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February 16th, 2007

Ballmer: Novell deal proves open source needs to 'respect IP rights'

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 9:03 am

Categories: App Compatibility, Corporate strategy, Linux, Novell, Windows server

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The same week that Microsoft issued a press release providing further details about some of the technological advances that will result from the November 2006 technology agreement between Novell and Microsoft, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer told Wall Street what he really thinks the deal means to Microsoft.

During a forecast update meeting for financial analysts and shareholders on February 15, Ballmer reiterated that, to him, the deal is more about Microsoft exerting intellectual property (IP) pressure on Novell than anything else.

Ballmer didn't talk up technological cross-collaboration. He didn't mention helping customers with interoperability challenges. He didn't mention new sales opportunities. Instead, he said:

"The deal that we announced at the end of last year with Novell I consider to be very important. It demonstrated clearly the value of intellectual property even in the Open Source world. I would not anticipate that we make a huge additional revenue stream from our Novell deal, but I do think it clearly establishes that Open Source is not free and Open Source will have to respect intellectual property rights of others just as any other competitor will."

Ballmer has riled the Novell management team more than once by hinting that Microsoft believes that Novell and other open-source vendors are violating Microsoft patents.

(This past weekend, in an interview with LinuxWorld, former Novell employee and lead Samba developer Jeremy Allison, when asked about supposed Microsoft threats over alleged open-source patent violations, said the rumors were true.

"I have had people come up to me and essentially off the record admit that they had been threatened by Microsoft and had got patent cross license and had essentially taken out a license for Microsoft patents on the free software that they were using, which they then cannot redistribute. I think that would be the restriction. I would have to look quite carefully. So, essentially that’s not allowed. But they’re not telling anyone about it. They’re completely doing it off the record," Allison said.)

Until customers come forward and admit these Microsoft threats, it's gong to be tough to prove Allison's contention.

But it isn't difficult to see that Microsoft's brass sees the Microsoft-Novell deal as being, above all else, about setting a precedent by getting an open-source vendor to pay royalties for IP.

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Re: Shutup Troll!
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Funny that Novell was infringing...  mrlinux | 02/16/07
No one said that at all...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
Everyone else except...  jasonp@... | 02/16/07
Shutup Troll!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/18/07
Re: Shutup Troll!  handydan918 | 04/09/07
Who is casting the first stone?  JJQ1000 | 04/09/07
Microsoft paid for Novell IP...  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
So what you're saying here....  bportlock | 02/16/07
Sure.  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
"Think of Novell as Apple managed by Sun."  nomorems | 02/16/07
Funny you mention Apple and SUN.  xuniL_z | 02/19/07
Learn YOUR history, jack!  JJQ1000 | 04/09/07
Novell Didn't Call Microsoft.  darkonc | 02/21/07
I see nothing not accurate in his statement.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
If you read the link about the interview with Jeremy...  mrlinux | 02/16/07
Sorry but Jeremy lacks any credibility...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
And yet he appears to have more credability than No_Ax.  B.O.F.H. | 02/16/07
No, Jeremy has credibility  zkiwi | 02/16/07
its funny,,  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
So...  zkiwi | 02/18/07
What would be in violation  xuniL_z | 02/19/07
Erm...  zkiwi | 02/19/07
Guess all you are about is cash.  nomorems | 02/16/07
No, I own  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/17/07
He did say a while back he was unemployed for the past decade.  B.O.F.H. | 02/18/07
how does that mean he lacks credibility??  mdsmedia | 02/20/07
Not sure you are one to comment n this.  B.O.F.H. | 02/16/07
You seem to be confused.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
Open just means that you can read it.  B.O.F.H. | 02/16/07
Let me help you out.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/18/07
Please stop pretending you are not a moron!  B.O.F.H. | 02/18/07
Humpty Dumpty's Dictionary  Still Lynn | 02/18/07
Perhaps then  xuniL_z | 02/19/07
yep, and you asked it at the end of a thread  mdsmedia | 02/20/07
Re: I see nothing not accurate in his statement.  none none | 02/16/07
Nope...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/17/07
Open Source infringes less than Microsoft does  jinko | 02/17/07
YOu mena no one has taken  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/17/07
What are your talking about!  DemonX | 02/17/07
Would you care to put a bet on  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/18/07
Did you know that MS Word started out as a wrapper for Wordstar?  B.O.F.H. | 02/17/07
More legit  xuniL_z | 02/19/07
To quote Monty Python  zkiwi | 02/19/07
Balmer is his own worst enemy.  TripleII | 02/16/07
Novell isn't all open source.  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
Clarification  TripleII | 02/16/07
Would that you were right.  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
Absolutely  TripleII | 02/16/07
for once I can agree with you Anton  mdsmedia | 02/20/07
WHERE??  justanitguy | 02/20/07
it was not said in THIS article  mdsmedia | 02/20/07
Why bother?  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
I think you'll find that Novell...  mdsmedia | 02/20/07
Another vote for Windows.  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
Windows, the epitome of human achievement?  msolgeek | 02/16/07
If that asteroid hit...  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
Smoke on....  techboy_z | 02/16/07
Another Vote For Windows  Ole Man | 02/17/07
Microsoft mantra  LittleGuy | 02/16/07
As a shareholder, I love this....  Mike Cox | 02/16/07
Not immediately, Mike.  Anton Philidor | 02/16/07
8.0  John L. Ries | 02/17/07
Chew on this one Mikey,  LittleGuy | 02/16/07
Thanks LittleGuy  msolgeek | 02/16/07
another link you might find good reading...  Arm A. Geddon | 02/16/07
The pendulum is starting to swing  LittleGuy | 02/16/07
9.0  John L. Ries | 02/16/07
Mike Cox...  ogmanx@... | 02/19/07
Microsoft must respect GPL terms..  thetruth_z | 02/16/07
You need to read the GPL again I think.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
reag GPL.. what you really need to ask..  thetruth_z | 02/16/07
You do not understand what you are talking about.  mobrien_12@... | 02/16/07
You don't understand the finer points of our legal system  thetruth_z | 02/17/07
You are on drugs dude.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/17/07
You do not understand anything.  mobrien_12@... | 02/17/07
See how frustrating that is?  Still Lynn | 02/18/07
You are right.  steven.coco-20528009853912798495558256037254 | 02/21/07
Reading is a problem  zkiwi | 02/16/07
And you are only 100% WRONG  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/17/07
You're a little bit presuming they  zkiwi | 02/17/07
Microsoft isn't an inventor  DemonX | 02/16/07
does not have a clue !!  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
Marketing agreements prove nothing in terms of IP rights ...  George Mitchell | 02/16/07
Depends what you mean by prove.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/16/07
Don, you are correct of course, BUT ...  George Mitchell | 02/16/07
Yes they do.  DemonX | 02/16/07
Posturing and Bravado  D. T. Schmitz | 02/16/07
nobody is above the law  zzz1234567890 | 02/16/07
What would prove it, is Balmer clearly stating every patent that is  DonnieBoy | 02/16/07
Is Ballmer kidding?  linux for me | 02/16/07
PU. Smell the socialism. [nt]  Omch'Ar | 02/16/07
Linux is socialism. What is Windows?  HypnoToad72 | 02/17/07
Steve Ballmer can  bmobile40 | 02/16/07
Hah  mobrien_12@... | 02/16/07
That's about as stupid  Ole Man | 02/17/07
FOSS dont know it, it appears  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
Your Name Truly Reflects Your Agenda  Ole Man | 02/26/07
Users want to be churned!  B.O.F.H. | 02/17/07
here's why  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
Have you failed to notice Microsofts main competition?  B.O.F.H. | 02/18/07
Hmmm....  zkiwi | 02/19/07
Ballmer is right, FOSS is WRONG!!  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274983729713522403  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/18/07
Ummm... what IP are the violating?  jeromatron | 02/18/07
Biggest Troll On The ZD  Ole Man | 02/26/07
GPL books  sagalout | 02/18/07
GPL for books  Aussie_Troll | 02/18/07
The term "Linux" is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.  B.O.F.H. | 02/18/07
Dance monkey-boy!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/18/07
Ballmer same as watson(IBM)  lotta_anger | 02/19/07
"Open source is not free"  Khaotic_One | 02/19/07
Microsoft...  ogmanx@... | 02/19/07
Unclear about your stance, but...  Omch'Ar | 02/19/07
Sorry...  Omch'Ar | 02/19/07
GPL keeps the SOFTWARE free.  darkonc | 02/21/07
The GPL can still Bite MS  darkonc | 02/21/07
It's Microsoft That Wanted This Deal.  darkonc | 02/21/07

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