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May 14th, 2007

GPLv3 the impetus for Microsoft's latest Linux attack campaign

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 4:35 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Legal, Linux, Novell

Tags: Novell Inc., Linux, Patent, Open Source, Customer, Microsoft Corp., GPLv3, Attack, Mary Jo Foley

In Focus » See more posts on: Software Patents, GPL

With one stroke, Microsoft has ended any illusion that it planned to try to build bridges with the open-source community. And it appears the primary reason for Microsoft's decision to go back on the public attack against Linux and other open-source software is the looming Version 3 of the Free Software Foundation's General Public License (GPL).

In a newly published interview with Fortune magazine, Microsoft licensing officials go on the record claiming that the company believes free and open-source software infringes on 235 of Microsoft's patents. At the same time, Bill Hilf, Microsoft director of platform strategy — and the company's main liaision to the open-source community — was quoted on a tour in Southeast Asia as saying that "the Free Software movement is dead," and "Linux doesn't exist in 2007."

What's changed Microsoft's tune? Here is the explanation for Microsoft's actions that the company's public relations agency began circulating among the press on May 14:

"In a just-published article, Microsoft has publicly acknowledged that is has 235 patents that read on open source technology. As you know, Microsoft has had a long, public discussion about intellectual property issues. The company’s longstanding preference is to license rather than litigate and Microsoft’s work over the past three years to build a bridge with open source is a result of that commitment. The November agreement with Novell addresses the IP issues in open source while meeting both the distributor’s needs and, more importantly, the needs of the customer.

"Customers have asked industry leaders in both proprietary and open source to address these issues and over 90% of customers support the Novell agreement as addressing this need for vendor interoperability and cooperation ( http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/dec06/12-11SurveyResultsPR.mspx ).

"Microsoft has made other efforts, as well, to advance open source interoperability and encourage pragmatic open source development with our intellectual property . These include the Covenant not to Sue open source hobbyist developers as part of the Novell agreement ( http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/nov06/11-02MSNovellPR.mspx ) and the Open Specification Promise ( http://www.microsoft.com/interop/osp/default.mspx ).

"The patent issue with open source has been in discussion for some time, first raised by various leaders in the free and open source community. According to its August 2004 announcement, the Open Source Risk Management group stated that Linux could be in violation of 283 patents and, as such, could expose customers to undetermined licensing costs ( http://www.osriskmanagement.com/press_releases/press_release_080204.pdf ). Richard Stallman further validated this in late November where he noted that “a thorough study found that the kernel Linux infringed 283 different software patents, and that's just in the US. Of course, by now the number is probably different and might be higher.” ( http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3/tokyo-rms-transcript.en.html#patents )

"The latest draft of the GPLv3 attempts to tear down the bridge between proprietary and open source technology that Microsoft has worked to build with the industry and customers. Customers in multiple industries have already called for and endorsed the bridge as a positive move in their favor. AIG, Credit Suisse, Dell, HSBC, Nationwide, and Wal-Mart are just a few of the customers who have already signed on and Microsoft has announced Samsung and Fuji-Xerox as the second and third distributors of Linux who are providing their customers with IP rights.

"Microsoft is discussing the patent issue even more directly now, with specifics about patent numbers and areas of infringement, in response to continued industry question and concern over the GPLv3’s adoption. Unfortunately, for customers, the Free Software Foundation’s efforts with GPLv3 while not harming existing contracts can harm the desired interoperability and open exchange that we have increasingly seen between proprietary and open source over the past several years."

For those who prefer the short version of the statement, Microsoft suggests the press use this quote, attributable to Horacio Gutierrez, Microsoft Vice President of Intellectual Property and Licensing:

“Even the founder of the Free Software Foundation, Richard Stallman, noted last year that Linux infringes well over 200 patents from multiple companies. The real question is not whether there exist substantial patent infringement issues, but what to do about them. Microsoft and Novell already developed a solution that meets the needs of customers, furthers interoperability, and advances the interests of the industry as a whole. Any customer that is concerned about Linux IP issues needs only to obtain their open source subscriptions from Novell.”

What's got Microsoft so spoooked? As the Fortune article noted, the GPL v3's provisions regarding the Microsoft-Novell deal suggest that Microsoft itself could be considered a "Linux distributor," and thus beholden to the GPL v3 terms. And even if that doesn't happen, under the GPL v3, other Linux distributors would be barred from doing deals like the one struck by Novell and Microsoft.

For the past few months, Microsoft publicly has pooh-poohed these arguments. But the company's latest decision to go public with claimed patent infringement numbers and other inflammatory statements, to me, shows Microsoft must think the GPL v3 has teeth.

What's your read on Microsoft's public statements in this matter?

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who said "lost EVERY patent case"  mdsmedia | 05/15/07
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Villans and Interoperability  code_Warrior | 05/14/07
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It's bull  xuniL_z | 05/14/07
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The Microsoft Document Specs  The-Bytemaster | 05/14/07
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OpenXML is a specification  The-Bytemaster | 05/14/07
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re:After the fact  TripleII | 05/14/07
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Code has nothing to do with patents ?!?!?!?!?  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
No, it does NOT. Your ignorance is astonding.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
MS's lawsuit will not stand ground . MARK MY WORDS !!  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
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The patents must be violated by the source code, since that is all Linux /  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
Donnie Boy  xuniL_z | 05/14/07
I am not the one making bogus patent claims. That would be  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
Donnie, take ONE stance and try to stay with it  xuniL_z | 05/14/07
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wtf no axe clueless as ever  Quebec-french | 05/14/07
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Again, file the lawsuits if this has merit. The time to act is now!  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
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Right, Microsoft suing the FSF, now THAT would really be funny.  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
Yeah, that would be so funny.  xuniL_z | 05/14/07
Man, Billy and Stevie going up against Richard Stallman in court would be  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
well DBoy have a great point here  Quebec-french | 05/14/07
Why would they?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Showing your ignorance again  JJQ1000 | 05/16/07
Mary Jo and twisted headlines.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
You truly are ignorant , aren't you ?!?!?!?!  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
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We all knew that the MS/Novell deal would bring problems .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
Are you that stupid?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
and I guess you work for free  zzz1234567890 | 05/14/07
Re: We all knew  yyuko@... | 05/14/07
The problems were not for Novell...  Logics | 05/14/07
I disagree  yyuko@... | 05/14/07
that is just dumb, really.  xuniL_z | 05/16/07
Problems?  rapson | 05/14/07
Put the mirror down, escape your ignorance.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Depends what you mean  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Well of course...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
I don't expect anything else  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Oh I fully agree about FSF  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Re: Oh I fully agree about FSF  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Not if Stallman has his way...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
The right to choose  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
but the FSF has no right to force others to follow their rules  zzz1234567890 | 05/14/07
Re: but the FSF has no right to force others to follow their rules  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
MS is playing the same game  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Dumb question to anyone who can answer it, INTELLIGENTLY!!  JLHenry | 05/14/07
As long as they pay MS  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Uhh . . .  JLHenry | 05/14/07
I think you are reaching  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Dell sells hardware with several distributions.  B.O.F.H. | 05/14/07
Who can be sued.  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
Then why the Sabre-rattling?  JLHenry | 05/14/07
Issue identification.  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
"Question is, will the collision be a train wreck?"  JLHenry | 05/14/07
Mr jhenry (train wreck)  Quebec-french | 05/14/07
Losing ground?  justanitguy | 05/14/07
Can't compete, won't compete  whisperycat | 05/14/07
Blah, blah, blah, Same old losers  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Not popular in Japan though is it No_axe?  whisperycat | 05/14/07
Yes it is as a matter of FACT.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
"MS is THE MOST POPULAR software"  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
Pfffttt....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
IBM didn't tremble in 1982 either... [NT]  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
Excellent point!! [nt]  JLHenry | 05/14/07
It's not their desktop marketshare  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
They aren't worried.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Ok... not "worried"  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
And YOU have the nerve to tell John he is  xuniL_z | 05/16/07
MS is starting to realize that their  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
More blah, blah, blah  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Hi Bitty  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
PROVE IT NO_AX , WE NEED MORE SUBSTANCE !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
Go ask Stallman, he has the list.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
More like I would like to see Microsofts list .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
WHat you want doesn't matter to anyone.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Your immaturity is beginning to show No-Ax.  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
Re-read the article...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Stallman is an idiot.  odubtaig | 05/14/07
The important thing is not weather or not Linux infringes on MS patents.  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
Where you are wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Where you are wrong  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
I haver searched for where Stallman provides a list I havent found it ???  mrlinux | 05/14/07
Heresay is inadmissible  JJQ1000 | 05/16/07
Just what patented tech exactly????  TtfnJohn | 05/14/07
You want to blow me? No way...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
He said the list, not vague references to studies of questionable origin.  odubtaig | 05/14/07
Old news Axey  TtfnJohn | 05/14/07
and which patented tech is that?  mdsmedia | 05/15/07
But what of those who wish to use both  GuidingLight | 05/14/07
Then by all means, please do!  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
I guess my posts where lost on you  John Zern | 05/14/07
Sorry, but I didn't get that  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
I do agree  John Zern | 05/15/07
I don't exactly see you painting  xuniL_z | 05/15/07
Listen, you're the one with fantasies  jacarter3 | 05/15/07
Calm down.  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
you're one to talk!!  mdsmedia | 05/18/07
You haven't a clue  Ole Man | 05/15/07
Show us the money  sinleeh@... | 05/14/07
WHy do you keep saying it?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
It's not Stallman's word - it's Microsoft  NetArch. | 05/14/07
it's Open Source Risk Management group saying it to so I'm sure it's true  SO.CAL Guy | 05/14/07
We know all about that..  NetArch. | 05/14/07
Man, look at the linux zealots scaramble  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
They want a Court case...  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
Clear analysis is taking place...  NetArch. | 05/14/07
Re: They want a Court case...  none none | 05/14/07
The patent system is broken  CobraA1 | 05/14/07
There you go again  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/07
It's kinda like eating Potato Chips . . .  JLHenry | 05/15/07
I've never seen that court case, much less quoted from it.  CobraA1 | 05/15/07
I'm pretty sure his tongue was firmly..  mdsmedia | 05/15/07
Nope  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
I stand corrected  mdsmedia | 05/19/07
Nobody's ignoring anything  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
But the GPL will NOT allow you to license  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
That wasn't the only option I listed  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Instead of idle comments and veiled threats...  jasonp@... | 05/14/07
I've tried to find a therapist who would take the job on  mdsmedia | 05/15/07
Well... I can see this.  jskline0@... | 05/16/07
MS is scared to death of competing on the merits. But, they are frustrated  DonnieBoy | 05/14/07
180 degrees BACKWARDS, FSF is scared...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Based upon the quantity of posts here, it would appear that...  B.O.F.H. | 05/14/07
Good one!  Reverend MacFellow | 05/14/07
There is a theory  TripleII | 05/14/07
You hang way too much of your life  xuniL_z | 05/16/07
Another useless "coat tail" post from a loser  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
To many ways to read that...  B.O.F.H. | 05/14/07
In-depth research  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/07
In-depth research  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/07
Linux does not want to be OWNED by Microshaft !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
Let's say Microsoft does want to work with open source.  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
A well thought out post  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Reading your posts...  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
a litlle more informed post plz...  wmoors@... | 05/14/07
Sorry, did I fall asleep or something?  odubtaig | 05/14/07
Ooops, you are correct.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Hahahaha!  odubtaig | 05/14/07
"The fact that Microsoft is willing to offer IP protection..."  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
In Microsoft's context...  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
The "Microsoft context"  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
Noble intentions  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
"And I appreciate that you've made the rejection of Mr. Stallman's views"  jacarter3 | 05/14/07
A joke perhaps??  xuniL_z | 05/16/07
Can you even read?  jacarter3 | 05/17/07
I agree with you about GPLv3 . . .  JLHenry | 05/14/07
If you can find a "middle ground"...  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
Middle Ground is often hard to find . . .  JLHenry | 05/15/07
Dark, narrow, and twisted alleys  Ole Man | 05/15/07
MS needs to be sued for libel.  Letophoro | 05/14/07
The M$ clowns are the new Bagdad Bob  Linux Geek | 05/14/07
And now...  justanitguy | 05/14/07
I picture Linux Geek as...  net-com | 05/14/07
I knew  Badgered | 05/14/07
Wild Claims and Foolish Moves....  linux for me | 05/14/07
Microsoft can take firm hold of its lower lip...  BanjoPaterson | 05/14/07
Tux500  digger97 | 05/14/07
Wall St. thinks it just bluster  WiredGuy | 05/14/07
Good point!  Reverend MacFellow | 05/14/07
I laughed so much  martin23 | 05/14/07
Patents in Question  ohiomike | 05/14/07
Ask Mr. Stallman who agrees...  Confused by religion | 05/14/07
Patents that Mr. STallman says that . . .  JLHenry | 05/14/07
The zealots can't stand it, please stop...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Can you provide a link, a reference?  NetArch. | 05/14/07
Maybe Milly can  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/07
Re: Ask Mr. Stallman who agrees...  none none | 05/14/07
Step-One - Litigate untill MS/Novel is the only Linux left standing - THEN  raycote | 05/14/07
I am the Linux/Colonel !  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
Yes, you have been WRONG for years.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Good for you!  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
Microsoft planted the code  Unc Al | 05/15/07
You seem to be working up a sweat ,,,  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
ObeyMeIAmRoot a lawsuit would be bad for both  SO.CAL Guy | 05/14/07
Almost nailed it  TripleII | 05/14/07
You seem to forget one thing ,,,  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/14/07
"court would tell them sorry but get the code out of your apps"  jacarter3 | 05/15/07
Don't worry! Be Happy!  George Mitchell | 05/14/07
A more reasoned analysis than some can manage.  odubtaig | 05/14/07
More like braggadocio...  Anton Philidor | 05/14/07
Nice slight of hand ...  MisterMiester | 05/14/07
A typical leap for Anton..  mdsmedia | 05/16/07
Re: More like braggadocio...  none none | 05/14/07
a lunatic post  zzz1234567890 | 05/14/07
Saying something doesn't make it true.  odubtaig | 05/16/07
What if?  Troll Hunter | 05/14/07
It's academic  TripleII | 05/14/07
You're absolutely correct  Michael Kelly | 05/14/07
What if?  dragosani | 05/14/07
Re: What if?  none none | 05/14/07
It's amazing...  hairyR | 05/14/07
All hat, no cattle  Chad_z | 05/14/07
Well if (BIG IF) Linux does infringe on Microsoft...  mrlinux | 05/14/07
Fun watching No_Ax twist in the wind  dnirgotxaon | 05/14/07
More fun watching zealots scramble  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/14/07
Yeah, it's fun  CobraA1 | 05/14/07
Put the mirror down, slowly  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/14/07
You did scramble and made up wild assertions.  B.O.F.H. | 05/14/07
Microsoft would be suing  bjbrock | 05/14/07
The beginning of the end of Microsoft.....  linux for me | 05/14/07
Make that 1985...  NetArch. | 05/14/07
Vista UI = Innovation?!?  dayjm | 05/14/07
Uhhh . . .Dude?  JLHenry | 05/15/07
Microsoft can see the ax falling  Ole Man | 05/14/07
Those Bastards!  netzd | 05/14/07
FUD vs FUD  dragosani | 05/14/07
I have a simple and revolutionary suggestion  cymru999 | 05/14/07
What?  gunnerjoe | 05/14/07
Seems to me Hilf just guaranteed that linux will massacre windows  stevey_d | 05/14/07
Hey No_Axe, READ THIS  itanalyst | 05/14/07
EVERYONE BOOKMARK THIS ARTICLE  itanalyst | 05/14/07
MY PREDICTION  itanalyst | 05/14/07
Author of Linux Patent Study Says Ballmer Got It Wrong  johnf76@... | 05/14/07
Many obvious patents ...  MisterMiester | 05/14/07
I think it more likely that VISTA is  A.Lizard | 05/15/07
obviously you are just poking around in the dark  zzz1234567890 | 05/15/07
What do you consider "a lot"?  rock06r | 05/15/07
Microsoft Desperate To Get Its Fingers In The Pie  chessmen | 05/15/07
get your basis right first  zzz1234567890 | 05/15/07
90% of the server market in Europe?  gotitright | 05/15/07
Revenue, not number of servers  TripleII | 05/15/07
"It is no wonder why so many people hate this company."  mrlinux | 05/15/07
you dont have a clue  Aussie_Troll | 05/18/07
Regarding folks like No_Ax and Anton ...  George Mitchell | 05/15/07
Jerk  TripleII | 05/15/07
"No_Ax" and "Anton" are completely different.  thelemite | 05/15/07
My point regarding No_Ax is that we shouldn't encourage it ...  George Mitchell | 05/15/07
My point is that No_Ax brings it on himself  thelemite | 05/15/07
Unless you have read his posts for years ....  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
You can't make those claims without intimate knowledge  thelemite | 05/16/07
Don?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/17/07
What disturbs me is the . . .  JLHenry | 05/16/07
I agree ... in many ways he is his own worst enemy ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
they resort to personal attacks because they have nothing else  Aussie_Troll | 05/18/07
Good Read  TripleII | 05/15/07
The patent issue...  mrlinux | 05/15/07
Good Read: Fixed Bolds (I hope)  TripleII | 05/15/07
Can You Say, "Moratorium"  author20@... | 05/15/07
its about time  Aussie_Troll | 05/15/07
EOLAS anyone? Let's get the popcorn ...  MisterMiester | 05/15/07
He's not serious ...  George Mitchell | 05/15/07
Pure Genius  olivier@... | 05/16/07
But, the threat has to be credible. In this case, nobody is buying it.  DonnieBoy | 05/16/07
colala  colala519@... | 05/17/07
are you that brain dead ??  Aussie_Troll | 05/18/07
are YOU braindead??  mdsmedia | 05/19/07
Oh dear.  odubtaig | 05/19/07
NTFS read/write is not "using NTFS"  mdsmedia | 05/19/07
*sigh*  odubtaig | 05/19/07
I stand corrected  mdsmedia | 05/19/07
tell me a disto that does NOT have NTFS  Aussie_Troll | 05/22/07
I believe that's called competition:  odubtaig | 05/19/07
thats what patents are for !!  Aussie_Troll | 05/22/07
MS Would Be Crazy  cocheese | 05/19/07
Nothing is revealed  tony@... | 05/20/07
all MS patents are public domain  Aussie_Troll | 05/22/07
All A New Marketing Campaign  kameran@... | 05/21/07
More Companies Violate the GNU/GPL  bcroner | 05/21/07
especially FOSS, who cant write SW  Aussie_Troll | 05/22/07
this is not about license breach  Aussie_Troll | 05/22/07
snarl  bcroner | 05/29/07

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