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March 6th, 2007

Microsoft responds to DOT ban on Vista, Office 2007

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:11 am

Categories: App Compatibility, Corporate strategy, Internet Explorer, Office 2007, Vista, Windows client

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The Department of Transportation has put an indefinite ban on upgrades to Windows Vista, Internet Explorer 7 and Office 2007, as first reported by Information Week.

Here's the DOT memo outlining the Vista "moratorium," dated January 19.

"Based on our initial analysis (from internal recommendations and analysis by Gartner Group), there appears to be no compelling technical or business case for upgrading to these new Microsoft products," according to the memo from Daniel Mintz, DOT Chief Information Officer.

In fact, there are a number of reasons for not upgrading, Mintz said, including the hardware/software/services costs of upgrading; backward compatibility problems with Office 2007, specifically Word (I'm guessing he's referring to the new XML file formats here, but not sure); internal funding limitations; and a pending DOT headquarters move.

What's Microsoft's response to the DOT's charges? A corporate spokeswoman sent me this statement, via e-mail:

"We respect the customer's decision. As with any of our other Federal customers, it's our job to help DOT maximize the value of its Enterprise Agreement through the adoption of our technology. We are engaged with large, strategic customers across government at every level, and are working closely with them on these products through their participation in our Technical Adoption Programs.

"Windows Vista, Office 2007, and IE7 are widely recognized by independent analysts to offer dramatic improvements in security, management features, new collaboration capabilities and productivity enhancements. Ultimately we think we can help DOT understand how these products can help its enterprise organization.

"As DOT goes through the natural process of exploring the new capabilities of these products we expect they will continue to embrace Windows and Office as the departmental standard of DOT.

"Overall our government customers are excited about the technology as well as our product pipeline. Just last week more than 500 Public Sector CIOs from across the country joined us for our annual US Public Sector CIO Summit. The Summit offered these CIOs to see firsthand how Microsoft is working to be a strategic partner to government and educational institutions of every size."

Anyone know of other companies and/or organizations calling for a similar blanket Vista/Office/IE 7 ban?

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They actually need quite a bit more.
Yeah. Especially the largest part of the DOT: FAA. They don't use computers at all. They mostly just plot flight paths and develop engineering standards using a stylus and a wax tablet.

C'mon now.... (Read the rest)
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This really only makes sense. The average DOT user just needs SIMPLE word  DonnieBoy | 03/06/07
Hmmm, this looks like a job for...  rayted32 | 03/06/07
So you're telling us you work for DOT now?  John Zern | 03/06/07
You're right, Donnie - the DOT wouldn't have need for, say, engineers...  Zeppo9191 | 03/06/07
And you know this how?  ken_ballard@... | 03/07/07
They actually need quite a bit more.  Corsulian | 12/19/08
Sure  mtgarden | 03/06/07
So true  maldain | 03/06/07
About web-based apps  CobraA1 | 03/06/07
The DOT are falling in line  whisperycat | 03/06/07
I coudn't have said it better  DarthRidiculous | 03/06/07
Yes but you will hear from MS minions  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
The Daniel Wallace argument  Still Lynn | 03/06/07
That's not true  John Zern | 03/06/07
Ummm...so you are telling me that Linux and OSS is linked to a 'company'?  nomorems | 03/06/07
I wouldn't bother with John  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Your analogy is flawed...  man_on_the_hill | 03/06/07
Nope!  nomorems | 03/06/07
Re: That's not true  dbneeley | 03/07/07
Okay, that's humorous...  bill@... | 03/06/07
Very easy to have choices and there still be an active monopoly.  nomorems | 03/06/07
What part of this story is about choice?  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
The part about chosing not deploy Vista, like you said.  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Obligatory  tekspek1 | 03/06/07
So, since there's no 'forced upgrade' issue here...  bill@... | 03/06/07
YOU don't understand Monopoly. You are using the Microsoft double speak.  nomorems | 03/06/07
Your assumptions are erroneous  bill@... | 03/06/07
You still don't get it, Microsoftie.  nomorems | 03/06/07
A waste of your time  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
A troll...HA HA!  nomorems | 03/06/07
Sure you'll find it...  xuniL_z | 03/07/07
Your definition is erroneous  chemist109 | 03/08/07
Don't feed the Whimperycat Troll  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
Open Source ain't the enemy  bill@... | 03/06/07
I reallt have a hard time understanding what either are so f'ing afraid of  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
It's obvious  xuniL_z | 03/08/07
Thanks for the reply  jacarter3 | 03/08/07
You're welcome. However I still have to say  xuniL_z | 03/10/07
Wisdom of a Troll  Ole Man | 03/10/07
Take His Advice  Ole Man | 03/06/07
Micro-who? (nt)  SpikeyMike | 03/06/07
You know, that new SUSE Linux vendor 8^)  JonathonDoe | 03/06/07
The one that Microsoft  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
Micro-sheep!!  D-EIKE | 03/06/07
Some for the list  TripleII | 03/06/07
Wishes granted  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
That's what they are wishing, but fighting to prevent  TripleII | 03/06/07
And more  IT_User | 03/08/07
Not a blanket ban.. but very very linmited  sweklaweklfwe@... | 03/06/07
But Vista sales are sky high!  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
high sales are because  Spats30 | 03/06/07
Vista Market Share  Salman Pak | 03/06/07
And that statisitic is based on?  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
The methodology is explained on their website  Salman Pak | 03/06/07
I am not going to wade thru their website  jacarter3 | 03/07/07
seems to me  xuniL_z | 03/08/07
University has recommended against Vista  RexWorld | 03/06/07
Seems like a typical reason...  ken_ballard@... | 03/07/07
Translation  Chad_z | 03/06/07
The REALLY crucial bit of the response....  bportlock | 03/06/07
Too funny!  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
You are in the wrong forum  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
Great!  Ole Man | 03/06/07
The word "banned" is never mentioned!  cnfrisch | 03/06/07
Explanations  bportlock | 03/06/07
The guy you replied to  Linux User 147560 | 03/06/07
The guy he replied to  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
Well... I did not know!  Linux User 147560 | 03/06/07
This isn't about personal computers. It's about business computers.  CobraA1 | 03/06/07
Those folks take it home!  linuxiac | 03/07/07
Well  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
"banned", "Indefintate moratorium", potato potahto  TripleII | 03/06/07
Nope.  CobraA1 | 03/06/07
LOL  TripleII | 03/06/07
Follow Microsoft's suite  Ole Man | 03/06/07
Where's that Ole Man?  xuniL_z | 03/07/07
Although You Don't deserve It  Ole Man | 03/07/07
Classic MS B.S.....  shawkins | 03/06/07
Meanwhile, at the FAA ...  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
Could likely be a ploy  GuidingLight | 03/06/07
I think you tagged it.  John Zern | 03/06/07
"discount that satisfies both parties"  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
"Windows Everywhere!"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/06/07
If the FAA uses windows for  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Maybe two years ago  Chad_z | 03/06/07
Meanwhile at  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
This is not a ban. This is a decision not to buy.  CobraA1 | 03/06/07
It is a ban  TripleII | 03/06/07
Nope.  CobraA1 | 03/06/07
It bans IT from upgrades  TripleII | 03/06/07
You know what....  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
Please enlighten me with links  TripleII | 03/06/07
No recollection of me?  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
Fine, call it a ban if you want  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
No Offense on not Remember  TripleII | 03/07/07
okay  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
Hence, a BAN on Vista and Office 07 from the Business?  nomorems | 03/06/07
It would have helped if  zkiwi | 03/06/07
The DOT isn't upgrading  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
Neither are you  zkiwi | 03/06/07
Well  xuniL_z | 03/07/07
The more likely case  Ole Man | 03/10/07
At Least  Ole Man | 03/06/07
since you reply  xuniL_z | 03/08/07
Go back and count again  Ole Man | 03/10/07
Many thanks!  M.R. Kennedy | 03/06/07
Yes, it's good to see  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Don't hold your breath!  linuxiac | 03/07/07
It's all good  TripleII | 03/06/07
"some of the MOST vitriolic bashers of Vista are XP users"  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Exactly!  shawkins | 03/06/07
I switched to Apple. No DRM stuff going on there?  nomorems | 03/06/07
HAHAHAHA!!!  NonZealot | 03/06/07
Hey, out in MS MS land guy (aka LA LA land)!  nomorems | 03/06/07
Take a pain free, price free spin inside Windows  TripleII | 03/06/07
I did that with a SUSE KDE3.5 VM - that got me started  jacarter3 | 03/06/07
Sadly, this is history repeating itself  Compute_This | 03/06/07
"most computers in the federal government are still running Windows 2000."  nomorems | 03/06/07
I think the reason this is news is...  TripleII | 03/06/07
"That is, if it were a ban, which it isn't ..."  nomorems | 03/06/07
I think you are slipping  xuniL_z | 03/06/07
You think I care about 'cred?  nomorems | 03/06/07
Well, let me help you.  xuniL_z | 03/10/07
MS responds to DOT ban on Vista, Office '07  rondev | 03/06/07
Again No No_Axe, No Loverock, No Mike Cox  itanalyst | 03/06/07
Mine is  kcredden | 03/06/07
No XML! Runs ODF!  linuxiac | 03/07/07
Intel 'bans' Vista!  linuxiac | 03/07/07
Fact: Linux runs the Fortune 500!  linuxiac | 03/07/07
Why did M$ downgrade IE 7?  fordfairlane | 03/07/07
it sucked  aceofspades1217@... | 03/08/07
Another Support Centre and Clients WHO WILL NOT....  carlsf@... | 03/07/07
Most of you haven't even tried it...  steelcuda | 03/07/07
No, People Hate Rattlesnakes  Ole Man | 03/10/07
That is the *official* response, only ...  udippel@... | 03/07/07
What?  NOPerations | 03/08/07
Mediocre story  ImUpAbvIt | 03/08/07
Message has been deleted.  Ole Man | 03/10/07
Thanks for deleting my reply!  Ole Man | 03/17/07
.  aceofspades1217@... | 03/08/07
At least temporaraly  Mycroft_514 | 03/08/07
Here's an example  IT_User | 03/08/07
Have to upgrade?  gdrum0356 | 03/09/07
The word banned is never used...  ITdaized | 03/20/07
Office 2007 X(ML) Documentary  skohler@... | 04/09/07

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