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May 17th, 2007

Vista Service Pack 1: It lives

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:55 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Vista, WinHEC, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows, Service Pack, Microsoft Corp., WinHEC, Mary Jo Foley

With all the Microsoft-created confusion out there around when — and even whether — the company plans to deliver the first service pack (SP) for Windows Vista, it’s nice to see some concrete proof that Vista SP1 does exist.

The WinFuture.de folks managed to grab a quick snapshot of a machine running a build of Vista SP1 during one of the Rally talks at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) in Los Angeles this week. Plain as day, it says: “Windows Build 6001 Service Pack 1, v113.”)

I also saw a PowerPoint slide mentioning the existence of Vista SP1 during a WinHEC chalk talk on “The Future of Input” at this week’s show. (The context: A shim for the kernel-mode driver foundation version of the digitizer driver will ship as a Windows Driver Kit sample in Vista SP1. That was it.)

Given all the mumbo-jumbo coming from the Windows brass lately about SP1, I actually was starting to wonder whether Microsoft might try to go without one and just use Automatic Update and Windows Update Services to roll out all of the Vista fixes and updates.

I asked Directions on Microsoft analyst Michael Cherry before the Vista SP1 screen-shot sighting this week whether he thought Microsoft might try to do away with client service packs, starting with Vista. Cherry’s response:

“It appears that a number of people within Microsoft think that the full fledged service pack is no longer needed, because Windows Update provides a mechanism to get fixes to customers. Because everyone can download the fixes they need as soon as they are released, there is less need have rollups or service packs.

“The only thing keeping me thinking they would do a service pack was to formalize the delivering of the PatchGuard API (application programming interface) to the software vendors who need it.

“Key to keep in mind when discussing Service Packs–I can find nothing that obligates Microsoft to produce any. Any killing them kills the ‘wait for SP1 mindset.’”

Now we just need an SP1 date, beyond the “simultaneous with Longhorn Server” one that Microsoft execs provided last year. Anyone got any updated SP1 timing info to share?

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Vista SP1:It Lives
It's still in the beta stage. So forget about it in the meantime. (Read the rest)
Posted by: jwlcarlos Posted on: 12/15/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Those with dialup[ will not like no SP1 option.  osreinstall | 05/17/07
If you have a slow connection ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/07
You are generally screwed  osreinstall | 05/18/07
Service Packs and XP support  w_c_mead | 05/18/07
More than just XP  osreinstall | 05/18/07
Those on still on Dialup  bmore_bro69@... | 05/21/07
Tell that to those that broadband is unavailable.  osreinstall | 05/21/07
Vista SP1:It Lives  jwlcarlos | 12/15/07
Running it here already...  Mike Cox | 05/17/07
Quite ironically, this becomes reality  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
You need to seek  Linux User 147560 | 05/17/07
I would consider your advice .....IF  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
Amen, brother  sackbut | 05/18/07
Also, where you really see that kind of Corp. behavior....  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
Hmmm you sure seem to know alot  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/17/07
What I do know...  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
HAHAHAHAHAHA  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/17/07
"what I write feels right to me"  Ole Man | 05/18/07
Then take your own advice  sackbut | 05/18/07
Didn't you know xunil_z is a Mac Zealot wearing MS clothing ?  Intellihence | 05/19/07
Nope, so selection.  Linux User 147560 | 05/17/07
There is an easy fix.  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
Xunil_Z is a MacBook pro user in the closet . I have proof .  Intellihence | 05/19/07
ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!  Intellihence | 05/19/07
More bogus statements from monkeyboy and xunil_z .  Intellihence | 05/19/07
Fired Employee  davidr555 | 05/17/07
so much for a life huh.  redtrain65 | 05/17/07
Go for it!  guiri | 05/18/07
The fishing is weird today.  shallow_diver | 05/17/07
Message has been deleted.  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/18/07
Well Well  gotitright | 05/17/07
10!!!!  James T. Kirk | 05/17/07
I see...  Inigo Chamerberlin | 05/18/07
Message has been deleted.  SO.CAL Guy | 05/18/07
Mike Cox dribbles to the net  maldain | 05/18/07
Blast that 'Message has been deleted' protocol  flatliner | 05/19/07
Going into production with pre-alpha Vista SP1  Info-Safety, LLC | 05/18/07
Sounds like a toxic envronment there . . .  bob@... | 05/18/07
Fired on the spot?  Bobbyquicksilver@... | 05/19/07
Unfortunate.  Anton Philidor | 05/17/07
Are you saying you don't want new features?  Michael Kelly | 05/17/07
New features should be a separate release.  Anton Philidor | 05/17/07
Well ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/07
Of service packs and roll-ups.  Anton Philidor | 05/18/07
What perfomance enhancements are those  voska | 05/18/07
Who's surprised?  ejhonda | 05/17/07
THEY LIVE  Imaginos1892 | 05/17/07
Once again...all Vista, no XP  MGP2 | 05/17/07
Hey, what about Windows 3.1?  balsover | 05/17/07
Is that a policy?  MGP2 | 05/19/07
XP still gets security updates, and those who buy the new product  HypnoToad72 | 05/17/07
About WGA  Mectron | 05/17/07
Try telling that to people who bought XP less than a year ago  Michael Kelly | 05/17/07
XP Service Pack 3: It lives!  MGP2 | 05/23/07
Build 6001? SP1 v.113? Are you sure it`s Windows Vista?  Raiker | 05/17/07
Longhorn Server = Vista SP1  PB_z | 05/17/07
The best way to divert the wait till SP1 mindset  DevGuy_z | 05/17/07
Why so much focus on SP1?  ye | 05/17/07
Because  frgough | 05/17/07
And?  ye | 05/17/07
Very relevant  voska | 05/18/07
You think SP1 will be 100% issue free?  ye | 05/18/07
Very true  cybermorgan@... | 05/18/07
That's what SP2's there for...  kamahl928 | 05/20/07
Yeah Because we all know  bmore_bro69@... | 05/21/07
Times have changed...somewhat  PB_z | 05/17/07
I suspect you may know why many THINK  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
cont....  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
Because we have learned from past mistakes  redtrain65 | 05/17/07
I look at it differently  xuniL_z | 05/17/07
Actually:  odubtaig | 05/17/07
What problem are you experiencing that SP1 will fix?  ye | 05/17/07
You mean...  odubtaig | 05/17/07
No, I don't mean. I meant what I asked. I'll repeat:  ye | 05/18/07
I apologise  odubtaig | 05/18/07
Or rather a substitute NT  odubtaig | 05/18/07
It's a simple question. Why the reluctance to answer it?  ye | 05/18/07
not running Vista  voska | 05/18/07
Because he's tested it and determined...  ye | 05/18/07
That was SQL Sever 2005  voska | 05/18/07
I repeat What bug(s) in Vista would prevent him...  ye | 05/18/07
because Microsoft has promises to keep  ChazzMatt | 05/18/07
Because I'm waiting for it  voska | 05/18/07
Because there is a MYTH associated with ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/07
I wouldn't call it a Myth  voska | 05/18/07
re: Why so much focus on SP1?  devlin_X | 07/09/07
SP1 or Hotfix rollup just makes sense  jfp | 05/17/07
Vista SP1? Already????  itanalyst | 05/17/07
Not really.  redtrain65 | 05/17/07
What else is new?  SquishyParts | 05/17/07
Warum ist diese Artikel alle auf Deutsch?  itanalyst | 05/17/07
Looks like Englisch to me  John L. Ries | 05/17/07
It's German.  Grayson Peddie | 05/18/07
The English & The Germans are more related than what we all think .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/18/07
Vista SP1: It Lives  rondev | 05/17/07
To quote the great Bugs Bunny  jakenhauser | 05/17/07
I don't buy it!  mwagner@... | 05/18/07
Vista SP 1: It Lives  rondev | 05/18/07
Delaying?  Freebird54 | 05/18/07
This shows  statseeker@... | 05/18/07
Well according to the MS Zealots & Shills there no flaws  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/18/07
Please provide proof to support this asserion of yours.  ye | 05/18/07
nah, it's the nickname  voska | 05/18/07
Then again there is a Kernel in Windows . Is there not .  Intellihence | 05/19/07
The impact to sales is negligible ...  mwagner@... | 05/18/07
Too early to talk about this...  Narg | 05/18/07
Of course there will soon be an SP1 for Vista...  Crabby Guy | 05/18/07
SP1 for Vista  bentonbill@... | 05/18/07
Vista SP1  fredfarkwater@... | 05/18/07
SP stories  Mitch 74 | 05/18/07
Vista SP1  jayb1@... | 05/18/07
That's easy: No SP, no VISTA purchase!  bob@... | 05/18/07
These forums suck  harrisharris | 05/18/07
Harris welcome to the ZDNET batcaves .  Intellihence | 05/19/07
The Pirates would love a SP1  cybr2th | 05/18/07
More bloat, lovely, puh...  tek_heretik | 05/18/07
fired him  meowrs@... | 05/19/07
Mike Cox is ZDNET's monkeyboy . Don't take him seriously .  Intellihence | 05/19/07
M$ FUD  attila2 | 05/19/07
Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporat  Lawrence550 | 05/21/07
Come on Microsoft  pressrat@... | 05/21/07
WinFS  3dguru | 05/22/07
I am at a loss for words (NOT!)  ProfessorJWN | 06/03/07

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