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October 3rd, 2008

Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 4:07 pm

Categories: Channel, OEMs, Resellers, System builders, Vista, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Media, OEM, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., System Builder, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software

Microsoft is sending some very confusing signals about Windows Vista — the latest of which it issued via a statement on October 3.

The Register reported on October 2 that Microsoft was going to extend again the date until which PC makers would be allowed to continue to offer Windows users “downgrade rights,” enabling them to switch from Vista to XP on new machines. The Reg said Microsoft had moved the downgrade cut-off date from January 31, 2009 to July 31, 2009.

I asked Microsoft about the Reg’s report and got this statement, via a company spokesperson:

 ”As more customers make the move to Windows Vista, we want to make sure that they are making that transition with confidence and that it is as smooth as possible. Providing downgrade media for a few more months is part of that commitment, as is the Windows Vista Small Business Assurance program (available in the U.S. only), which provides 1-on-1, customized support for our small business customers.”

In other words, the Reg’s story was correct.

The spokesperson sent further clarification:

“What’s changing is Microsoft is giving six more months where it will provide downgrade media for XP Professional for OEMs and system builders to provide to their customers who purchase Windows Vista Ultimate and Business editions – (which the company figures will be) largely going to be small businesses since that’s the audience that would want/use XP Pro. So it’s the same old downgrade right thing that was in the EULA (End User License Agreement) before; it’s just Microsoft is providing the media to partners a few months more.”

“The same caveat  with providing the downgrade media as before applies, which is OEMs and system builders don’t have to do so if they don’t want – it’s their business decision to make.”

Microsoft has extended XP’s end-of-life date before. In Apri 2008 l, Microsoft officials said the company was not going to extend again the date on which it required OEMs to stop preloading XP on new machines. That date was June 30, 2008. Microsoft did say that system builders, a k a white box vendors, would be allowed to continue to preload XP on new systems until January 31, 2009. OEMs and system builders both were OK’d to continue preloading XP on new ultra-low-cost systems through 2010, as many of those systems were and are incapable of running Vista.

Bottom line: Even though Microsoft is maintaining publicly that Vista is finally ready for prime time, it is allowing PC makers to continue to offer customers XP. So what’s a user to believe? Is Microsoft really standing behind Vista? And if it’s not — but instead is doing what customers really want (while simply giving lip-service to Vista’s readiness — is that still a positive?

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RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months
This issue is so frustrating to me and my clients for our own personal PC's! The people I know all love XP and we are greatly resenting being practically forced into the Vista O/S.

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Posted by: kellylinder@... Posted on: 11/16/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
How does this compare to...  Sleeper Service | 10/03/08
Also...  Sleeper Service | 10/05/08
So...  Linux User 147560 | 10/05/08
No...  Sleeper Service | 10/05/08
MS extends XP downgrade rights by six months  Raist1000 | 10/03/08
Stardate: 2436.9  MGP2 | 10/03/08
Looks like they're squirming  kozmcrae | 10/03/08
They looked at what real customers were doing, and...  jdickey | 10/03/08
So who are fake customers?  HypnoToad | 10/05/08
When they quit extending downgrade rights  Jack-Booted EULA | 10/04/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  ghot@... | 10/04/08
This is surely about the bottom line first...  MGP2 | 10/04/08
But how many are actually downgrading?  Pliny the Elder | 10/04/08
Actually, I'm one....  MGP2 | 10/04/08
And that's fine  Pliny the Elder | 10/05/08
My School downgraded  mystic100 | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  gertruded | 10/04/08
The title is misleading. It should be:  ye | 10/04/08
Who at Microsoft is your source for this?  B.O.F.H. | 10/04/08
End user. I have seen nothing showing a deadline for downgrading.  ye | 10/04/08
Did you follow the links in the article?  B.O.F.H. | 10/04/08
I followed a few of them. For example:  ye | 10/05/08
So you do understand that this only pertains to VARs/manufacturers?  B.O.F.H. | 10/05/08
You ended up with egg on your face. Deal with it. (nt)  ye | 10/05/08
Ye, your links don't even support your aruement!  B.O.F.H. | 10/05/08
@B.O.F.H.: My argument is:  ye | 10/05/08
Ye, the article (and date change) is pertinent to OEM systems only.  B.O.F.H. | 10/05/08
@B.O.F.H.: And I already told you my comment was...  ye | 10/05/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  FireThorn | 10/04/08
Yeah, Sure  Cardhu | 10/06/08
SMART  GeiselS@... | 10/04/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  jetsethi | 10/04/08
Message has been deleted.  qmlscycrajg | 10/04/08
Only a moron would knowingly use a DRM...  User07734 | 10/04/08
DRM don't mean nothing ...  LBiege | 10/04/08
Also, you don't even see the DRM  Lerianis | 10/05/08
I don't buy DRM protected contents so I'm not affected  qmlscycrajg | 10/05/08
So even though you did nothing wrong  Linux User 147560 | 10/05/08
not affected?  reedjjjr | 10/06/08
Walmart customers would disagree  mystic100 | 10/06/08
Business savvy?  Sleeper Service | 10/05/08
Uh, Yes.  User07734 | 10/05/08
LOL!  Sleeper Service | 10/05/08
Managers don't care  Lerianis | 10/05/08
Wrong again...  rbslack@... | 10/07/08
running Windows XP under Vista  ThinkFair | 10/04/08
This is totally stupid  Lerianis | 10/05/08
Definition of legacy  ibtechnologies@... | 10/06/08
You Hit The Nail Square On The Head  Cardhu | 10/06/08
RE:definition of legacy  rbslack@... | 10/07/08
Identify The Industries With Which You Have Actual Experience  Cardhu | 10/07/08
UAC Is The One Most Criticized Aspect of Vista  Cardhu | 10/06/08
Something else that is stupid  andrew@... | 10/06/08
They have no choice.  kraterz | 10/05/08
Then you've never used one or the other  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
This is 2008, not 1999.  kraterz | 10/06/08
Too many problems with even newer hardware  mystic100 | 10/06/08
Now That is atotal fabrication...  rbslack@... | 10/07/08
Reports Of Vista Problems Are Not Fabrications  Cardhu | 10/07/08
I Question The Piracy Claims  Cardhu | 10/07/08
Google "devilsown"  rtk | 10/07/08
WARNING! THE SEARCH TERM IN THE ABOVE POST  Cardhu | 10/07/08
Warning! The advice in the above post  rtk | 10/07/08
What You Consider A "Reference"  Cardhu | 10/07/08
Are you attempting humor?  rtk | 10/07/08
Your Search Recommendation Is Anything But Funny  Cardhu | 10/08/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  alandee4 | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  ibtechnologies@... | 10/06/08
What this means to us in manufacturing  dragosani | 10/06/08
Microsoft Is Indifferent  Cardhu | 10/06/08
Then you have bad systems....  fmg9800 | 10/06/08
You Plainly Have No Idea How Many Devices  Cardhu | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  shanedr | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  ITsupportGuy | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  wgrimes | 10/06/08
Cost of hardware  stomfi@... | 10/06/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  BradO931 | 10/07/08
Interoperability With Legacy Systems As A Requirement  Cardhu | 10/08/08
RE: Microsoft extends XP downgrade rights date by six months  kellylinder@... | 11/16/08

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