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January 18th, 2008

Counting to (Windows) 7

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 1:42 pm

Categories: Channel, Corporate strategy, OEMs, Resellers, Service Pack, System builders, Vista, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., TG Daily, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

I’ve gotten lots of questions from Windows users this week about TG Daily’s story that Microsoft is running early with Windows 7 and has delivered an early build to unnamed parties outside of the company.

Here’s what I know and don’t.

First off, Microsoft officially is refusing to say anything at all about Windows 7. They aren’t confirming, aren’t denying. They just aren’t talking about it. Period. They want to talk about Windows Vista and — to a much lesser extent — Vista Service Pack (SP) 1. (And they definitely don’t want to talk about “Shipping Seven,” the blog from someone allegedly working on the Windows 7 team.)

On Channel 9, I saw one Microsoft employee insist that Windows 7 is still in the planning phase — implying that it’s only slideware at this point. But being in planning doesn’t mean that early builds do not exist. In fact, I have heard a number of Microsoft folks have Windows 7 running on their systems. Is this the alleged M1 (Milestone 1) build mentioned in TG Daily’s story? I don’t know.

I have not (yet) found folks outside of Microsoft who claim to have a build of Windows 7. Does this mean such a build doesn’t exist? No. Top OEMs tend to see pretty early builds of new versions of Windows, so if a Windows 7 build is available, I bet some PC makers have seen it.

Could Windows 7 ship before Microsoft’s publicly stated date of 2010? Definitely. In fact, I will almost be surprised if it doesn’t, with the new Windows motto of under-promise and over-deliver.

When we first heard Microsoft was telling its salesforce that Windows 7 was going to be a 2010 deliverable, I figured the new Windows engineering regime had built some padding into that timeline so as not to face another Vista slip-date scenario. Plus, what better way to convince customers on the fence about upgrading to Vista or waiting for the next Windows build that they should make the move? (”Do you really want to wait at least three more years?”)

(And remember, before we heard the 2010 date, the Windows team had said publicly that it was on an every two-year release schedule. Microsoft shipped Vista in 2007. TG Daily says the new target is second half of 2009. If Microsoft is targeting holiday 2009, it would have to release to manufacturing Windows 7 in the late summer/early fall, in order for PC makers to get it preloaded on new PCs in time.)

Windows 7 is unlikely to include major architectural changes, Microsoft officials have said, making it even more likely to ship sooner rather than later.

What’s your bet? Will Windows 7 hit in 2009? And if it does, will that impact your Vista upgrade plans (either positively or negatively)?

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RE: Counting to (Windows) 7
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windoze  zutt | 01/18/08
Modern OS?  Mectron | 01/18/08
Re: Modern OS?  A Grain of Salt | 01/19/08
Someday......  linux for me | 01/19/08
What a daft comparison  DotNetWill | 01/21/08
Well...  thungurknifur | 01/21/08
What's windoze?  quikboy | 01/18/08
windoze..  jamesrayg | 01/19/08
The shippingseven blog....  MGP2 | 01/18/08
Wait... aren't you talking about Apple?  quikboy | 01/18/08
Windows 7 is unlikely to include major architectural changes  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
Good riddance to you too...  transposeIT | 01/18/08
It is happening as we write  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
You're joking, right?  quikboy | 01/18/08
'MSFT cooking the books' but would love to see this reliable link that.....  Ole Man | 01/18/08
Yes, but...  Jeremy W | 01/19/08
WTF  dave@... | 01/24/08
Are people that dumb or what?  Jeremy W | 01/20/08
Calm down - a little  jlbrown23@... | 01/19/08
Really?  thungurknifur | 01/21/08
Well . . .  CobraA1 | 01/18/08
Versioning  AnonymousBugMeNotUser | 01/18/08
I disagree.  thungurknifur | 01/21/08
We've hears all this vitriol and bitterness before...  rickhal | 01/24/08
what are you smoking?  ea01bg | 04/18/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  johnaus@... | 01/19/08
Windows 7  Kromaethius | 01/19/08
Vista is not an operating system for the masses  Jeremy W | 01/19/08
I half agree.  gfeier | 01/19/08
6 of one, half dozen of the other  vi0l3t1975@... | 01/20/08
Everyone is 'screwing' customers  DotNetWill | 01/21/08
Jump on board!  Ole Man | 01/21/08
And the consumer allows it to happen..  JT82 | 01/24/08
Yep, shame on the nasty, dirty, old consumers  Ole Man | 01/24/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  duanedeen@... | 01/20/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  myvidonline@... | 01/20/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  a.p.cotton@... | 01/21/08
why worry about 7  firstmagnitude | 01/21/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  Dataland | 01/22/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  v6charlie@... | 01/22/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  mwagner@... | 01/24/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  stdo57@... | 08/18/08
RE: Counting to (Windows) 7  tealcat | 11/02/08

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