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May 19th, 2008

Windows 7: The information lockdown continues

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 12:39 pm

Categories: Channel, Corporate strategy, OEMs, Resellers, Service Pack, System builders, Vista, Windows 7, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

When is Microsoft finally going to start sharing information on Windows 7?

After all, if the Redmondians stick to their own oft-quoted ship target of 2010 for the operating system, that is just two years away. For developers two years isn’t a whole lot of time when trying to make decisions about whether or not to build a new product that will be designed specifically to take advantage of new features and functionality in a new Windows release. And for IT managers struggling with deployment plans (as in deploy Vista now or wait two more years for Windows 7), that window on the next version of Windows isn’t overly wide, either.

When Microsoft customers and partners were seeking information about Vista Service Pack (SP) 1, some Microsoft officials defended the company’s new “translucency” (vs. transparency) policy. By sharing too much information that was subject to change, Microsoft wasn’t doing its customers and partners any favors, the translucency backers argued. But not everyone on the Windows team thought the new rules were good for Microsoft’s constituents. Microsoft needed to dial back its translucency hard-line, they said (privately — since they didn’t want to be seen bucking the powers-that-be).

It’s been almost a year since Windows/Windows Live Engineering Chief Steven Sinofsky made the new information-sharing policy clear in a Microsoft-internal blog post (a full copy of which I’m running on the site for my Microsoft 2.0 book).

I’m hearing increasing dissatisfaction from Microsoft customers, testers and other sources typically in the insider track that Microsoft still hasn’t shared any Windows 7 information. The silence is deafening — and disconcerting — they say. As was the case with Internet Explorer 8, the issue isn’t whether Microsoft’s Windows client team is sitting on its hands, doing nothing; instead, the worry is that Microsoft is moving full-steam-ahead to build a Windows 7 that won’t have a whole lot of input from outsiders. After the compatibility and marketing nightmares that have plagued Vista, one would think Microsoft might be interested in letting its users have more sway on what they really want from a new version of Windows.

Do you need Windows 7 information from Microsoft beyond the ship-date target? If so, what do you need to know sooner rather than later?

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assemulate: You can get a survey to say anything you want. Just structure the questions so you get the right response. Vista works fine the only people having problems with it are axe grinders and the disenfranchised.... (Read the rest)
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Once burned  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/19/08
It's just a Vista diversion tactic  fr0thy2 | 05/19/08
Maybe you should read the article before posting your troll.  rtk | 05/19/08
'xactly  jscarey | 05/19/08
Hmm  X41 | 05/20/08
Sooner, but I agree - not as soon as Vista.  BillDem | 05/19/08
Transition to OSX  rjohn05 | 05/19/08
Nonsense  Jeremy W | 05/19/08
Proof of ignorance  xuniL_z | 05/20/08
Unbelievable  Axsimulate | 05/20/08
Vista not doing well.  rtk | 05/20/08
don't see a problem with validity  merc2dogs` | 05/21/08
doing great  pokendeye@... | 05/21/08
Vista not doing well.  Axsimulate | 05/22/08
Vista doing very well.  rtk | 05/22/08
@rtk  Axsimulate | 05/23/08
@ Axsimulate  rtk | 05/23/08
Unbelievable??  xuniL_z | 05/21/08
Who cares what you care?  TtfnJohn | 05/21/08
Apparently, you do.  xuniL_z | 05/21/08
Unbelievable dummy  dougbeer | 03/02/09
Unbelievable  pokendeye@... | 05/21/08
Isn't that something.  xuniL_z | 05/21/08
Proof of what?  atari8bit@... | 05/23/08
so you are saying that Microsoft  xuniL_z | 05/27/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  bearlyworking | 05/19/08
No it's entrenched  fr0thy2 | 05/19/08
Good idea, however  Kaiwai | 05/19/08
Indeed. an interesting idea but...  Dave32265 | 05/20/08
WHY?  de-void | 05/23/08
I wonder if Steve Ballmer will ware a black turtle at the Keynote. [nt]  olePigeon | 05/19/08
Oops, I meant turtle neck. [nt]  olePigeon | 05/19/08
Better the first way  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/19/08
Yo, all the Bros resent that remark.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/08
Speciesist?  jscarey | 05/19/08
Question  X41 | 05/20/08
You bet your sweet ass I am  CarlS | 05/20/08
Oops, I meant turtle neck.  aussieblnd@... | 05/20/08
Open Architecture != Open Source  Harry Bardal | 05/19/08
You know Harry  xuniL_z | 05/20/08
Offense  Harry Bardal | 05/20/08
Now Harry.  xuniL_z | 05/21/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  ZDNET_guest666 | 05/19/08
4-5 years  DonRupertBitByte | 05/19/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  Loverock Davidson | 05/19/08
Released on schedule with all drivers working nicely  fr0thy2 | 05/19/08
MS is NOT in the driver business, thats on the hardware folks.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/08
FOSS people write drivers, why can't MS?  fr0thy2 | 05/20/08
FOSS works for Free, MS doesn't  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/08
MS does write drivers  wolf_z | 05/20/08
Wait for PDC  johngalt_0705 | 05/19/08
So, like a "Vista stable", but called W7. Reminds me of Win98.  fr0thy2 | 05/19/08
What we want to know about Windows 7 now.  BillDem | 05/19/08
Please...  wolf_z | 05/20/08
Be sure, far not all are in the dark  Raiker | 05/19/08
Simply not true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/08
Message has been deleted.  fr0thy2 | 05/20/08
I persoanlly believe there is MUCH discontent inside  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/19/08
good point  bearlyworking | 05/19/08
That would be a sensible way to go  fr0thy2 | 05/20/08
Not as easy as that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/20/08
DOS is not the problem  X41 | 05/20/08
This is true  Dave32265 | 05/20/08
I agree  TtfnJohn | 05/21/08
Windows 7: The execution lockdown continues  Chad_z | 05/19/08
I hope they ar at least talking to hardware people  Randalllind | 05/19/08
nVidia is actually keeping up to date  CobraA1 | 05/19/08
If by "close to shipping or right after"  rtk | 05/20/08
Silence is a mistake in general  johnfenjackson@... | 05/20/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues - Case Closed  Wittsend | 05/20/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  bogey9000 | 05/20/08
This story is not worth much  Speednet | 05/20/08
RE: Windows 7 Hypothesis  Edesw88 | 05/20/08
The "right" lesson from Vista  c#r@... | 05/20/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  Techref6060 | 05/20/08
Message has been deleted.  Hotdoge3 | 05/20/08
If you really dislike Vista....  mikifinaz1@... | 05/20/08
As a developer I would like to know if Microsoft  ZwFlushKey | 05/20/08
why the lockdown  Eduardo_z | 05/20/08
What vultures - Give MS some room!  jpr75_z | 05/23/08
RE: Windows 7: The information lockdown continues  Joe Dufflebag | 05/25/08

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