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January 20th, 2009

Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 6:57 am

Categories: App Compatibility, Internet Explorer, Legal

Tags: Web, Opera Software, Microsoft Corp., Web Browser, Standards, Web Browsers, Internet, Mary Jo Foley

On January 15, the European Commission (EC) issued its “statement of objections” — basically, its prelinimary findings regarding a 2007 antitrust complaint levied by Opera Software against Microsoft  and its browser-related business practices.

Many industry observers (including yours truly) have considered Opera’s and the EC’s actions too be too late and misguided. That said, Opera wanted a chance to provide an update on its side of the story.

I had a chance to ask Opera Chief Technology Officer Hakon Wium Lie a few questions (via e-mail). Here is our exchange:

MJF: What has happened with the standards piece of Opera’s December 2007 complaint (your decision to go after Microsoft for not complying with ACID and other Web standards)? Is this still going forward as an antitrust complaint? Where is it at in the EC process, at this point?

Lie: In our communication with the Commission, we have stressed both the tying issue and the standards issue, and we believe the Commssion has a good understanding of both. We have not seen the Statement of Objections that was sent to Microsoft, so we do not know which issues the Commision seeks to address.

Also, the two are intertwined. Due to tying with Windows, Microsoft’s Internet Explorer has become the ubiquitous browser on the Web. How many people would use IE if you had to manually download and install it? However, since it’s ubiquitous, web authors are forced to code for IE rather than standards. As a result, the web is stuck in the IE-land with little chance of escaping. Few pages dare take advantage of all the standards-based features that the other browsers offer. Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) is one example of a specification that is widely support, except in IE.

MJF: A number of “industry observers” are saying that Opera is doing Google’s bidding with its browser complaint and that it’s actually Google who is pushing the EC to go after Microsoft in this matter. They point out that Opera board member Bill Raduchel and Google CEO Eric Schmidt used to work together at Sun and have a lot of mutual anti-Microsoft feelings/goals. Is Opera working with and/or on behalf of Google in this antitrust matter?

Lie: Opera is working on behalf of our own company, and for the Web. We are not working on behalf of other companies. It is crucial for the Web that no single vendor dominates — competition must be preserved both for browsers and search engines. We also collaborate with other companies, especially the members of ECIS.

(MJF note: ECIS is the European Committee for Interoperable Systems. Members include: Adobe, Corel, IBM, Nokia, Opera, Oracle, RealNetworks, Red Hat and Sun Microsystems.)

MJF: What is the remedy that Opera is seeing in the IE-Windows bundling arena? Are you encouraging the EC to force Microsoft to release a version of Windows without IE bundled? (And if so, how would you propose users who want Opera get it with no browser initially installed?) Or are you in favor of the court forcing Microsoft to ship as part of future versions of Windows a number of different browsers from which users can choose to install one or more?

Lie: There are many options. Like you suggest, it would be easy to add browsers to the Windows distribution and let the user make the choice. It should also be possible to configure Windows Update so that subscribers are asked which browser they prefer to install — IE8, Opera, or Firefox, perhaps? It would be handy for the user to know the size of the download, and the number of reboots necessary. Compliance with web standards could be a requirement for getting onto that list.

In any case, users should never be without a browser. The web is too important to be stuck without a browser anywhere, anytime. Opera is is working hard to make sure there’s a browser for every device.

I have mixed feelings about Opera’s ideas for providing users with browser options. I am all for choice and glad I have a choice of search providers. But requiring Microsoft to use Windows Update to deliver other browsers seems onerous. Providing three or four browsers on a DVD seems antiquated. And the whole “must comply with Web standards” thing makes me uneasy, as Web standards are constantly in flux. Should my choice of which browser I use really be curtailed by a test as to whether or not it complies with ACID? I hope it never is….

What do you think of Lie’s suggestions?

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RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field
Microsoft should acquire all of Opera Software's assets and then shut it down. Period. (Read the rest)
Posted by: motorhead1979@... Posted on: 06/07/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Web Standards & Windows Updates  Stuka | 01/20/09
Your obviously an Opera Company spokesperson right?  pcguy777 | 01/27/09
What a Lie - er  Roger Ramjet | 01/20/09
standards in flux  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 01/20/09
Just start somewhere first  Roger Ramjet | 01/20/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  DaveN_MVP | 01/20/09
Resolution is simple: Pay to eliminate the competition  terry flores | 01/20/09
Web standards are intended to damage Microsoft  Anton Philidor | 01/20/09
Opera = Good browser by a lazy company  croberts | 01/20/09
Yeah...  gamefreak9310 | 01/20/09
Being Norwegian Opera should know a lot about properity  InAction Man | 01/20/09
Being Norwegian Opera should know a lot about prosperity  InAction Man | 01/20/09
Agreed  Boot_Agnostic | 01/21/09
Windows update to send other companies software?  GuidingLight | 01/20/09
Level playing field  ErinieS | 01/20/09
Give me a break!  croberts | 01/20/09
Re; you anti-competitive leach.  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Uh-oh. NOW you've done it, croberts et al...  ejhonda | 02/02/09
Why should MS have a monopoly on Windows Update?  ye | 02/25/09
Ye, what  Aussie_Troll | 06/05/09
There is only one way to level the playing field  LittleGuy | 01/20/09
Are you kidding?  Tiggster | 01/20/09
Government regulation is essential. Lack of it results in subprime crisis,  InAction Man | 01/20/09
Are you equating...  rapson | 01/20/09
Nope! It's just a cautionary tale (nt)  InAction Man | 01/20/09
It has parallels in commerce  deaf_e_kate | 01/21/09
Just so you know, DOJ ruled to do just this 2 times until  LittleGuy | 01/21/09
Correction: Web standards are not constantly in flux, Web technology is  InAction Man | 01/20/09
Which is the problem.  TheWerewolf | 01/20/09
Asking the competition how to 'fix' the winner...  TheWerewolf | 01/20/09
We need government regulation  InAction Man | 01/20/09
your not really trying to compare the financial collapse and this....  JoeMama_z | 01/20/09
Which events and what regulations were lacking?  otaddy | 06/04/09
web standard?  jk_10 | 01/20/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  NStalnecker | 01/20/09
Just let us know when you have removed IE completely from  hkommedal | 01/27/09
That's baloney!  devils_advocate | 01/27/09
No it is NOT. These arguments DO hold water. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Is it just me or...  eeicke | 01/20/09
His last name is actually "Vium-Lie". "Lie" is pronounced as "Lee". (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Use of shortened surname in this article  Chalfont | 02/11/09
Most real users don't care what browser they run.  netapostle | 01/20/09
Try to remove IE. You can't. That is: Anti-competitive. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Can't remove IE  segolden | 02/26/09
No, it means that it is a necessary component of the operating system...  Marty R. Milette | 02/28/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  KGurtu | 01/20/09
but  Azathothh | 01/27/09
Firefox can be removed. IE can not. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Now that is a lot of Choice. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Here's how to do it...  Sleeper Service | 01/21/09
Remove IE completely and let us know how it goes (maybe next year).  hkommedal | 01/27/09
MS should just install Mosaic or HotJava  Boot_Agnostic | 01/23/09
I think...  spleendamage | 01/26/09
lol  Azathothh | 01/27/09
The others are removable. IE is NOT. That is Anti competition ! (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  TwighlightShadow1 | 01/26/09
What about sites that only work in IE?  drewitz@... | 01/26/09
All other browsers are removeable. BIG difference. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
How to get your first browser  pdf6161 | 01/27/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  gomfp | 01/27/09
Standards compliant IE  debnath_m@... | 01/27/09
Bundling IE WITH Windows is not the problem, but you can not  hkommedal | 01/27/09
It's really sad...  devils_advocate | 01/27/09
Wrong again. IE can not be removed ! That is anti-  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Not really...  devils_advocate | 01/27/09
To have IE unremovable IS anti-competitive and EU agrees on that. (nt)  hkommedal | 01/27/09
Totally arbitrary test  otaddy | 06/04/09
Antiquated?  rhon@... | 01/27/09
Opera is going about it the wrong way...  svpaladin@... | 02/05/09
Dumb argument  sir4taye@... | 02/10/09
Ridiculoussssssssssssssssssssssss  Nsaf | 02/25/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  faceman888 | 02/26/09
What about other systems? OSX, Linux, Smartphones, etc  seaniepie | 02/26/09
RE: Opera CTO: Here's how to level the browser playing field  motorhead1979@... | 06/07/09

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