
|
 
You speak of these Vast Majority as if you really knew them
Non_Zealot | 12/20/07
|
  
Get real!
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
  
vast majority
toddo12 | 12/21/07
|
   
opera
toddo12 | 12/21/07
|

I, for one, AM happy with IE in the OS
Confused by religion | 12/20/07
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I think Opera should drop its complaint really
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|

Bull
Thore | 12/20/07
|
 
Ok
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
 
These standards are not the law
soonerproud | 12/20/07
|
  
Good God, why would we want a law?
seanferd | 12/20/07
|
  
The EU HAS the legal right AND obligation
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|
   
W3C standards are not the rules
soonerproud | 12/20/07
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RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
bytehead@... | 12/20/07
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Opera should definitely drop standards part
MWPollard | 12/20/07
|

This is not a lawsuit. It is a complaint to a governing body (EU) NT
soonerproud | 12/20/07
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free competition based on product only not monopoly
panrio | 12/20/07
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RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
cpr2345 | 12/20/07
|

Acid test is a red herring
shis-ka-bob | 12/20/07
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Bundling? Really antitrust-worthy?
MWPollard | 12/20/07
|

The performance advantages
MWPollard | 12/20/07
|
 
So you like the integration. Does that include when
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

US Appeals court said "Harm vs Benefit"
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/20/07
|
 
EC said has the same view
TheTruthisOutThere@... | 12/20/07
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Plain and simple, Opera is a dead horse
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/20/07
|

Oh, man, don't say that!
laura.b | 12/20/07
|
 
Opera Fails You?
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
  
You should really be hating Windows then
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
   
Lots of exceptions
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
    
You are one tolerant person
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|
     
Nope
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
  
As in
laura.b | 12/21/07
|

that is silly
shis-ka-bob | 12/20/07
|
 
Market Share
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
  
They do not make IE for *nix and therefore
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

YOU would hope so, but
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
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Firefox 3 doesn't even pass it perfectly
plovelace@... | 12/20/07
|

so what?
shis-ka-bob | 12/20/07
|
 
About why not the most dominant software shop in
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

Opera isn't going for Mozilla its going for Microsoft
Boot_Agnostic | 12/22/07
|

Acid2
harlownetball@... | 01/14/08
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RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
ra_west@... | 12/20/07
|
Safari isn't a major/minor browser?
evilkillerwhale@... | 12/20/07
|
er...
evilkillerwhale@... | 12/20/07
|
Pursue
rarsa | 12/20/07
|
As far as competitors go, Opera will never say yes, its concluded
Boot_Agnostic | 12/20/07
|
This whole thing is ridiculous!
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|

So about point #2. It is OK for the other 20% to have
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|
 
But...
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/21/07
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If IE8 isn't enough, Opera versions need update
RDrr | 12/20/07
|

Learn to differentiate
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|

Go to older versions of Opera and find that they do
hkommedal | 12/20/07
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Stop Being Pawns
David@... | 12/20/07
|
Apple OS X
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|

Safari is an application
Update victim | 12/20/07
|
 
Yes but...
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
  
And when Bob next door tells him to try another
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|

Watch for replies that attempt to deflect your point
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
 
Thanks
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
 
It is NOT a lawsuit !
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|
RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
Update victim | 12/20/07
|
I bet Opera's being paid under the table to pursue MS
pcguy777 | 12/20/07
|

So, who is paying them? (nt)
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 12/20/07
|
"Now that Microsoft has passed the Acid2 Browser test," what?
james.faction | 12/20/07
|

This is not an anti-trust case
soonerproud | 12/20/07
|
The real issue is
soonerproud | 12/20/07
|

I think out of all of the points you have indicated
nilotpal_c | 12/20/07
|

About 3. If you go to
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|
 
Can you
soonerproud | 12/20/07
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Thank you, that is what I was trying to say
DanLM | 12/20/07
|

grrr, I need to learn to post correctly under the proper thread
DanLM | 12/20/07
|

I agree with you about the government
Ole Man | 12/21/07
|
 
Huh??
toddo12 | 12/21/07
|
  
Halloween IV: When Software Things Were Rotten
Ole Man | 12/22/07
|
 
@ Old Troll
M.R. Kennedy | 12/22/07
|
  
Name, Fame, and Guru Game
Ole Man | 12/22/07
|
Opera should see not drop this suite
tracy anne | 12/20/07
|

ODF is a totally different issue
NonZealot | 12/20/07
|
 
It is not anti-competition laws it is PRO competition
hkommedal | 12/20/07
|
  
My mistake
tracy anne | 12/21/07
|
 
Actually
tracy anne | 12/21/07
|
 
Actually
tracy anne | 12/21/07
|
  
Thanks for the good discussion
NonZealot | 12/21/07
|
   
Oops, tiny correction
NonZealot | 12/21/07
|
What's Unfairly tied to OS?
NanoProgrammer | 12/21/07
|

The problems is hitting people that DOES what you say:
hkommedal | 12/21/07
|
 
You'd be surprised
samoanbiscuit@... | 12/22/07
|
  
Sorry, but you can NOT stick ti IE if you are nNOT
hkommedal | 12/22/07
|
   
thank you for finally making this point
mdsmedia | 12/22/07
|
    
A point
laura.b | 12/26/07
|
   
This is pure old discrimination!
Ole Man | 12/22/07
|
What People Want
ExNavy91 | 12/22/07
|

And how is that relevant to this topic?
mdsmedia | 12/22/07
|

Yes ! That is correct ! We have to give the costomer
hkommedal | 12/22/07
|
 
Microsofts biggest as yet unused trump
llort0 | 12/23/07
|
  
Impossible! You've gotta be kidding
Ole Man | 12/23/07
|
OOXML
tracy anne | 12/27/07
|

It's "The Microsoft Way"
Ole Man | 12/28/07
|
Opera should drop the suit
John Musbach | 01/03/08
|
Who uses Opera anyway?!?!
marcshep77@... | 01/06/08
|
RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
wanderson | 01/14/08
|
RE: Opera: Acid or no, its Microsoft antitrust complaint goes forward
motorhead1979@... | 01/29/08
|