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September 16th, 2008

Windows 7 hits Milestone 3

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 11:50 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, PDC 2008, Vista, Windows 7, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

I have seen the future — specifically Windows 7 Milestone 3 (Build 6780).

I got a gander at the latest test build of Windows 7 briefly (courtesy of a source of mine) and was not allowed to take any screenshots. But it is real, it does exist and it is, indeed, in certain testers’ hands inside and outside the company.

From the quick glimpse I got of Milestone 3, it sounds like Bryant of AeroXperience was right on the money with his hypotheses about what’s changed in the latest internal test builds. The latest build seems quite stable. The Ribbon user interface from Office 2007 is now part of WordPad and Paint. Home Groups — the functionality formerly known in “Longhorn”/Vista as “Castle” — is part of the new Windows 7 build.

I also noticed that the “Graphical Console,” a k a PowerShell Version 2, seems to be part of the latest pre-release Windows 7 build.

(Looks like Stephen Chapman over at the UX Evangelist site got to see Build 6780, too, and has a lot more to say on Windows 7’s Paint and WordPad.)

From what admittedly little I had a chance to see, Windows 7 does not look or feel like a major departure from Windows Vista.

Sources say there isn’t an “M4″ currently on Microsoft’s Windows 7 schedule. Next up is likely some kind of preview build (which may or may not be distributed to those attending the Professional Developers Conference and/or Windows Hardware Engineering Conference in October and November, respectively.) After that, a broadscale Beta 1, which should be feature-complete and pretty much set in stone, is expected for mid-December.

Like my ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott said, it’s not impossible for Microsoft to hit a 2009 release for Windows 7 if the first true beta doesn’t go out until December. Such a move would not be unprecedented.

Do you think the Softies are going to get Windows 7 out the door in 2009, as they are hoping — and maybe even early enough to make it onto new machines in time for Holiday 2009 sales?

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it's obvious  rtk | 09/17/08
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RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  HobbesPDX | 09/16/08
They dropped the ball on this one!  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
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re: Way to pick and choose...  MrCobra | 09/16/08
Security Development Lifecycle  mikefarinha | 09/16/08
re: Security Development Lifecycle  MrCobra | 09/18/08
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well  TedKraan | 09/18/08
Sorry I only answered the business side of his argument....  JoeMama_z | 09/16/08
That's all stuff  TedKraan | 09/17/08
What a silly argument  mikefarinha | 09/17/08
It wasn't a silly argument  TedKraan | 09/18/08
Very good question.  Cayble | 09/16/08
Truely spoken like someone who has never spent much time with Vista. NT  mikefarinha | 09/16/08
Way incorrect, honestly...  Cayble | 09/16/08
You should try gaming on Vista  mikefarinha | 09/16/08
I tried it  TedKraan | 09/17/08
What does Windows 7 offer a business that XP doesn't?  b.bob | 09/16/08
re: What does Windows 7 offer a business that XP doesn't?  MrCobra | 09/16/08
Many business do see value in what Vista ...  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
If you think of Windows 7 as the XP SP2 of Vista...  olePigeon | 09/17/08
Given the FULL feature set hasn't been published...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/17/08
What does XP Offer a business that 3.1 didn't?  gene_fitz@... | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  lawryll@... | 09/16/08
Re:  dvm | 09/17/08
That depends on the application, not the OS  D.M. | 09/17/08
Missing the OBVIOUS!  bentedgz | 09/17/08
Rushing it twice as fast will produce better results?  zeke123 | 09/16/08
More decadence  jabailo1 | 09/16/08
Tenuous?  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
Powershell?  storm14k | 09/16/08
same reason they would want Python/Bash/Korn.....  JoeMama_z | 09/16/08
But according to SOME of the MS faithful...  storm14k | 09/16/08
Who cares what SOME of the MS faithful say  Cayble | 09/16/08
Interesting....  storm14k | 09/16/08
believe it or not....  JoeMama_z | 09/16/08
Oh believe me...  storm14k | 09/16/08
I think you misunderstand the complaint....  JoeMama_z | 09/17/08
Problem is...  storm14k | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  JoeMama_z | 09/16/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Eduardo_z | 09/16/08
I disagree  mikefarinha | 09/16/08
The main reason....  eMJayy | 09/16/08
re: The main reason....  MrCobra | 09/16/08
The economic reason  stomfi@... | 09/16/08
Seen Microsoft SoftGrid?  JoeMama_z | 09/17/08
Another point ...  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
Screenshots anyone  n0neXn0ne | 09/17/08
Thanks  professordnm | 09/17/08
I have not a clue what you are asking ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/18/08
...and yet here you are.  MikeDevenney | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  DonBurnett | 09/17/08
Right on  ddmattison | 09/17/08
Fathers computer company  Crestview | 09/22/08
Errrr....  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 09/17/08
Apple a master at multi-tasking  Crestview | 09/22/08
Windows 7 in 2009?  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Pyrotech_z | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Pyrotech_z | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  gypkap@... | 09/17/08
Ribbon crap  professordnm | 09/17/08
Pfff  timiteh | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  thuss | 09/17/08
The inevitability of an upgrade...  SpikeyMike | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  nordyj2001@... | 09/17/08
Yep  crypt2121 | 09/17/08
Bless you!  professordnm | 09/17/08
@Ted  mikefarinha | 09/17/08
But  magallanes | 09/17/08
No doubt that .net framework 2.0 is good  TedKraan | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  crypt2121 | 09/17/08
RE: Is this just another Vista comercial  dumbfuer | 09/17/08
I remember Windows  schmandel@... | 09/17/08
Why? Maybe price. Maybe ease of use.  mwagner@... | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  emenau | 09/17/08
It should be simple, customizable. If not I'm gone!  sgrove | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  shanedr | 09/17/08
Vista = Best option available  Killivt03 | 09/17/08
Agreed!!  xxn1927 | 09/17/08
XP was a mild upgrade from 98?  mlemasney | 09/17/08
Not Just Microsoft...  bentedgz | 09/17/08
Bloat==$$  D.M. | 09/17/08
Explains quite a bit!  SpikeyMike | 09/17/08
Holy Cow Batman  AnthonySPT | 09/18/08
So basically  hawkeyeaz1 | 09/17/08
Seeing is believing...  3dtodd | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  gregpuzzles1 | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Relorian@... | 09/17/08
You already have Win 7 in hand....  Narg | 09/17/08
How much hardware will be junked?  Mahegan | 09/17/08
All of it  Relorian@... | 09/17/08
NT means"Not Trustworthy"  Mahegan | 09/17/08
NT means"Not Trustworthy"  D.M. | 09/17/08
Yawn - is anyone really excited  tony@... | 09/17/08
Linux MINT!  SpikeyMike | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  deowll | 09/17/08
Geez Louise there are a lot of comments on this post (NT)  chaiguy1337 | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  deowll | 09/17/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Fromster@... | 09/17/08
Windows 7 Beta wont have full release UI  InformedComment | 09/18/08
Will Win7 have the famous WGA?  Ole Man | 09/18/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  Joey1058 | 09/22/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  shanedr | 09/22/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  30YrVet | 09/22/08
"doesn't crash?" I've been in the industry for 30 years, and haven't seen  Ole Man | 09/22/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  rodonn | 09/22/08
The Registry!  Burningfeetman | 09/22/08
Windows 7 vs Linux?  NHMtnMan | 09/23/08
Ubuntu...  Information_z | 10/01/08
RE: Windows 7 hits Milestone 3  samsom111 | 09/28/08
Mojave hits Milestone 3  Resuna | 10/23/08

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