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December 20th, 2007

Microsoft and Samba finally come to terms over Windows protocols

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 12:49 pm

Categories: Corporate strategy, Legal, Linux, Windows server

Tags: Samba, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

After years of public disagreement over ensuring interoperability between their respective software, Microsoft and Samba have come to terms. And not surprisingly, each vendor is offering quite a different spin on the licensing agreement they unveiled on December 20.

Microsoft and Samba finally come to terms over Windows protocolsIt took an intermediary, the Protocol Freedom Information Foundation (PFIF) — a non-profit organization created by the Software Freedom Law Center — to hand off the Microsoft protocol documentation that Samba said it needed to make its Unix/Linux file/print sharing products work properly with Windows.

According to a press release issued December 20, Samba is paying Microsoft a one-time sum of 10,000 Euros, after which the PFIF will make available to the Samba Team, under non-disclosure, “the documentation needed for implementation of all of the workgroup server protocols covered by the European Union decision.” (The EU decision to which this refers is the Microsoft’s loss of its appeal to overturn the European Commission’s 2004 antitrust decision against the company.)

Not surprisingly, Samba and Microsoft had quite different spins on today’s news.

Samba and the PFIF characterized the agreement as a victory for free software projects. They also reminded observers that Microsoft was required by the European Commission to provide this protocol information as part of the terms of the EU antitrust case. Samba also emphasized that the agreement with Microsoft does not mean Samba is acknowledging that it was or is in violation of any Microsoft patents.

Jeremy Allison, co-creator of Samba, was quoted in the press release as saying:

“We will be able to use the information obtained to continue to develop Samba and create more Free Software. We are hoping to get back to the productive relationship we had with Microsoft during the early 1990’s when we shared information about these protocols. The agreement also clarifies the exact patent numbers concerned so there is no possibility of misunderstandings around this issue.”

Microsoft, meanwhile, portrayed the protocol agreement with Samba in a more congenial way.

In a post to the Microsoft Port 25 blog, entitled “If you’re surprised, you’re not paying attention,” Microsoft Director of Platform and Technology Strategy Sam Ramji, emphasized recent cooperation between Samba and Microsoft.

Ramji noted that Microsoft recently donated Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN) Premium subscriptions to the core Samba team; built a test bed with them; started sharing testing tools; and worked to preserve the Unix Extensions in CIFS to ensure continued compatibility with Microsoft’s software.

Ramji said he worked with Samba’s principals to hammer out an agreement that would fulfill Microsoft’s protocol-sharing obligations and make Samba happy. From his December 20 blog post:

“The terms were good, but the Samba team wanted Microsoft to make some changes to fully conform with the existing practices of the Samba developer community …. Attorneys and technologists (always an odd combination) on both sides worked hard to refine the language and do so in a clear and cooperative way. …

“I expect that this (Samba licensing agreement) will significantly improve the process of Samba development, and produce better quality interoperation between Windows and Linux/UNIX environments…. “What this process has shown me is that if we focus on technology, and patient, diligent execution, we can make real progress together.”

However you spin the deal, Microsoft is now doing what the European Commision stipulated three years ago: Sharing protocol information in a way that does not discriminate against the open-source/free-software community.

For more details on today’s Samba licensing announcement, check out the post from News.com’s Stephen Shankland.

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Loss == fail to convince nizuse?
I'm unsure of any other sense that I've lost.

Pretty much, it seems your argument boils down to "you're from the US, therefore you're thinking in a US-centric box, and your opinion is worthless... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Bob.Kerns Posted on: 03/03/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
This is great news for me!  NonZealot | 12/20/07
To be clear  Spîkeý | 12/20/07
Then its a good thing I'm not tied to MS!  NonZealot | 12/20/07
Forcing Microsoft to clearly document and open up specifications is great  georgeou | 12/20/07
You keep forgetting ...  MisterMiester | 12/21/07
Your link doesn't seem to support your statement?  Bob.Kerns | 12/22/07
Clarification...  Bob.Kerns | 12/23/07
Excellent and balanced analysis  Xwindowsjunkie | 12/30/07
EU  nizuse | 12/21/07
Not saying George is right or wrong, but...  Bob.Kerns | 12/21/07
Microsoft appealed...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/21/07
Unless I'm mistaken...  Bob.Kerns | 12/22/07
Same mistake  nizuse | 12/22/07
Still silly -- EU rules are not a USA box!  Bob.Kerns | 12/22/07
Bob, you take your loss badly  nizuse | 12/23/07
Loss == fail to convince nizuse?  Bob.Kerns | 03/03/08
Can you elaborate on this?  B.O.F.H. | 12/22/07
Don't expect George to answer  nizuse | 12/22/07
What is samba?  Chustar | 12/20/07
sorry  Chustar | 12/20/07
now M$ has no more patents against OSS  Linux Geek | 12/20/07
RTFA, genius  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/20/07
Some patentes are included, but not mentioned ...  MisterMiester | 12/20/07
Nope, no patents licensed  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/20/07
Who said anything about patent licenses ...  MisterMiester | 12/20/07
Hear, hear ...  George Mitchell | 12/20/07
The master of misleading posts strikes again ...  George Mitchell | 12/20/07
The only thing he's the master of...  James T. Kirk | 12/21/07
How childish.  quikboy | 12/20/07
Vista Land Speed Record  D. T. Schmitz | 12/20/07
Thank You EC  Richard Flude | 12/20/07
Maybe it's time...  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/20/07
Nothing wrong with the out come of the EC ruling...  nizuse | 12/25/07
It is never a big deal  GuidingLight | 12/26/07
Vista Land Speed Record  D. T. Schmitz | 12/20/07
RE: Microsoft and Samba finally come to terms over Windows protocols  chips@... | 12/20/07
RE: Microsoft and Samba finally come to terms over Windows protocols  JeremyAllison | 12/20/07
FSVO "congenial"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/20/07
The key to maintaining congenial relations with MS ...  George Mitchell | 12/20/07
Speak softly and carry a big stick  John L. Ries | 12/20/07
Congenial  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 12/20/07
Well said...  John L. Ries | 12/20/07
Congenial  Sam Ramji | 12/20/07
Its about time that you guys started obeying the laws in the markets you  Xwindowsjunkie | 12/22/07
Does this cover all the stuff the EC had issue with?  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/20/07
Message has been deleted.  ye | 12/21/07
Funny comment...  Cardinal_Bill | 12/21/07
I didn't go crying and whining stomping my feet to the EU.  ye | 12/23/07
Then...  Cardinal_Bill | 12/23/07
Keep your friends close, Jeremy  Ole Man | 12/21/07
It is really good to see both SAMBA and MS out here in the forum ...  George Mitchell | 12/20/07
OSS: Always attacking Microsoft  ye | 12/21/07
Microsoft: Always attacking OSS  startx.jeff | 12/21/07
Microsoft doesn't pretend they're taking the higher ground.  ye | 12/21/07
Because they are already on the highest ground they can find ...  George Mitchell | 12/21/07
We already know they're doing it because they have to.  ye | 12/21/07
Journalism 101  none none | 12/21/07
This wasn't journalism. It was commentary by the OSS community.  ye | 12/21/07
Are you stoned?  odubtaig | 12/23/07
Exactly!  HerbieHightower | 12/21/07
Actually...  SpikeyMike | 12/21/07
Then why did they do it?  ye | 12/21/07
Cry babies?  George Mitchell | 12/21/07
Where did I say it was one sided? (nt)  ye | 12/21/07
Short memory  none none | 12/21/07
That doesn't make it one sided.  ye | 12/21/07
Yes it does...  Linux User 147560 | 12/27/07
Read your history...  SpikeyMike | 12/21/07
Oooh...  Confused by religion | 12/21/07
That's exactly my point: They're gloating/whining.  ye | 12/21/07
Gloating?? i don't see it  deaf_e_kate | 12/21/07
Are you really this disillusioned?  ye | 12/21/07
Oh, he's pulled the 'anti-american' card!  odubtaig | 12/23/07
No question it benefits Amaerican companies.  ye | 12/23/07
So what means it is?  odubtaig | 12/24/07
Is crying/gloating really needed?  happyharry_z | 12/21/07
What?  MisterMiester | 12/21/07
To the bargaining stage?  B.O.F.H. | 12/22/07
You're whining  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/21/07
Microsoft's 'dirty tricks'  Ole Man | 12/21/07
Ooh, Slashdot and The Register are certainly  Confused by religion | 12/21/07
So, what about the rest of the links?  ego.sum.stig@... | 12/21/07
I love roughlydrafted too  NonZealot | 12/22/07
Last National Inquirer I looked at was about 35 years ago  Ole Man | 12/22/07
Bad Microsoft! Bad!  NonZealot | 12/21/07
Microsft, Samba and the real Issue  Xwindowsjunkie | 12/29/07
Disband them both  Boot_Agnostic | 12/29/07
Exactly So  Mahegan | 01/02/08
Still a little rocky  John Musbach | 01/18/08

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