It's an opportunity for the money puppets
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Which oddly enough...
zkiwi | 03/12/08
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What drivel is this?
Marty R. Milette | 03/13/08
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Just consider the source of the comments.
ItsTheBottomLine | 03/13/08
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Scare me away LOL ...
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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Just like Linux and life's other annoyances
jlafitte | 03/14/08
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I guess Linux is annoying
fr0thy@... | 03/14/08
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Linux isn't in the slightest bit annoying ... it's the *N*X zealots who are
de-void | 02/18/09
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Oh ye of little basis
mswift@... | 02/19/09
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Welcome to the real world...
Marty R. Milette | 03/15/08
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What you really see
Ole Man | 03/16/08
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Once Marty wakes up ....
fr0thy@... | 03/17/08
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Ignorance is bliss...
Marty R. Milette | 02/19/09
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Very, very nice, Marty
FrankleeMiDeer | 02/19/09
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Welcome to the real world (cntd)
Chalfont | 02/20/09
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And welcome to you
craiglarry | 02/21/09
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Yes, I've seen it, and it STINKS
Marty R. Milette | 02/23/09
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Simple Fix
KeithAu001 | 03/13/08
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Nice try, but..
cmjrees | 03/14/08
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Let's not split hairs here
KeithAu001 | 03/15/08
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Let's Not Split Hairs Here #2
KeithAu001 | 03/15/08
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Correct
John L. Ries | 03/15/08
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Danger: reasoned argument
mswift@... | 02/19/09
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Just stating what will happen. Seems I touched a few nerves
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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Actually...
FrankleeMiDeer | 02/19/09
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What a useless post
Baer | 02/18/09
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
odenni | 03/12/08
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Mind you, we're still talking about
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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RE: vapourware
odenni | 03/12/08
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Could it
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Yes, every way possible....
jerang@... | 03/12/08
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Message has been deleted.
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Figures...nt
ItsTheBottomLine | 03/13/08
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absolutely.
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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Your average web 2.0 site
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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I disagree
philpenn | 03/13/08
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Most serious developers...
Marty R. Milette | 03/13/08
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It's called wasting money ...
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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Maybe give an intelligent reply when you've seen it.
Marty R. Milette | 03/14/08
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Only simple apps are useful
alaniane@... | 03/14/08
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@$100,000 moneywaster
fr0thy@... | 03/14/08
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he knows not
mswift@... | 02/19/09
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Serious Developers...
SpikeyMike | 03/17/08
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Wow!
Ole Man | 03/17/08
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Way over your head...
Marty R. Milette | 02/19/09
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Beta tester
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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Beta Tester _
3LAN | 03/13/08
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LOL ... people are catching on... nice! ... nt
ItsTheBottomLine | 03/13/08
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The Firefox effect....
bportlock | 03/12/08
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I Couldn't Agree More
shaneshack | 03/13/08
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You missed the NS 2 through 4 days
Spats30 | 03/13/08
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Question?
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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Why standards?
DB_z | 03/13/08
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Why reasons?
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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Why not?
DB_z | 03/13/08
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where did the apple argument come from
jmadsen@... | 03/13/08
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Simple.
RandomCake | 03/13/08
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That's one way to look at it.
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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OK, Let's try this then.
TtfnJohn | 03/13/08
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Looks like he means we should drive on whatever
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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Or we could draw an analogy
jmadsen@... | 03/13/08
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It's a good thing...
SpikeyMike | 03/17/08
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There's more than one way
Ole Man | 03/17/08
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The great thing about standards is that we all
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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You see...
jmadsen@... | 03/13/08
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The Firefox effect....
jtollack@... | 03/13/08
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"...due to our self supplied Certs "
bmerc | 03/14/08
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How do you support that?
zkiwi | 03/12/08
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Message has been deleted.
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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It depends what "is" is...
philpenn | 03/13/08
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Huh?
zkiwi | 03/13/08
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Erm....
Spiritusindomit@... | 03/13/08
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Flash works on linux and there is no ActiveX there (nt)
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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Crushing Netscape has nothing to do with free
zkiwi | 03/13/08
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I think you got it right
Leria | 03/13/08
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displaying it right
springerj | 03/13/08
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Comment is not clear...
Anton Philidor | 03/12/08
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Re: Comment is not clear...
none none | 03/12/08
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Don't know enough
John L. Ries | 03/12/08
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Web standard should be ignored
pa2004 | 03/12/08
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Be careful with your ostrich-like approach
bportlock | 03/12/08
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You are lying
pa2004 | 03/12/08
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Go back to your pram
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Careful who you accuse
John L. Ries | 03/12/08
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Re: You are lying
none none | 03/12/08
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Depends on where you live
Necrolin | 03/12/08
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I'll buy that
John L. Ries | 03/13/08
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I don't know about politicians, but....
bportlock | 03/13/08
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If a site
PghNative | 03/13/08
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Depends on where you live
aussieblnd@... | 03/13/08
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Agreed
vikingnyc@... | 03/13/08
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Quickbooks Online
jmadsen@... | 03/13/08
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I used Front Page 2000
wolf_z | 02/18/09
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Frontpage is not the problem
mswift@... | 02/19/09
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You are either delusional or still in school
bportlock | 03/13/08
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IE Special Stuff NOT Standard
donden@... | 03/13/08
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IE is not a standard.
Bruizer | 03/13/08
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You are lying
webmaster@... | 03/13/08
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Real World to pa2004...hello?
TtfnJohn | 03/13/08
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And you drive on the left side ! (nt)
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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IE
wcb42ad | 03/19/08
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re: Be careful with your ostrich-like approach
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Re: re: Be careful with your ostrich-like approach
none none | 03/13/08
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Not that MS didn't try, but...
John L. Ries | 03/13/08
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Got the citadel, Got the moat, Where are the visitors?
DannyO_0x98 | 03/13/08
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this may just be symantics but..
jmadsen@... | 03/13/08
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Message has been deleted.
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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That really is what the fight is all about
John L. Ries | 03/12/08
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re:That really is what the fight is all about
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Not that Intel shouldn't be investigated...
John L. Ries | 03/13/08
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Re: Web standard should be ignored
none none | 03/12/08
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Re: Web standard should be ignored
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Re: Re: Web standard should be ignored
none none | 03/13/08
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have you got any clue??
akkarin2.0 | 03/13/08
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re:have you got any clue??
owner@... | 03/13/08
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re: re: have you got any clue??
fr0thy@... | 03/15/08
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Which version of IE?
DNSB | 03/13/08
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Already "broken"
wsamuel3 | 03/13/08
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No, IE is NOT the standard
DonRupertBitByte | 03/13/08
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re:No, IE is NOT the standard
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Re: re:No, IE is NOT the standard
none none | 03/13/08
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Not even defacto standard in some places
TtfnJohn | 03/13/08
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Yes, drive on ANY side of the road, not just the one. (nt)
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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IE is NOT the Standard
KeithAu001 | 03/13/08
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Ummm, no. IE is not "the" web standard
seakritadmyer@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
rramirez@... | 03/12/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
owner@... | 03/13/08
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It doesn't fall back
Leria | 03/13/08
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Because it was programmed by a dummy
Mitch 74 | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
Midn | 03/12/08
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Nice one
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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The Cross-Browser Problem Continues
zdnet@... | 03/12/08
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many sites are already broken for IE7
james.faction | 03/12/08
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IE6 is still the biggest weight holding devs back
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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Browser sniffing is NOT the solution
Fred Fredrickson | 03/13/08
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What if a feature is broken and the browser doesn't tell you?
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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That can be tested too
Fred Fredrickson | 03/13/08
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You didn't mention how your "solution" fixes this.
CobraA1 | 03/15/08
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I didn't need to.
Fred Fredrickson | 03/15/08
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So you've solved nothing. And you've assumed the user has JavaScript.
CobraA1 | 03/16/08
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You might want to approach this problem with server scripts.
B.O.F.H. | 03/16/08
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K.I.S.S. like Cobra suggests
fr0thy@... | 03/16/08
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Frothy, these are existing practices in web development.
B.O.F.H. | 03/16/08
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fr0thy - Prototype.js detects IE using...
Fred Fredrickson | 03/17/08
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@B.O.F.H. & Fred
fr0thy@... | 03/17/08
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@Fred
fr0thy@... | 03/17/08
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I'm with Cobra on this on
fr0thy@... | 03/15/08
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thanks Microsoft for more FUD
james.faction | 03/12/08
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Where your info. is based on pre-beta stuff
quikboy | 03/12/08
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Every time you've been drunk you've hit me
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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based on history...
james.faction | 03/12/08
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Now point your mat to Bush and pray
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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The web is a huge mess
MikeGale | 03/12/08
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Forcing the me-too's
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Microsoft Broke The Web Before IE8
itanalyst2@... | 03/12/08
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What goes around
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Those who ignore history...
TheWerewolf | 03/12/08
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Jump off a cliff
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
|
 
Veeeery doubtful.....
Ole Man | 03/13/08
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Re: Those who ignore history...
none none | 03/12/08
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I think it can only be put down to ignorance
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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presidential history ? mission accomplished ?
llval@... | 03/28/08
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Netscape broke the web before it IE
Boot_Agnostic | 03/12/08
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MS broke a future
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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Did more than that
John L. Ries | 03/12/08
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re:Netscape broke the web before it IE
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Vista Sucks, Server 2008 Is Awesome
itanalyst2@... | 03/12/08
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Yes, it makes me think you replied to the wrong article (nt)
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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Will Microsoft break the Web?
fr0thy@... | 03/12/08
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IE 7 emulation seems to work great in IE 8 so far
DonBurnett | 03/12/08
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I've encountered one problem so far
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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Using IE6
terry flores | 03/13/08
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IE7 is available for XP.
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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I'll try to restate the point more simply ...
terry flores | 03/13/08
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Welcome to the world of technology.
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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Re: Using IE6. There are too many old bugs in IE 6.
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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They will only stop using IE6
Leria | 03/13/08
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Most people have
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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CSS 2.1
CobraA1 | 03/12/08
|

CSS 3.0
Mitch 74 | 01/08/09
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
yagijd | 03/13/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
akkarin2.0 | 03/13/08
|
I feel the standars are meet already on the web;IE 8 can hold up deployment
rtirman37@... | 03/13/08
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I don't think super standards mode is going to fly
P. Douglas | 03/13/08
|

super standards mode is the wrong description
deaf_e_kate | 03/13/08
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Message has been deleted.
StvBallmer | 03/13/08
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Title Rewrite: Will the Web break IE8?
deaf_e_kate | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
afrey@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
readwryt@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
keith@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
sibconsulting@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
Olorin_z | 03/13/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
Olorin_z | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
yid_witch@... | 03/13/08
|

Let's have software that sticks to the standards!
hkommedal | 03/13/08
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Will it break the web? Absolutely not...
olePigeon | 03/13/08
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re:Will it break the web? Absolutely not...
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Right here
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
AZComicGeek | 03/13/08
|

RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
owner@... | 03/13/08
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Web already broken...
Narg | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
mydasx | 03/13/08
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Standards and Breaking Them
casachs | 03/13/08
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IE has already broken the Web
Tony R. | 03/13/08
|

I agree
green alien | 03/13/08
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I am not so sure about the 'years' thing
Leria | 03/13/08
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Dump IE8 if not W3C OK!
wwwsupport | 03/13/08
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W3C doesn't approve browsers.
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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Same for all?
bigsibling | 03/13/08
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One more reason NOT to use IE.
3dtodd | 03/13/08
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Answers
CobraA1 | 03/13/08
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No Win Situation for MS
aureolin@... | 03/13/08
|

Not as bad as that
John L. Ries | 03/13/08
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No more dog food
ThePrairiePrankster | 03/13/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
Kenoscope | 03/13/08
|

It's always good to test
John L. Ries | 03/13/08
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There's DOS
BALTHOR | 03/13/08
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WHO WILL USE IE8 in default mode?
chaz15 | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
jimboutilier@... | 03/13/08
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Message has been deleted.
mrdood_99205@... | 03/13/08
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Ah, did you try Vista or something?
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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Relax, have a smoke: CSS will fill your every need.
seakritadmyer@... | 03/13/08
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IE-8 -----AN EDSEL BY ANY OTHER NAME
seakritadmyer@... | 03/13/08
|

MS colours
green alien | 03/14/08
|
 
MS colours?
public@... | 03/14/08
|
  
It's plain simple
green alien | 03/14/08
|
What IE 8 will break!
Ole Man | 03/13/08
|

LOL!!
fr0thy@... | 03/13/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
s0121@... | 03/13/08
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What don't Microsuck products break?
mikifinaz1@... | 03/13/08
|

And that's just the MS apps on an MS O/S ... LOL!!!
fr0thy@... | 03/14/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
Techknowledgie | 03/13/08
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Firefox sucks.
Fujikid2 | 03/13/08
|

Firefox rocks
jlafitte | 03/14/08
|

In that case you'll find Linux sucks too
fr0thy@... | 03/17/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
mark.hein@... | 03/13/08
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You'd be shocked
jimk_z | 03/14/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
cmjrees | 03/14/08
|

Wrong place.... [nt]
cmjrees | 03/14/08
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Problem is,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/14/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
jlafitte | 03/14/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
jlafitte | 03/14/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
jlafitte | 03/14/08
|
Standards broke the web
zeshu@... | 03/19/08
|

Have you ever tried?
Ole Man | 03/19/08
|
 
Think outside the box...
zeshu@... | 03/19/08
|
  
Blaming your inabilities
Ole Man | 03/19/08
|
   
it is your inability
zeshu@... | 03/19/08
|

PS: "We, the developers, tell the people"
Ole Man | 03/19/08
|
 
have you ever written..
zeshu@... | 03/19/08
|
  
I have answered
Ole Man | 03/19/08
|
   
actually...
JamesDoyle | 03/20/08
|
    
Just FYI
Ole Man | 03/21/08
|

Talent...
wcb42ad | 03/19/08
|
 
depends
llval@... | 04/11/08
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
CharlesEtheridge@... | 09/02/08
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
bikeman123 | 01/29/09
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There are two major camps, which is the one MS should support?
brad@... | 02/18/09
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
ChrisOPeterson | 02/18/09
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Calm down, Chicken Little
Get-Smart | 02/19/09
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IE *already* broke the web.
davidmeridian | 02/19/09
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RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
FrankleeMiDeer | 02/19/09
|
I Just Use Firefox
chessmen | 02/19/09
|
RE: Will IE 8 break the Web?
erniem1970@... | 02/19/09
|