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November 7th, 2008

Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:52 am

Categories: Apple, Google, Internet Explorer

Tags: Microsoft Internet Explorer, Web Browsers, Internet, Mary Jo Foley, Microsoft Corp., IE 8, WebKit, Final IE 8

Despite the fact that many developers would welcome more rendering-engine compatibility, anyone expecting Microsoft to switch out its “Trident” engine and replace it with WebKit in Internet Explorer (IE) — especially in IE 8 — is misguided.

Comments this week by CEO Steve Ballmer set off speculation about Microsoft’s WebKit plans. Responding to a question during an appearance for the Australian development community, Ballmer said Microsoft could “from time to time take a look at” WebKit, the open-source rendering engine at the heart of the Apple Safari and Google Chrome browsers.

I can see a number of reasons Microsoft won’t be adopting WebKit any time soon — and not simply because introducing an open-source engine into a closed-source browser would set off many Softies’ alarm bells.

Just to be clear: I am not defending Microsoft’s decision to stick with Trident; I’m explaining what I believe to be the company’s philosophy around that decision. Here’s why I don’t see Microsoft switching allegiances to WebKit — at least not in the near term:

1. IE 8 is almost done, folks. Beta 2, which Microsoft released in August,  is expected to be the final public beta. The final IE 8 is due before the end of the year — which I’ve interpreted and heard  from sources meant “end of calendar 2008,” but I hear Microsoft might be claiming to be “end of fiscal 2009,” which would mean in the first half of 2009. In either case, Microsoft is not going to rip out Trident and replace it with WebKit at this late date.

2. Microsoft is pushing test cases, not rendering engines, as its best way to help ease developers’ compatibility headaches. Microsoft is releasing a growing set of test cases specific to IE as its preferred strategy for helping developers make sure their pages and apps will work with Microsoft’s browser.

3. Microsoft is not “consider(ing) adopting WebKit for Internet Explorer.” As my ZDNet blogging colleague Larry Dignan explained, all Ballmer actually said this week was WebKit was interesting and worth taking a look at. Microsoft looks at lots of competitive technologies on a regular basis. “Looking at” doesn’t equate to “adopt.”

I don’t know whether changing the IE 8 rendering engine from Trident to WebKit would wreak havoc on existing Web sites/apps that have been designed to work with current versions of IE. (Anyone out there have any thoughts on this?)

Perhaps there’s a way Microsoft could do this that wouldn’t be overly disruptive to the majority of users. One commentator, responding to a January 21 post on “Compatibility and IE 8″ on the Microsoft IE 8 blog suggested Microsoft introduce WebKit as a plug-in:

“Why not make the rendering engine a plugin, develop the engine as open-source but let the rest of the browser closed-source. Each browser will have its own proprietary interface, unique set of features, but at least the rendering engine will be essentially the same.”

Would it be feasible for Microsoft make WebKit a plug-in to IE? Would the company consider doing so with IE 9 (which, if Microsoft sticks to its current schedule, would be released in 2011 or so)?  Developers: What do you think Microsoft can, should and will do, regarding WebKit and IE?

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What's this have to do with Linux? All the major browsers run on Windows.

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Posted by: AzuMao Posted on: 10/02/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
No One Really Cares Anymore  itanalyst2@... | 11/07/08
What planet do you live on?  mdemuth | 11/07/08
You have to stop using Net Applications.  TripleII | 11/07/08
Until Net Applications shows an OSS majority it's not credible to zealots  transposeIT | 11/12/08
Those 7 out of 10 are the real web trend setters? NOT!!!- NT  raycote | 11/07/08
Sorry, most of those 7 are just zombies, so your point is moot.  AzuMao | 10/02/09
too bad  jk_10 | 11/07/08
Yeah, right...  aemarques@... | 11/07/08
It's closer to 50-60%.  TripleII | 11/07/08
In your Linux colored world it is..  transposeIT | 11/12/08
What's this have to do with Linux? All the major browsers run on Windows.  AzuMao | 10/02/09
I care  Speednet | 11/21/08
True. But just for the record, Google already did it. So ya, "feasible".  AzuMao | 10/02/09
RE: Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine  Loverock Davidson | 11/07/08
it works just fine  davey23 | 11/07/08
Microsoft cares about it.  tails5 | 11/08/08
Why are they even talking about it? (NT)  kozmcrae | 11/07/08
WebKit on Windows Mobile  odenni | 11/07/08
Well... yes and no  nix_hed | 11/08/08
Not exactly...  thenetavenger | 11/09/08
RE: Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine  wkulecz | 11/07/08
RE: Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine  bigsteve666 | 11/07/08
No, Firefox is not faster  Lerianis | 11/07/08
Screw those IE only sites they have earned it! - NT  raycote | 11/07/08
Even M$NBC works fine in other browsers.  nix_hed | 11/08/08
Not quite  RandomCake | 11/08/08
That is just not true  Speednet | 11/21/08
It'll NEVER happen...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/07/08
engine  vtbadboy | 11/07/08
RE: Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine  alex_b | 11/08/08
one browser, multile engines?  RandomCake | 11/08/08
RE: One browser, multiple engines??  bfilipiak@... | 11/08/08
Boo hoo  CobraA1 | 11/08/08
No way it's ever going to replace Trident.  CobraA1 | 11/08/08
RE: Why IE 8 won't use the WebKit rendering engine  Tiquor | 11/21/08
Just make it an open-source project  Speednet | 11/21/08
NOT INVENTED HERE syndrome  fantozzi | 11/22/08

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