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March 6th, 2009

Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 8:41 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Legal, Linux, Open source

Tags: Patent, TomTom, Microsoft Corp., Mary Jo Foley

The Microsoft-TomTom patent case is proof that Microsoft’s patent-licensing policies are untenable for open-source software vendors.

That’s the conclusion my ZDNet blogging colleague Jason Perlow came to in his must-read post this week on theTomTom case.

Perlow and a growing number of other bloggers and reporters have looked more deeply into the particulars of the eight Microsoft patents upon which Redmond claimed last week (via two lawsuits) TomTom’s GPS system infringes. Three of those patents involve Linux and FAT, the file-allocation table technology for which Microsoft holds a patent.

Lots of different consumer-electronics vendors have incorporated FAT into the operating systems that power their devices and SD cards. Microsoft has managed to get a handful of them — including other GPS-system makers Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer — to sign (and pay for) FAT patent licenses. But TomTom has declined so far to follow suit.

Perlow surfaced a blog comment by open-source champion and Samba principal Jeremy Allison in which Allison noted the damned if they do/damned if they don’t choice that companies like TomTom are facing:

“It isn’t a case of cross-license and everything is ok. If Tom Tom or any other company cross licenses patents then by section 7 of GPLv2 (for the Linux kernel) they lose the rights to redistribute the kernel *at all*.

“Microsoft has been going around and doing these patent cross licensing deals with companies under NDA’s so they never come to light for *years*.”

Indeed, Microsoft and its patent cross-licensing partners — of which there are hundreds of companies of all sizes and in both consumer and business segments — seldom call out which patents are involved, the dollar-size or particulars of those deals. But it’s looking more and more like the open sourcers are right and TomTom is the canary in the Linux-patent coal mine.

What’s your prediction as to what will happen next in the Microsoft-TomTom case?

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Posted by: Ole Man Posted on: 03/11/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
What will happen next?  RickyF | 03/06/09
Ain't that the truth. (nt)  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/06/09
Oh, please  frgough | 03/06/09
Society Benefits  bigpicture | 03/06/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Wow.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/06/09
Already have.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
really?  Badgered | 03/06/09
Yeah. Really.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
The Truth Is...  htotten | 03/06/09
The Truth Is...  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
The Tom Tom  rtk | 03/08/09
Not in this lifetime...  Badgered | 03/06/09
My, it's quite nice to deal with such civility in this day and age.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
lol  Badgered | 03/06/09
Are my eyes not open?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
No, you haven't  rtk | 03/08/09
Its pretty disturbing  Loverock Davidson | 03/06/09
What. You mean you spend money to support companies you don't agree with?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
I'm sure they're losing sleep in Redmond...  TheWerewolf | 03/06/09
Yeah. And Nixon was president.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Like I said... its disturbing... (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 03/06/09
yet  Badgered | 03/06/09
Please educate me.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Ok, here ya go...  Badgered | 03/06/09
I'm pretty sure we've been here before...  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
I DO remember...  Badgered | 03/06/09
So what do you want me to do about it?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Nothing....  Badgered | 03/06/09
Infringement of your ethics????  MGP2 | 03/06/09
Guess I have to agree to a bit.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Not only that....  MGP2 | 03/06/09
Hey....just figured a way to reduce the money MS gets.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Cough Cough  nizuse | 03/06/09
Oh man...  MGP2 | 03/06/09
Hopefully ...  johnfenjackson@... | 03/06/09
Wake up.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/06/09
A better title would be  GuidingLight | 03/06/09
2 possibilities.  TripleII | 03/06/09
Er, what Microsoft wants is  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/06/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  Loverock Davidson | 03/06/09
Uh...unless you are buying TomTom products don't expect them to listen.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
Embarassing  nizuse | 03/06/09
What he said  waecaidr@... | 03/06/09
I take it you cannot read?  ITSa341@... | 03/11/09
I see this as Old Man Microsoft.  kozmcrae | 03/06/09
Microsoft has the right to its patents just as open source can enfore GPL  BrutalTruth | 03/06/09
I, too, am enjoying the irony in all this  frgough | 03/06/09
True.....But only if......  linux for me | 03/06/09
Sorry, this is a weak argument  frgough | 03/06/09
RE: ... this is a weak argument  n0neXn0ne | 03/06/09
Read the post  frgough | 03/06/09
RE: ... the post  n0neXn0ne | 03/06/09
You should patent  frgough | 03/06/09
@frgough ... brick wall or strawman  n0neXn0ne | 03/06/09
Atually IBM had that before MS.  hkommedal | 03/09/09
You just invalidated your own argument......  linux for me | 03/07/09
Cleanroom doesn't matter for patents.  wolf_z | 03/08/09
Except that software patents are not recognized worldwide...  obvio.capitao@... | 03/07/09
TomTom sells in the US...  wolf_z | 03/08/09
Hold on a second - which evil are we talking about?  TheWerewolf | 03/06/09
Part II  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/09
I think you will find that in the past MS has been hurt a lot  hkommedal | 03/09/09
M$ is merely spreading FUD with invalid patents  Linux Geek | 03/06/09
Well, not to worry...  MGP2 | 03/06/09
Dude. Have another drink.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 03/06/09
What makes you say that?  MGP2 | 03/06/09
What does Patents do?  Mectron | 03/06/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  hippoz99 | 03/06/09
Interesting Posts  preachjohn | 03/06/09
FAT Patent Means Hardware Dollars For Microsoft  n0neXn0ne | 03/06/09
Wht does linux have to do with this case?  Sleeper Service | 03/07/09
Pay attention to Groklaw  obvio.capitao@... | 03/07/09
Do Patents Not Expire?  Larry Caldwell | 03/07/09
Typically 20 years  Tony Agudo | 03/07/09
In the software industry, 20 years is an eternity  obvio.capitao@... | 03/07/09
Oh, and the problem is with FAT32/vFAT, not FAT16  Tony Agudo | 03/07/09
32GB?  V@... | 03/07/09
It's already in Windows  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 03/07/09
They had better decide soon.  V@... | 03/07/09
Distributing Linux means you are bound by the GPL.  Zogg | 03/08/09
ok, ok. I stand corrected.  V@... | 03/08/09
Something tells me that exFAT isn't an unencumbered system.  Zogg | 03/08/09
Agreed. All ownership for ANYTHING granted as an Open Standard  V@... | 03/08/09
UDF file system seems to be a good idea.  hkommedal | 03/09/09
No choice but to kill open source  obvio.capitao@... | 03/07/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  bigpicture | 03/07/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  NobodyReal | 03/07/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  NobodyReal | 03/07/09
There is also the question of "non-obviousness"  Zogg | 03/08/09
Latest news  Alan Smithie | 03/09/09
Ext3/4 is already a free and open file standard  trentreviso | 03/09/09
RE: Chewing the FAT in the Microsoft vs. TomTom case  johnroberts_abroad | 03/10/09
Kings of patent trolls  Ole Man | 03/11/09

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