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February 21st, 2007

Vista's UAC needs an overhaul. Ideas?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 2:33 pm

Categories: App Compatibility, Security, Vista, Windows client

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It seems like everyone, other than possibly Microsoft's Vista team itself, seems to believe that the User Account Control (UAC) in Vista already needs an overhaul. The question is, who is going to do it? And what form will it take?

UAC has given some Microsoft and third-party applications incompatibility fits. It's also leading to problems for some users trying to write to an external hard drive.

So who will step up and take the UAC fix-it challenge? Will it be Microsoft itself? A security consulting firm? A Microsoft competitor, like Symantec, which has said it is interested in delivering an alternative to UAC? Or perhaps a more neutral third-party software vendor?

The most sensible answer, of course, would be for Microsoft to step in and revamp UAC so that fewer customers shut it off and risk security problems in order to rid themselves of automatic pop-up annoyances.

Short of that, perhaps there's another way to fix UAC. On Stardock's WinCustomize site, there's a hypothetical discussion about alternative ways UAC could be made to function better:

"Imagine the UAC remembering what users had given it permission to previously? Right now, every time I open up Stardock Central, I'm prompted by UAC. Very annoying. What if after I selected 'continue,' it saved Stardock Central and its checksum such that it wouldn't come up again for that program as long as it was unchanged?

"Another example would be after I select continue on the UAC, the account remains in an elevated state for say 5 minutes (or some user-defined time) so that anything else that needs UAC would automatically be passed."

Most Valuable Professional (MVP) Donna Buenaventura suggests that admins can solve many UAC problems by simply making UAC invisible to standard users by changing a few Group Policy-settable options.

What do you think? Would any of these alterations alleviate Vista's UAC problems? Or is there another solution out there for users who have gone or plan to go Vista?

(And how about something other than the predictable round of "buy Mac, buy Linux, stay with Windows 95" this time around?)

Hat tip to my fellow ZDNet blogger Ryan Naraine over at the Zero Day security blog for help with this post.

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RE: Vista's UAC needs an overhaul. Ideas?
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Posted by: jferner Posted on: 10/09/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
It's the user who needs the overhaul, not UAC  Michael Kelly | 02/21/07
Yeah, and when you go home tonite, be sure...  rayted32 | 02/21/07
I'll do that  Michael Kelly | 02/21/07
More like  Fevrin | 02/21/07
Re: It's the user who needs the overhaul, not UAC  none none | 02/21/07
Simple  Michael Kelly | 02/21/07
Re: Simple  Letophoro | 02/22/07
Well that's another Windows problem  Michael Kelly | 02/22/07
RE: It's the user who needs the overhaul, not UAC  gdstark13 | 02/22/07
Think about what you're saying  Michael Kelly | 02/22/07
RE: Think about what you're saying  gdstark13 | 02/22/07
I suppose you're right  Michael Kelly | 02/22/07
RE: I suppose you're right  gdstark13 | 02/22/07
I see...  dolph0291 | 02/22/07
That new Mac commercial is pretty funny  Fevrin | 02/21/07
Why couldn't they just have got it right first time?  whisperycat | 02/21/07
What's wrong with it now?  ye | 02/21/07
So... by your logic.  NefNef | 02/22/07
Good thing it wasn't mine.  ye | 02/23/07
wow  Badgered | 02/23/07
Bad ideas  ye | 02/21/07
Re: Bad ideas  hillr | 02/21/07
Very simple -  boed | 02/21/07
I wish I could offer a suggestion...  MGP2 | 02/21/07
Here's one thing that I will do..  explorer5 | 02/21/07
uac  g_keramidas@... | 02/21/07
UAC was gone before the end of Day 1  zaine_ridling | 02/21/07
I hope you open a malicious Word document and it trashes your system  PB_z | 02/21/07
disgusted  KingSky | 02/22/07
Reasons why the ideas are bad  PB_z | 02/21/07
copy ubuntu  Scott W | 02/22/07
oh...  Scott W | 02/22/07
Good idea, but...  rapson | 02/22/07
Exactly  mtgarden | 02/23/07
the UAC is inflexible  ramarc | 02/22/07
a different perspective  Insight Driver | 02/22/07
WRITE ONE OPERATING SYSTEM THAT IS USER FRIENDLY  BALTHOR | 02/22/07
UAC versus the User  PeterPac | 02/22/07
If you don't like it don't use it! OR get educated!  andrej770 | 02/22/07
Bitchin & Complainin  Ole Man | 02/23/07
Off with its head!  DullingWine | 02/22/07
Agree  PeterPac | 02/22/07
Tempest in a teapot  wolf_z | 02/23/07
Remind Me  rkuhn040172@... | 02/23/07
God Help Us All  Ole Man | 02/23/07
Maybe Vista needs sudo?  JDThompson | 02/23/07
RE: Vista's UAC needs an overhaul. Ideas?  jferner | 10/09/07
RE: Vista's UAC needs an overhaul. Ideas?  jferner | 10/09/07

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