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August 1st, 2008

I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 11:32 am

Categories: Apple, Channel, Management tools, OEMs, Resellers, Security, System builders, Vista, Windows Live, Windows client

Tags: Performance, PC, Microsoft Windows Live, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows Live OneCare, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Desktops, Software, Hardware

Do you consider Microsoft products like Windows Defender antispyware tool and Windows Live OneCare security/management service to be crapware that you don’t want preloaded on your PC, or performance-enhancement tools?

In an e-mail exchange this week with a spokesperson for Microsoft’s OEM unit over what kinds of tweaks Microsoft is encouraging its PC partners to make to provide a better end-to-end user experience, I learned that Microsoft is touting some of its products as de-crapifiers. Specifically, the Redmondians are telling partners and customers that Windows Defender and Windows Live OneCare can be used to clean up their PCs so they run better and faster.

Here is part of the message I received from the Microsoft spokesperson:

“Both Windows Vista and Windows Live OneCare … offer some new innovations to help improve PC performance by making it easier to turn off and remove applications that people don’t use regularly.

“* Windows Vista customers can turn off programs that launch as part of the boot sequence using Windows Defender, which most people think of as spyware protection, but it also helps with PC performance management as outlined here.

“* Windows Live OneCare similarly enables customers to turn off programs with its Start Time Optimizer service. But it takes this one step further by monitoring startup applications and detecting which are infrequently used, presenting that list to the user along with the ability to choose which of those programs to disable. And it does so on an ongoing basis, so the suggestions can change over time based on the customer’s changing usage habits. Further details are here.

“From what we’ve seen with OneCare alone, 80% of customers opt to remove unwanted and unused files when presented with the option, and typically remove about 2 applications per Start Time Optimizer session, though that can vary over time and computer usage.”

Microsoft — trying to be careful not to overstep the boundaries of its influence with PC makers, as outlined in the U.S. by the Consent Decree which resulted from the Department of Justice antitrust case against the company — is encouraging PC makers to make other changes to the way they tweak and ship Windows-preloaded PCs. The goal: Make Windows PCs more Apple-like, in terms of how they work right out of the box.

Do you see the value in products like Defender and OneCare for new PC owners? Or do you consider them to be the same kind of crapware against which users (and some vendors) are fighting back?

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Why do I need this???
Oh yeah, I use OS X. I don't need this crap. (Read the rest)
Posted by: rag@... Posted on: 11/19/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
ohgreat.  solomonrex | 08/01/08
so what do you suggest  reverseswing | 08/01/08
Closed Architecture  Harry Bardal | 08/01/08
Please stop already with this repetitious and,,,  xuniL_z | 08/01/08
Please stop already...  Update victim | 08/04/08
Any chance you could come up with an argument that isn't 10 years old? (nt)  ye | 08/04/08
After 10 years ago (or so)  fmcgowan | 08/04/08
@fmcgowan: While debatable how...  ye | 08/04/08
Exlusive preload contracts  fmcgowan | 08/04/08
@fmcgowan: I repeat: Any chance you could come up with an argument that...  ye | 08/04/08
Can you point to the pertinent sections of U.S. law...  xuniL_z | 08/04/08
Pretzle logic...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/04/08
Um... Genius?  solomonrex | 08/03/08
umm... there is a place like that  gnesterenko | 08/06/08
suggest  sderf@... | 08/04/08
...  morph000 | 08/04/08
suggest  morph000 | 08/04/08
Get with it...  Marty R. Milette | 08/04/08
RTFM? ROFL  brad@... | 08/05/08
One Way  Update victim | 08/04/08
I suggest...  {DvT}Hex | 08/04/08
that wouldn't bother me but...  ca1ic0cat | 08/04/08
People like you probably use SKYPE...  Marty R. Milette | 08/04/08
uh.. 30 - 45 seconds is "bloody inefficent"..?  Wolfie2K3 | 08/04/08
Re: Oh Great  kc117mx | 08/04/08
OneCare offered as TRIAL is crapware.  qmlscycrajg | 08/01/08
agreed  reverseswing | 08/01/08
Easy solution!  Marty R. Milette | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  jfp | 08/01/08
Good idea ... but  rhomp2002@... | 08/04/08
Ya, right...  Marty R. Milette | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  mikefarinha | 08/01/08
Why a me too product?  ThePrairiePrankster | 08/01/08
Debatable  clindhartsen | 08/01/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  Rex.Ballard | 08/01/08
Yes, I know...  cornpie | 08/01/08
idiot  jiagebusen | 08/05/08
Latest Version of OneCare is Great!  cnfrisch | 08/01/08
You don't find it disingenous....  TripleII | 08/01/08
the largest threat vector is the user  rtk | 08/01/08
Yes, Phishing and Social hacking are OS independent.  TripleII | 08/01/08
Can you provide an example of drive by malware...  ye | 08/02/08
Two problems with your post  bmerc | 08/04/08
Provide an example does not mean actual malware...  ye | 08/04/08
TripleII, are you sure it's that easy?  xuniL_z | 08/02/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/01/08
There are other good options, as well  Gruffydd | 08/02/08
Do you WORK for MSFT?  MacSmiley | 08/02/08
PDH Alert!!  Arm A. Geddon | 08/03/08
Microsoft MVP?  magallanes | 08/04/08
Do you mean besides......  xuniL_z | 08/03/08
You left something out.  kozmcrae | 08/03/08
SHHH!! You might get deleted. wink [nt]  Arm A. Geddon | 08/03/08
I agree...it has been very good...  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
The root cause...  TripleII | 08/01/08
Add it Up  Harry Bardal | 08/01/08
I know that, my question was about the apps.  TripleII | 08/01/08
you have a valid point but...  reverseswing | 08/01/08
LMAO  xuniL_z | 08/02/08
Your post....  Sleeper Service | 08/03/08
Here it is:  ye | 08/02/08
One step further  MariusSilverwolf | 08/02/08
Re: msconfig  Arm A. Geddon | 08/03/08
I provided the command to show he didn't...  ye | 08/03/08
Like CCleaner...  Sleeper Service | 08/04/08
msconfig  Moose 245 | 08/04/08
The point is there is a tool included with Windows.  ye | 08/04/08
Make Windows more Apple-like'  Jeremy W | 08/01/08
Everything BESIDES the OS...  supercharlie | 08/01/08
Exactly. I'll drink to that.  Arm A. Geddon | 08/03/08
Vista is crapware  boed | 08/01/08
Well that only took twelve topics.  Sleeper Service | 08/02/08
And your point is?  Gruffydd | 08/02/08
Re: And your point is?  Gruffydd | 08/02/08
Get a dictionary  boed | 08/02/08
Except it isn't....  Sleeper Service | 08/03/08
Fanboy?  boed | 08/03/08
Got any numbers to back up this claim?  ye | 08/03/08
it does help to research your purchases.....  xuniL_z | 08/03/08
As others have pointed out...  Sleeper Service | 08/04/08
Just two questions.  Cardinal_Bill | 08/01/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  SpyKing | 08/01/08
spyware-fix.net ???  bart001fr | 08/05/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  howardc@... | 08/02/08
OneCare is crapware...  devlin_X | 08/02/08
I use them both  orcmid | 08/02/08
ULTIMATE SOLUTION  VONDRASHEK@... | 08/02/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  zwhittakerZDNet Moderator | 08/02/08
So, based on your definition, from your link....  xuniL_z | 08/04/08
freeware is your answer  bart001fr | 08/05/08
Thanks, but I didn't really have a question.  xuniL_z | 08/05/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  DisgustedOldMan | 08/03/08
You're 7 topics too late...  Sleeper Service | 08/04/08
2 issues  andycher | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  sderf@... | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  roysimons@... | 08/04/08
Definition: Crapware  Dr_Zinj | 08/04/08
Just give me a customized option during instal  Frank from Holland | 08/04/08
I agree, but make all the options at the start  GreyTech | 08/04/08
Info? Quantity?  stillgolfing | 08/05/08
You say crapware, I say spyware  akaltman@... | 08/04/08
More Anti-Competitive Bundling from MS  tomqhawk | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  wfd1 | 08/04/08
The Larger Issue  clindhartsen | 08/04/08
Crap by any other name is still crap...  mikifinaz1@... | 08/04/08
Defender doesn't slow down my PC  marks055@... | 08/04/08
RE: Junk is Junk no matter where it appears  stillgolfing | 08/04/08
Apologies  stillgolfing | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  rMatey | 08/04/08
Defender should be built in  mswift@... | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  jet1959mo@... | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  knudson | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  TrackStar1682 | 08/04/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  El Condor | 08/05/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  istari2ve2002@... | 08/05/08
it's all so crappy and second-rate  pikeman666 | 08/05/08
Windows Defender  Lost Cause? | 08/05/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  Buff Loon | 08/05/08
If I want it it's a performance enhancer, it I don't it's crapware  TtfnJohn | 08/05/08
Market Manipulation  tomam | 08/05/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  bridgidpnh | 08/05/08
All programs are crap that claim to boost performace  Randalllind | 08/06/08
I LOVE them both!  Miss_Pennie@... | 08/06/08
RE: I say crapware;  zclayton2 | 08/06/08
RE: I say crapware; you say 'performance enhancer'  vamp4r | 08/07/08
So you switched to an OS...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
It's crapware.  leet999@... | 08/13/08
Why do I need this???  rag@... | 11/19/08

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