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June 11th, 2009

Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 11:23 am

Categories: Apple, Channel, Corporate strategy, Google, Legal, OEMs, Resellers, System builders, Vista, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Corp., Web Browser, Microsoft Windows, Web Browsers, Operating Systems, Software, Internet, Mary Jo Foley

Anyone who thinks the Evil Empire has lost its dastardly edge should take a hard look at Microsoft’s plans for Windows 7 E.

If Microsoft has its way, the Internet-Explorer-less Windows 7 E version is going to be the one and only version of Windows 7 that will be sold in the European Union. There won’t be a version of Windows 7 with IE 8 included sold in the European Union (unless an OEM decides to add it on its PC).

With Windows 7 E, the way Microsoft is envisioning it, the “guts” of IE 8 will still be in there — things like the rendering engine, the HTTP stack and so on. But there will be no user browser functionality in it at all. No IE 8. No Firefox, no Chrome, no Opera. It will be up to PC makers to preload a browser with Windows 7, if they decide to do so, or up to users to go through some convoluted process to download a browser from a PC with no apparent way to connect to the Web.

Microsoft history buffs may recall that Microsoft built a substantial case (complete with a controversial video) back in the late 1990s around its claim that Internet Explorer was part of Windows. It was so inextricably integrated that to remove it would make the entire operating system inoperable, the Redmondians railed. What a difference a decade makes. In 2009, the idea for Windows 7 E, via which Microsoft magically decouples IE from Windows, is hatched.

Historical inconsistencies aside, Windows 7 E is a total win for Microsoft — and a total loss for customers.

Think about it. Many EU consumers are going to be very unhappy, and probably vocally so, about getting a crippled version of Windows 7. Some will likely complain to their local politicians about the European Commission (EC). Microsoft officials will continue to insist they are simply trying to be EU-law-abiding monopolists, and that their hands are tied. At the same time, Microsoft will likely be able to collect additional dollars by offering IE 8 to PC makers for license. Sure, Microsoft will have to compete with Mozilla, Google, Apple and Opera for browser-preload contracts, but it will undoubtedly win some of them. Ca-ching!

Thinking it through, I’d say Microsoft’s plan for Windows 7 E is a stroke of genius for the company. In one fell swoop, Microsoft creates anti-EC sentiments; makes itself look like the law-abiding underdog; thwarts the “ballot screen” plan the EC seemed to be favoring, which would put IE on a level playing field with its competitors’ browsers; and possibly earns a few extra bucks via OEM browser-licensing deals.

Microsoft's plan for Windows 7 E is:

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Other write-in opinions welcome.

Update: Here is Microsoft’s official statement on its Windows 7 E proposal, courtesy of David Heiner, Vice President and Deputy General Counsel. He attributes Microsoft’s decision to push Windows 7 E as wanting to insure it could launch Windows 7 on time, in all geographies. He also made it plain Microsoft sure doesn’t like the “ballot screen” remedy:

“Our decision to only offer IE separately from Windows 7 in Europe cannot, of course, preclude the possibility of alternative approaches emerging through Commission processes. Other alternatives have been raised in the Commission proceedings, including possible inclusion in Windows 7 of alternative browsers or a ‘ballot screen’ that would prompt users to choose from a specific set of Web browsers. Important details of these approaches would need to be worked out in coordination with the Commission, since they would have a significant impact on computer manufacturers and Web browser vendors, whose interests may differ. Given the complexity and competing interests, we don’t believe it would be best for us to adopt such an approach unilaterally.”

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RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?
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I think you need more options.  ye | 06/11/09
Been done before...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/09
It has. Which is why it was odd they didn't propose it in this case.  ye | 06/11/09
Of course it will be rejected...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/13/09
mONEY  BOSS4908 | 06/12/09
ISPs and OEMs can already distribute IE for free  jlandheer | 06/11/09
Microsoft's proposal for making IE available  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 06/11/09
This is so 1993!  ye | 06/11/09
What's wrong with 1993?  Michael Kelly | 06/11/09
Is that why the industry moved to include browsers in every OS?  ye | 06/11/09
Nope, we have the buggy  Michael Kelly | 06/11/09
I thought Amish people couldn't use electronics.  ye | 06/11/09
Something you may not know about the Amish  Michael Kelly | 06/11/09
Ok, fine...  thx-1138_@... | 06/13/09
THX-1138...  JCitizen | 06/15/09
@JCitizen  thx-1138_@... | 06/16/09
@THX...  JCitizen | 06/16/09
@JCitizen  thx-1138_@... | 06/16/09
Bundle, but not integrate. That's the important distinction. [nt]  olePigeon | 06/12/09
"the industry" = Microsoft ???  EarFix | 06/22/09
as a customer,  rtk | 06/22/09
@EarFix  Chrissd | 07/09/09
Sorry?  SimonUK2 | 06/12/09
you should be. wink  rtk | 06/13/09
Like US they deserve the governmet they have  tech_walker | 06/12/09
Genius? No. Realization of the inevitable? Yes.  no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
Seems the vast majority disagrees with you  GuidingLight | 06/11/09
As most people choose Windows. Yet that hasn't stopped him. (nt)  ye | 06/11/09
They don't choose...It"s forced on them.  linux for me | 06/11/09
One can buy many non-Windows based systems.  ye | 06/11/09
Really?  zkiwi | 06/11/09
Walmart can sell almost anything to their customers ...  de-void | 06/12/09
Other than...  zkiwi | 06/12/09
@ zkiwi  rtk | 06/13/09
Which is in direct contradiction...  zkiwi | 06/13/09
Forced . . . Kind of like the poll . . .  JLHenry | 06/11/09
They do have a choice  sgtm8@... | 06/15/09
"consumer choice"???  EarFix | 06/22/09
The vast majority disagreed with Galileo  InAction Man | 06/11/09
Not so "vast" now  IT_User | 06/11/09
On a MS Centric Site???  Bruizer | 06/14/09
Brilliant? Brilliant like Dr Evil that is....  EarFix | 06/22/09
Why Single out MS? what about Apple or Linux?  mjlaverty@... | 06/11/09
Because MS has deep pockets.  Scubajrr | 06/11/09
Fedora already includes a choice of browsers.  Zogg | 06/11/09
Because Apple...  A Grain of Salt | 06/11/09
It's got nothing...  SimonUK2 | 06/12/09
you said Linux  llemm | 06/15/09
One more step on the road to being free of IE  ChiperSoft | 06/11/09
..and at the same time  djmik | 06/11/09
Opera not to bad  mathcreative | 06/11/09
As long as we are not forced to use the other crap  GuidingLight | 06/11/09
re  BOSS4908 | 06/12/09
As a web developer?  seosamh_z | 06/14/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  GoodThings2Life | 06/11/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  ckeledjian | 06/11/09
Their other browsers are not  GuidingLight | 06/11/09
Version E is not just Win 7 with the "remove IE" box checked  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 06/11/09
What about....  no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
Typical spiteful viciousness on Microsoft's part.  Henry Miller | 06/11/09
Huh? This is EXACTLY what people have been whining for.  ye | 06/11/09
No, they're not doing what was asked of them.  Henry Miller | 06/11/09
Yes, they are.  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/09
You are are being ridiculous and spiteful  Martin_Australia | 06/11/09
That goes without saying.  InAction Man | 06/11/09
spitful viciousness?  desamuelson | 06/11/09
YOU are forgetting something important!!  andrej770 | 06/11/09
@Henry Miller  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/09
It's "Møller," not Moeller  Henry Miller | 06/12/09
This will teach 'em  Alber1690 | 06/11/09
EU has create a problem themselves, and they can't solve it.  jk_10 | 06/11/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  |Phatts| | 06/11/09
Great idea!  EarFix | 06/24/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  tiiman | 06/11/09
They don't even have to do that.  JLHenry | 06/11/09
Vista nor Windows 7 require IE to get updates!!  andrej770 | 06/11/09
No, not a stroke of genius.  kozmcrae | 06/11/09
Firefox has much higher market share in Europe  jorjitop | 06/11/09
Then how can FF be "over 50%"?  ye | 06/11/09
If FF is over 50% in some countries  LiquidLearner | 06/14/09
No one said they had...  EarFix | 06/24/09
This is poetic justice  wolf_z | 06/11/09
There is a serious downside to MS.  Bruizer | 06/15/09
MJ: A decade didn't make much difference, the "guts" are still required  PB_z | 06/11/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  thaeadran@... | 06/11/09
It makes me hate Opera and the EU, not Microsoft. n/t  LeoD | 06/11/09
Typical Microshaft  David Blomstrom | 06/11/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  joer4x4 | 06/11/09
Stupid EU  RyGuy12 | 06/11/09
I was glad about the EC fining Intel in the processor case  nessrapp | 06/12/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  tecksheng | 06/12/09
Obviously...  SimonUK2 | 06/12/09
J'Accuse  johnfenjackson@... | 06/12/09
Re -EU MONEY GRAB  BOSS4908 | 06/12/09
You honestly believe that this will  jacarter3 | 06/12/09
I totally agree!  JCitizen | 06/15/09
So...  zkiwi | 06/13/09
zkiwi - in search of a clue  Taco12345 | 06/13/09
Are you serious?  zkiwi | 06/13/09
I do think Microsoft is getting too big...  JCitizen | 06/15/09
weak arguments  EarFix | 06/24/09
Uh ...Microsoft is WAY older than the EU..  JCitizen | 06/15/09
re: J'Accuse  M.R. Kennedy | 06/12/09
It might be the worst article YOU'VE ever read...  LeeC | 06/12/09
I second all that!  EarFix | 06/24/09
How many people  jacarter3 | 06/12/09
re: How many people  M.R. Kennedy | 06/12/09
Obviously you didn't read my opther post [nt]  jacarter3 | 06/12/09
After that XP SP3 browser pasting fiasco...  JCitizen | 06/12/09
AOL CD's... get ready for the flood EU!  faxmonkey | 06/12/09
You have heard of "analogy" yes?  wolf_z | 06/13/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  Gis Bun | 06/12/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  WhistleHeat | 06/12/09
The Euro's asked for it!  tech_walker | 06/12/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  anilmani | 06/12/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  bodomkiller85 | 06/13/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  jeremymaynard@... | 06/13/09
Well Said  Taco12345 | 06/13/09
Mozilla should flood EU with free cds  systemx | 06/13/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  dwd1949 | 06/14/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  Chrissd | 07/09/09
But Microsoft COULD put shortcut to download IE via FTP on the desktop  dzspam@... | 07/09/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  Jackie150 | 10/11/09
RE: Poll: Is Microsoft's Windows 7 E a stroke of genius?  sexy costumes | 11/11/09

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