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March 3rd, 2008

Microsoft caves: 'Super-standards' mode to become IE 8 default

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 3:38 pm

Categories: Internet Explorer, Legal

Tags: Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Corp., Web Browsers, Internet, Mary Jo Foley

After much outcry from developers and users, Microsoft is bowing to pressure and making its new, Acid-2-compliant standards mode the default in Internet Explorer 8.

Microsoft officials are attributing the change in plans to the company wanting to live up to the interoperability pledges that Microsoft made a couple weeks ago. (Come on, guys! There is nothing wrong with saying the real reason you are doing a 180: Two of your core constituencies were really angry.)

In January, Microsoft’s IE team outlined its plans to add a “super-standards” mode to IE 8. That mode was set to be one of three supported in the next version of Microsoft’s browser. (The other two are “quirks” mode, which will be compatible with current IE pages and applications and a “standards” mode, which will be the same as what’s offered by IE 7 and “compatible with current content.”) In super-standards mode, early internal builds of IE 8 passed the Acid2 standards tests, according to Microsoft.

Microsoft originally planned to make the super-standards mode an opt-in choice and the IE 7 “standards” mode the default — claiming that by doing so, Microsoft would ensure better backwards-compatibility with existing Web sites and applications. But that decision angered those who felt Microsoft was shirking its commitment to make IE more standards-compliant.

Don’t forget that Opera Software lodged an antitrust complaint against Microsoft in December for the Microsoft’s failure to make IE compliant with key Web standards. Based on Microsoft’s March 3 press release, it looks like Opera’s (and/or other competitors’) complaints helped convince Microsoft to change. Check out the quote from Brad Smith, Microsoft Senior Vice President and General Counsel:

“While we do not believe there are currently any legal requirements that would dictate which rendering mode must be chosen as the default for a given browser, this step clearly removes this question as a potential legal and regulatory issue,” said Brad Smith, Microsoft senior vice president and general counsel.”

In the end — regardless of why Microsoft really is making this change — the decision to make standards mode the default in IE 8 should make many happy. What it will mean to backwards compatibility should become evident soon, as Microsoft is expected to start its private beta test of IE 8 any day now, with a public beta to follow.

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So if it's Super...
I mean If the current W3C standard, is considered "Super Standard" by Microsoft, does that either say microsoft thinks they were standard 'enough', or that they really had to work overtime just to get their standards to match.... (Read the rest)
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Opera's complaint only "helped convince"?  PB_z | 03/03/08
MSFT doesn't pay fines  glocks out | 03/03/08
bah  rtk | 03/03/08
The princes of darkness  catechumen@... | 03/04/08
Not so......  Ole Man | 03/04/08
And " AMEN bro. ! " (nt)  hkommedal | 03/04/08
I think MS did the right thing  John L. Ries | 03/03/08
It was always counterproductive  Leria | 03/04/08
Counterproductive for whom?  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Now we get to hear the ABMers whine...  ye | 03/03/08
Nice try  John L. Ries | 03/03/08
Where did I specifically mention you? (nt)  ye | 03/03/08
You forget  John L. Ries | 03/03/08
At last...  bportlock | 03/04/08
Nope, did not forget.  ye | 03/04/08
OK, let's have some whining  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Is that why you create strawmen?  ye | 03/04/08
Point being  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
@John L. Ries: I know what ABMers are saying.  ye | 03/04/08
So I did read ye correctly  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
@John L. Ries: Typical ABMer  ye | 03/04/08
Back in circles we go  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Re:Back in circles we go  fr0thy@... | 03/05/08
Re: Circles  John L. Ries | 03/05/08
People who are still using bugs in CSS.  CobraA1 | 03/03/08
Banned?  daepowell@... | 03/06/08
Yes  pauliusp | 03/07/08
People don't know about them  CobraA1 | 03/10/08
good on you ye.... you just can't wait  mdsmedia | 03/03/08
We've seen it before with IE7 and Vista.  ye | 03/04/08
In other words  JLHenry | 03/04/08
LOL! Not this AGAIN!  ye | 03/04/08
listening...  doh123 | 03/04/08
Other side of the Moon.........  Ole Man | 03/04/08
The difference is...  SpikeyMike | 03/04/08
i'll whine  hansonjb | 03/04/08
If they REALLY have done it,  hkommedal | 03/04/08
prevent whiners  jjarman | 03/05/08
Yes, we hear you......  Ole Man | 03/04/08
What is your purpose here?  ye | 03/04/08
May be it's to...  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Thanks! wink  Ole Man | 03/04/08
re: Thanks  M.R. Kennedy | 03/04/08
I am honered  Ole Man | 03/04/08
Someone selling " snake-oil " here (nt)  hkommedal | 03/04/08
Then he's failed. I don't know anyone he's...  ye | 03/04/08
A miserable existence  Ole Man | 03/04/08
re: A miserable existence...  M.R. Kennedy | 03/04/08
The Crown  Ole Man | 03/04/08
Come on you guys...  MalumRegnat\ | 03/04/08
You're right  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Try telling that  Ole Man | 03/04/08
A pathetic and sad life  fr0thy@... | 03/11/08
YAY!  CobraA1 | 03/03/08
RE: Microsoft caves: 'Super-standards' mode to become IE 8 default  Bruce IV | 03/03/08
Quirks would be IE 5.5 compatibility (NT)  PB_z | 03/03/08
Granted  Bruce IV | 03/03/08
It's not something the user needs to control.  odubtaig | 03/04/08
...and IE6 silly (NT)  odubtaig | 03/04/08
No, 5.5  PB_z | 03/04/08
That'll be why  odubtaig | 03/04/08
I think this was handled well.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/04/08
Took Them 8 Versions To Do It  itanalyst2@... | 03/03/08
What's your point?  ShadeTree | 03/04/08
It coulde also be said...  Stuka | 03/04/08
Do you have ....  ShadeTree | 03/04/08
The advanced stages........  Ole Man | 03/04/08
re: The advanced stages...........  M.R. Kennedy | 03/04/08
Is your first name  SpikeyMike | 03/04/08
Pay no attention  Ole Man | 03/04/08
He KNOWS ? ? (nt)  hkommedal | 03/04/08
He KNOWS ? ?  Ole Man | 03/04/08
In your case it's STD's from MS execs  fr0thy@... | 03/11/08
Firefox on 2.0.x and Opera on 9.26 (nt)  hkommedal | 03/04/08
Competition is great  tikigawd | 03/04/08
Considering..........  Ole Man | 03/04/08
What users 'convinced' MS, Opera users  Boot_Agnostic | 03/04/08
ABMers are running out of things to complain about.  wolf_z | 03/04/08
Standards  Stuka | 03/04/08
No, they just finally realized...  tikigawd | 03/04/08
And possibly a fine lurking ?  hkommedal | 03/04/08
I'll settle for  JLHenry | 03/04/08
Wrong way around  odubtaig | 03/04/08
Sheer excellence? (laughing)  Ole Man | 03/04/08
re: Sheer excellence? (laughing)...  M.R. Kennedy | 03/04/08
You must be  Ole Man | 03/04/08
Well, there's your # 1 mistake!!  techboy_z | 03/04/08
That would be awfully nice  John L. Ries | 03/04/08
Tweaking web pages for IE tires me  MrTitanium | 03/04/08
About time too.  odubtaig | 03/04/08
RE: Microsoft caves: 'Super-standards' mode to become IE 8 default  marph321 | 03/04/08
RE: Microsoft caves: 'Super-standards' mode to become IE 8 default  yid_witch@... | 03/04/08
I stopped downloading from Microsoft  BALTHOR | 03/04/08
Acid 2 is a standard-compliance test. (nt)  hkommedal | 03/04/08
Wow  jimk_z | 03/04/08
This is really a bad news  pa2004 | 03/05/08
haha  jjarman | 03/05/08
to clarify  jjarman | 03/05/08
Hello??  techboy_z | 03/05/08
About time  John Musbach | 03/08/08
Super Microsoft IE compliant standards mode.  fr0thy@... | 03/11/08
So if it's Super...  kblessinggr | 06/18/08
I'm happy with this change.  quarky42 | 03/12/08
Cowards..  zeshu@... | 03/19/08
It must have been a rabid fox  Ole Man | 03/21/08
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Clients usually use what came with their computers  kblessinggr | 06/18/08

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