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June 15th, 2009

Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:20 am

Categories: Channel, Corporate strategy, Internet Explorer, Legal, OEMs, Resellers, System builders, Windows 7, Windows client

Tags: Opera Software, Antitrust, Boycott, Microsoft Corp., Web Browser, JCXP.Net Windows Enthusiast Site, Web Browsers, Microsoft Windows, Corporate Law, Internet

The JCXP.Net Windows enthusiast site has launched a “Boycott Opera” campaign aimed at users who are unhappy over Opera’s antitrust suit against Microsoft.

It was Opera’s 2007 antitrust complaint that mushroomed into the current antitrust case in the European Union over Microsoft’s browser-bundling policies.

JCXP announced its boycott campaign on June 12. In a blog post, JCXP Managing Editor David Taraso announced the proposed boycott, attributing it to Opera’s decision to sue Microsoft for antitrust. He said:

Today, we are proposing a complete boycott of all Opera software.

“This is absolutely nothing more than a company, who can’t legitimately gain market share, trying to squeeze their unpopular browser onto Windows systems.Opera is simply upset because their browser is dead last in market share, and has already been surpassed by the recently released Google Chrome browser and Apple’s Safari browser for Windows.”

In a second post, on June 14, Taraso spelled out more directly the reasons he is pushing the boycott:

“I would like to make one thing clear though. I don’t hate Opera and I don’t hate their browser (Opera 9 was my main browser for most of 2008). Opera has introduced many fantastic innovations to the browser market over the years, and I applaud them for that. But I don’t agree with what they are trying to do here. I definitely agree that Opera should have a larger market share, but not by forcing Microsoft to advertise their product in Windows.”

Last week, word was circulating that the European Commission was considering as one remedy in the case the inclusion by PC makers of a “ballot screen” that would require users to choose a browser for their Windows PCs at startup. Microsoft, trying to head off the ballot-screen remedy, announced last week plans to ship Windows 7 in European without Internet Explorer 8 bundled into it. Opera officials said they considered Microsoft’s Windows 7 E plan to be an inadequate response to their concerns.

What’s your take? Is an Opera boycott the best way for those who believe Microsoft should be allowed to integrate IE into Windows to make their views known?

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What is a "Windows Enthusiast"?  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
I noticed something....  James T. Kirk | 06/15/09
Yeah, ok, Apple too, along with Microsoft.  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Follow the money trail  Ole Man | 06/15/09
Want to back up....  Erroneous | 06/15/09
Microsoft routinely pays for PR  comp_indiana | 06/16/09
Same here  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
Whatever  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
Same song, different singer.  congospruce | 06/16/09
When people are conditioned in a comfort zone...  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
Too many assumtions...  shadfurman | 06/16/09
Leave Apple Out Of This  robertmro | 06/16/09
I think it does.  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Give us an example of Apple paying for PR  comp_indiana | 06/16/09
Apple's marketing budget in 2008 was $486M  de-void | 06/16/09
I'm not sure why you want me to do that.  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Uh... Turn on your TV...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/16/09
Eum... Product placement anyone?  thedudez | 06/17/09
Seen an Apple logo lately?  Dr. John | 06/17/09
examples  kRanki1 | 06/20/09
Read the comment he was replying to duf!  shadfurman | 06/16/09
in a way it does  kaninelupus | 06/17/09
I think that the reason that they don't...  goff256 | 06/20/09
Another clueless open source groupie...  croberts | 06/15/09
Clueless (maybe) Hippie (doubt it)  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
An anology you can understand  gnesterenko | 06/15/09
Maybe  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Don't waste your time...  storm14k | 06/15/09
I'm no MS enthusiast, but...  online@... | 06/16/09
Group think..?  Wolfie2K3 | 06/16/09
poor example  DaemonSlayer | 06/16/09
I get a lot of flak for asking noob questions from linux users...  shadfurman | 06/16/09
Enthusiasts of Commercial Endeavors  MemeMeme | 06/16/09
Certainly true, but...  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  interested_amateur@... | 06/18/09
Understand completely  online@... | 06/16/09
Human condition  PeterVS | 06/16/09
I'm sorry, I didn't answer your question as well as I had thought.  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Opera, betas and profits.  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
Not mistaken at all  croberts | 06/15/09
Finished Opera Mobile  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
re:Opera, betas and profits.  byter_z | 06/17/09
re  BOSS4908 | 06/15/09
The EU president...  Erroneous | 06/15/09
EU President?  Chalfont | 06/17/09
Evil empire?  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
Call me crazy....  vbp1 | 06/16/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
You have it backwards  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
But people couldn't pick...OEMs and VARs would...  y91fit02@... | 06/16/09
yeah, but still...  Mitch 74 | 06/17/09
Enthusiast  bobiroc | 06/15/09
"free" Microsoft software? Hahahaha!  EarFix | 06/16/09
enthusiasts  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 06/15/09
Not about Microsoft, more about the EC.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
Right On Steve Dave!!!  nucrash | 06/15/09
Then why doesn't Microsoft compete instead of bundle their warez in the OS?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/15/09
It is Microsoft's OFFERED OS, choose another if you don't like it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
Haha  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
Thier reasons are thier reasons, thats called CHOICE  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
Haha is right  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
Microsoft broke the law  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
No, if the EC has thier way  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
"Anti-competitive" is an anti-concept  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Microsoft did NOT break the law  et3 | 06/16/09
OFFERED?  skinsman61@... | 06/17/09
In case anyone has forgotten:  User07734 | 06/15/09
Microsoft has earned the right  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
To be sued/ruled against again and again...  zkiwi | 06/15/09
more braindead "logic" from MS astroturfers...  EarFix | 06/16/09
No they haven't  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
It's the anti-competitive strong-arm tactics, not their "right" to bundle..  y91fit02@... | 06/16/09
like the constant whining of microsoft supporters  stevey_d | 06/15/09
Exactly what law...  Erroneous | 06/15/09
"wasn't this case based on IE not following web standards to begin with?"  Dave32265 | 06/16/09
The EU has laws on commercial behavior.  sporkfighter | 06/16/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
What is so incomprehensible?  codemonkey101 | 06/15/09
A Different Perspective  Economister | 06/15/09
Damn! Agree again!  nizuse | 06/16/09
Enthusiast  DaveN_MVP | 06/15/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
No "favorites" whatsoever?  RDrr | 06/17/09
Of course I have favorites.  Looks Confused | 06/17/09
Enthusiast  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
What about other enthusiasts?  Kaiwai | 06/15/09
Good Question  bobdavis321 | 06/16/09
What about Apple?  kgunnIT | 06/16/09
RTFM  EarFix | 06/16/09
What about Apple  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
It's their (criminal) record...  dpaus | 06/16/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Let me try to explain  bmonsterman | 06/16/09
Windows Enthusiast?  bigpicture | 06/16/09
Why is there a Windows Enthusiast  myscarab@... | 06/16/09
I am  shadfurman | 06/16/09
The "Windows Enthusiast".  PinkFloydYoshi | 06/17/09
Dude...  readwryt@... | 06/17/09
Already did that  bobiroc | 06/15/09
Whats the point?  themp | 06/15/09
Ignorance is bliss.  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
If true then why the lawsuit?  ye | 06/15/09
Learn the differences between a lawsuit and a complaint  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
Clue: THERE IS NO LAWSUIT  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
Lawsuit / Complaint... Whatever  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
My apologies. Substitute "complaint" for "lawsuit"  ye | 06/15/09
Now  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
Can you prove this assertion?  ye | 06/15/09
Who am I to prove it?  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
@nilotpal_c: I'm interested in the argument you made wrt the...  ye | 06/15/09
What statements regarding that did I make?  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
@nilotpal_c: Exactly.  ye | 06/16/09
@ye:  nilotpal_c | 06/16/09
Hmm  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
Actually  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
Nice trolling  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
@ Mipe Relons  PlayFair | 06/15/09
Actually I would say,  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
Agreed  PlayFair | 06/15/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  koenigsr | 06/15/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Loverock Davidson | 06/15/09
Oh you look so lonely now, loverock!  nizuse | 06/16/09
Fantastic!  EarFix | 06/16/09
Did you actually use Opera?  Viva la crank dodo | 06/16/09
That's probably the case  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
Microsoft should have been made to  chrome_slinky@... | 06/15/09
Ridiculous  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
BTW IE was NOT always present, that started  Deadly Ernest | 06/16/09
hey, I got an idea for you  Deadly Ernest | 06/16/09
IE is not always present.  sporkfighter | 06/16/09
Any brainless turkey that codes a site to be  Deadly Ernest | 06/16/09
Tell it to Microsoft  Wintel BSOD | 06/16/09
Hell, they've been ignoring all standards since  Deadly Ernest | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  cowatson | 06/15/09
Dirty money  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
Not Opera...  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Enthusiast  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Hmm.... http://www.jcxp.net doesn't seem to be up...  James T. Kirk | 06/15/09
It's probably a small web site  Michael Kelly | 06/15/09
What a pathetic attempt to claim glory.  nucrash | 06/15/09
I don't use Opera hate widgets but good browser  Randalllind | 06/15/09
Don't have to boycott  Boot_Agnostic | 06/15/09
No monopoly there  Mipe Relons | 06/15/09
Boycott something no-one's buying anyway?  JonathonDoe | 06/15/09
If it had a large market share.....  storm14k | 06/15/09
Boycott something that you declare "dead" in the same breath?  Ole Man | 06/15/09
I will continue to not use Opera. *nt*  mikefarinha | 06/15/09
Microsoft is not above the Law  Zogg | 06/15/09
The laws are the problem  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Even the US found that MS had broken anti-trust law.  Zogg | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  GoodThings2Life | 06/15/09
I agree with the boycott  STBA2009 | 06/15/09
They should be mad at the idiots of the EC  markbn | 06/15/09
I AGREE!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
heres my question...  gnesterenko | 06/15/09
It is called FTP...  Erroneous | 06/15/09
No, wget is better - FTP is just a straw man  Zogg | 06/15/09
But  jdbukis@... | 06/15/09
wget is GPL software, silly wink  Zogg | 06/15/09
Because it is....  Erroneous | 06/15/09
The OEMs or MS itself could install wget for you...  Zogg | 06/16/09
Who uses wget  Kaiwai | 06/16/09
Well...  zkiwi | 06/15/09
Misdirection  johnfenjackson@... | 06/15/09
Counterargument  gnesterenko | 06/15/09
Ultimate indeed  johnfenjackson@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  BOSS4908 | 06/15/09
It isn't as if they were going to use it anyway  nilotpal_c | 06/15/09
I think I'll go and download Opera a few times now...  storm14k | 06/15/09
Opera needs to stop complaining!!  Djblois | 06/15/09
Finally  gnesterenko | 06/15/09
Agreed  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
A few corrections  Looks Confused | 06/15/09
Hans you need to take some law courses  Djblois | 06/15/09
I didn't mean to refute your main point.  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Monopolistic Practice  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
Hans Sorry didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you  Djblois | 06/16/09
No Problem  Looks Confused | 06/16/09
I.E. 8 is Crappy  skinsman61@... | 06/17/09
You are not forced to do anything  Kikarok | 06/18/09
The very definition of a MS shill.  enduser_z | 06/15/09
"Most people couldnt care any less"  jdbukis@... | 06/15/09
Antitrust laws are illegitimate  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Free will?  online@... | 06/16/09
Actually....  Kikarok | 06/18/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  PlayFair | 06/15/09
One more thing  PlayFair | 06/15/09
I Only Use IE Once Every Time I Build A Windows System  itanalyst2@... | 06/15/09
Actualy It does  jdbukis@... | 06/15/09
Exactly  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Name one thing they've done for browsers  threedaysdwn | 06/15/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Djblois | 06/15/09
Uninstalled/feedback left  ipjunkie | 06/15/09
Boycott Opera - Is that a Joke?  jpr75_z | 06/15/09
Lets boycott Google too!  jk_10 | 06/15/09
Google should be boycotted just for building another incompetent browser..  transposeIT | 06/15/09
What parallel universe is this?  kraterz | 06/15/09
It must be a tenet of their religion...  Zogg | 06/16/09
Opera are EC Losers  Aussie_Troll | 06/15/09
Opensource it (Opera)  Kaiwai | 06/15/09
The laws are the problem  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Give it up...  zkiwi | 06/15/09
They want the right to sell a complete product  johngalt_0705 | 06/15/09
Windows + Opera = Bliss  Cosmo54 | 06/15/09
Got that right  Kaiwai | 06/16/09
Linux Opera or Firefox = Bliss  xunil skcor | 06/16/09
Misinformation  Ted007Johnson | 06/15/09
@Ted007Johnson  Chrissd | 06/15/09
I Agree...!!!  abhilashca | 06/15/09
I already boycott...  neverhome | 06/16/09
Windows without IE  Watumba | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  fluffynuts | 06/16/09
@fluffynuts  PlayFair | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  adyfischer | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  bfehn@... | 06/16/09
Some idiots claiming MS is hard done by for bloating  Deadly Ernest | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  hard knocks | 06/16/09
Microsoft has a bad history.  F4A6Pilot@... | 06/16/09
They do it constantly...  chemwiz | 06/16/09
Fighting for the "dumb as a rock market"?  zefficace | 06/16/09
A view from someone who lives in Europe  ncudmore@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  ulfahl69@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  1djk1 | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  jirving@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Animus | 06/16/09
WHAT?????  DaemonSlayer | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  rmaro@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Djblois | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Litehouse | 06/16/09
Sorry Mipe Relons but you don't know what you are talking about  Djblois | 06/16/09
Anyone who thinks that Microsoft broke the law needs to read this  Djblois | 06/16/09
Brilliant. Nice response DJ. (NT)  de-void | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Neal Anderthal | 06/16/09
Maybe you should try...  Marty R. Milette | 06/16/09
Well this maybe correct BUT  vbp1 | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  ncberns@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  online@... | 06/16/09
Can't forget...  DaemonSlayer | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  fejlinton | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  FiOS-Dave | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Gis Bun | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Watumba | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  victorsebastian | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  DaemonSlayer | 06/16/09
Who would boycott Opera?  nstuff | 06/16/09
Who cares!  The 'G-Man.' | 06/16/09
In this case....  El Condor | 06/16/09
Opera too slow ??  Watumba | 06/17/09
Been Boycott for Years.  Richard B | 06/16/09
Typing this on a PowerMac running OS X Tiger  unclefixer@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  kingkookie | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  myscarab@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  harrynoor@... | 06/16/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  RightPaddock | 06/16/09
Boycott Windows, not the other way around!  as901 | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  ericdry | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  jlhuge | 06/17/09
And this boycott will have an effect ???  sgmunson | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  voodoochicken | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  jsnapp556 | 06/17/09
Microsoft boycotting Opera users.  thomasnruth@... | 06/17/09
Look, lets face the fact...  readwryt@... | 06/17/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  Looks Confused | 06/18/09
Opera should launch their own OS  WriterOfCode | 06/19/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  madubyak@... | 06/21/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  jfreedle2@... | 06/21/09
Calling for a boycott is good advertising for Opera.  softwareFlunky | 06/22/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  kronass | 06/24/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  SFLeBrun | 07/08/09
More sense to 'Boycott the EU' and the legal system!  baljeetd | 07/10/09
RE: Windows enthusiasts launch 'Boycott Opera' campaign  MrRich | 07/14/09
Except, they didn't  rtk | 07/14/09

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