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January 25th, 2007

Backwards compatibility: When can (and should) vendors cry uncle?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 12:13 pm

Categories: App Compatibility, Vista, Windows XP, Windows client

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My ZDNet blogging colleague David Berlind is sounding the bell — actually, more like calling in a five-alarmer — regarding the fact that older versions of Intuit's QuickBooks won't work on Windows Vista.

I love a conspiracy blaze as much as the next blogger. But I'm not sure I am seeing as much smoke and fire as Berlind on this one.

I chatted with Intuit QuickBooks Product Manager George Jacquette this week about Intuit's Vista plans. Jacquette said that QuickBooks 2007, which the company rolled out last fall, is Intuit's solution for customers who want to run the company's accounting suite on Microsoft's latest Windows release. Intuit is releasing some downloadable patches for things like 64-bit Vista support in order to make sure that QuickBooks 2007 works right on Vista, starting on January 30, when Vista becomes available worldwide.

What about earlier versions of QuickBooks?

"We are not going to support (Vista) with our earlier versions," Jacquette said. "Microsoft changed file management and permissions in Vista in a way that it won't make it easy for our core QuickBooks product to be easily rewritten to support."

Is Intuit mad that Vista "broke" older versions of QuickBooks? Jacquette didn't seem overly concerned.

"Security enhancements like standard user in Vista are needed. In the past, you needed to be an administrator to be a QuickBooks user. Now, you don't have to. This change is for the global good," he said.

A more pertinent question, of course, is whether QuickBooks users will scream bloody murder over the fact they can't use older copies of QuickBooks on Vista. Berlind found one user who is none too happy. But will others care?

Accounting software isn't something that will make use of the fancy Aero graphics that are part of Vista. And like lawyers, accountants don't strike me as folks who strive to be on the cutting edge of technology.

Another question: Is it Intuit's fault that its older products don't work on Vista? Or Microsoft's fault for changing the operating system in a way that it breaks them? The fact that Microsoft has decided not to make available publicly a list of apps that don't work right with Vista makes me wonder whether there could be lots more examples like QuickBooks. But when an application vendor throws in the towel and decides agains trying to retrofit apps, can and should Microsoft be blamed?

To me, Intuit is making the choice Apple made a few years back when it drew a line in the sand and decided to cut off bakcwards compatibility for users of older versions of the Mac OS operating system. Microsoft has yet to do the same, although a number of company watchers believe that it won't take the Redmondians too much longer to decide that it can't keep make supporting old versions of third-party and Microsoft apps a priority.

What do you think? When can — and should — Microsoft decide to release a less bloated, less-dependency-ridden version of Windows, even if it breaks older apps? What should be the cut-off point for backwards compatibility support? Apps up to five years old will be guaranteed to work? Ten?

And any mad QuickBooks customers out there who are champing at the bit to run older versions of your software on Vista? If you're out there, weigh in.

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Absolutely!
Any application which requires administrative rights for doing anything OTHER than system administration is BROKEN!

The fact that M$ made it so easy and normal to run in admistrative mode is irrelevant.... (Read the rest)
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I agree with MaryJo on this one  otaddy | 01/25/07
Weeeeellllllll Maybe?  Cardinal_Bill | 01/25/07
MS didnt force you  otaddy | 01/25/07
A couple of things...  Cardinal_Bill | 01/25/07
I dont understand  otaddy | 01/25/07
True: To a certain point  LegendsOfBatman | 01/26/07
Backward Compatibility...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/26/07
It's Intuit's fault  georgeou | 01/25/07
But then QB 07 might not sell as well.  Anton Philidor | 01/25/07
2007 has been fixed  georgeou | 01/25/07
Exactly.  Anton Philidor | 01/25/07
Correct  LegendsOfBatman | 01/26/07
You're 100% correct.  notsofast | 01/26/07
Of course  bmgoodman | 01/26/07
Absolutely!  r_widell | 01/31/07
Microsoft not Intuit  Bob The Cat | 01/25/07
How Are We Ever Going To Have  Moosehouse | 01/25/07
It's quite possible  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/07
You need to remember Windows' history  ye | 01/25/07
Minor details  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/07
Your point?  ye | 01/25/07
And who does it right the first time?  georgeou | 01/25/07
Just a guess...  SpikeyMike | 01/26/07
Take a look at the history of UNIX  frgough | 01/26/07
Uh.. Ok..  Wolfie2K3 | 01/26/07
It can be done  frgough | 01/26/07
Why bother?  Wolfie2K3 | 01/26/07
What utter FUD...!  Wolfie2K3 | 01/26/07
You miss the point...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/25/07
You have said but failed to support  ye | 01/25/07
The backward compatibility wizard...  Anton Philidor | 01/25/07
Not sure about your point  MaxPerino | 01/25/07
They did publish the requirements  donw1234 | 01/27/07
I suspect that if users disable UAC on Vista  ye | 01/25/07
Future Windows Compatibility  Windows-Now.com | 01/25/07
A question or four.  Cardinal_Bill | 01/25/07
Sounds like chroot  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/07
Jim Allchin Interview on Compatibility  Windows-Now.com | 01/25/07
DLL Hell  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/07
What do you mean by...  ye | 01/25/07
Definitions  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/25/07
How is this related to versioning?  ye | 01/25/07
You can run DLLs side by side  t_mohajir | 01/25/07
Has nothing to do with DLLs  georgeou | 01/25/07
Static linking preceeded dynamic linking  ye | 01/25/07
Virtual PC 2007 Beta  Xwindowsjunkie | 01/26/07
The have/had the answer for a long time  TripleII | 01/25/07
5 year Quicken user...  cromwellryan@... | 01/25/07
Same Old Same Old  JJ Brannon | 01/26/07
Why Admin rights?  eswenson | 01/26/07
But....  dkunzman@... | 01/26/07
Intuit's Upgrade or Else Policy  spindruiz@... | 01/26/07
Cost Effective Business Model  Dr_Zinj | 01/26/07
Vista didn't change persmissions from XP  PB_z | 01/26/07
It isn't just accoutants who use Quickbooks  drdelta@... | 01/26/07
Intuit deserves whatever hell it catches on this  Jim Johnson | 01/26/07
Stop me if youve heard this before  LegendsOfBatman | 01/26/07
QUICKBOOKS ON MS OPERATING SYSTEMS  kotpcc | 01/26/07
QuickBooks is NOT for accountants  alexeig | 01/26/07
Will Google please come to the mic?  alexeig | 01/26/07
THIS IS DIGITAL!  BALTHOR | 01/26/07
The fix is simple...  Dr. John | 01/26/07
Ubuntu  doctordawg | 01/26/07
Evolve, please, but at you own pace.  AllGeek2Me | 01/27/07
Intuit's arrogant refusal to fix their security problem  AES2 | 01/29/07
They don't make cars liked they used to either.  steventwill | 01/31/07

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