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November 10th, 2009

Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:07 am

Categories: Channel, Corporate strategy, OEMs, Resellers, System builders, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7 Starter, Netbook, Microsoft Windows 7, Netbooks, Nettops & MIDs, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Hardware, Mary Jo Foley

Another day, another Windows 7 study. The latest comes from Retrevo, a consumer electronics shopping site, which asserts that users aren’t keen on Windows 7 netbooks running Starter Edition.

In a blog post entitled “Is Microsoft Trying to Kill the Netbook Market?” Retrevo officials outline their findings, based on responses from 1,100 of its “users.” Among the claims are users aren’t aware of the limitations of Windows 7 Starter Edition (like no desktop personalization, no multimonitor support, no DVD playback). Retrevo said 54% of respondents would not be satisfied if their new Netbook only came with Windows 7 Starter Edition. XP Starter was a better choice, Retrovo’s respondents said.

While I do think Microsoft would like nothing better than for the netbook market to disappear, as it has put a serious dent in its Windows client margins, the rest of Retrovo’s findings seem off-base to me. (Example: Windows 7 netbooks running Starter will support the use of a DVD player via a USB port, contrary to Retrovo’s assertion that Microsoft killed that XP Starter feature.)

Whether you agree with Microsoft’s decision to continue to field lots of different Windows SKUs or not, I’d claim the company has been pretty clear for the past year that Windows 7 Starter was not going to be able to do everything. (Originally, it also was going to be crippled so it wouldn’t allow users to run more than three apps concurrently, but Microsoft removed that limitation earlier this year.)

Microsoft officials also have noted that PC makers can choose any version of Windows 7, including Ultimate, to preload on netbooks. Whether OEMs can cost-justify some of the pricier SKUs is another matter.

I’ve been shopping for a Windows 7 PC starting on October 22, the day they went on sale at retail. I’ve been impressed by the choice of Windows 7 netbooks I’ve found. Many come with Starter Edition; others I saw were preloaded with Windows Home Premium. Toshiba loaned me one of their Mini NB205-N330 netbooks running Windows 7 Starter. I’ve found it very responsive, portable and perfect for my basic daily  tasks (surfing the Web, posting to my blog, answering email, etc.).

Yes, I am a more educated consumer than many out there, so I know what a netbook running Starter will and won’t do. But two different salespeople at my local Best Buy were very clear with me about what Windows 7 starter netbooks would and wouldn’t do. I’m not implying that it’s been completely smooth sailing for PC users looking to move to Win7; Computerworld noted recently that some Dell and HP users who ordered upgrades to Windows 7 are having to wait considerably longer than they were led to believe for their upgrade disks.

I’d be curious what others in the market for Windows 7 PCs have found. Are retailers, PC makers, resellers savvy about the new PCs and upgrade deals out there? Are Windows 7 Starter netbooks good enough for you?

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I would say it is the other way around, buy one cheap with Linux and replace it with Windows. I started with Linux but now it has user friendly Windows 7 Home. It is just as fast, it dosen't crash eit... (Read the rest)
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Very satisfied  shellcodes_coder | 11/10/09
Who care  cne@... | 11/19/09
It's a intentionaly crippled OS from a software company with lackluster QAC  T1Oracle | 11/10/09
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Precisely  de-void | 11/10/09
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Non MS OS  ngukurr | 11/19/09
The figures are not worthless!  notsofast | 11/20/09
I don't know why the trouble..  JCitizen | 11/21/09
Missed 1 part  anovelo | 11/21/09
Interestingly  tracy anne | 11/19/09
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I have 7 Pro on mine *NEW*  Michael Kelly | 11/10/09
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"Great" versus "good enough". Why enable mediocrity? *NEW*  HypnoToad72 | 11/10/09
Linux great? That's good enough for a laugh.... *NEW*  transposeIT | 11/11/09
Laugh it up, you didn't try. *NEW*  Mitch 74 | 11/17/09
RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  eInfinity | 11/10/09
I think most folks would agree that... *NEW*  yschoo1@... | 11/11/09
Big Misconceptions about Netbooks and Windows *NEW*  Mr. Dee | 11/10/09
"The person who buys a Netbook don't care about changing a wallpaper" *NEW*  jacarter3 | 11/10/09
Mr Dee possibly doesn't have.. *NEW*  yschoo1@... | 11/11/09
Personalisation *NEW*  ngukurr | 11/19/09
The exact problem with kids *NEW*  GameOvR | 11/23/09
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Yes, but still... *NEW*  eInfinity | 11/11/09
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Ridculous *NEW*  ngukurr | 11/19/09
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I think the long term use problem you mention is a personal one. *NEW*  Mabrick | 11/19/09
What you are saying ... *NEW*  mwagner@... | 11/19/09
RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  eInfinity | 11/10/09
Is that Starter or higher? *NEW*  daboochmeister | 11/16/09
Windows 7 Premium on mine *NEW*  jscott418 | 11/10/09
54% of how many? *NEW*  Bozzer | 11/10/09
how many users *NEW*  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 11/10/09
Um no MJ the poll doesn't say that at all... *NEW*  Johnny Vegas | 11/10/09
agreed *NEW*  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 11/10/09
If you read the story... *NEW*  lawryll@... | 11/10/09
I think you need to read the article again. *NEW*  Rick_K | 11/10/09
You can always find a "study" to support any point of view *NEW*  kd5auq | 11/10/09
Sorry, but no *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
Indeed *NEW*  thebeans | 11/19/09
A correction *NEW*  The Mentalist | 11/10/09
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RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  gt_at_work | 11/10/09
RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  Loverock Davidson | 11/10/09
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I agree - not underpowered *NEW*  homant@... | 11/19/09
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Not a lost sale.. *NEW*  JCitizen | 11/19/09
Linux is best for netbooks  *NEW*  cayers21 | 11/10/09
Why Ubuntu then? *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
Linux is not easier to use on Netbooks *NEW*  amywohl | 11/11/09
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I have 1 GB *NEW*  Michael Kelly | 11/10/09
MJ, I think there's a mistake in the post *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
XP Starter *NEW*  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 11/10/09
For those not following the real story the poll is crap *NEW*  Johnny Vegas | 11/10/09
Re: Vista *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
Such a not surprising result *NEW*  oncall | 11/10/09
True *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
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Most commercial versions of Linux require it *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
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we know, we know... *NEW*  The Mentalist | 11/10/09
Actually *NEW*  NStalnecker | 11/10/09
But the "Student Use Agreement" you signed with MS says this: *NEW*  The Mentalist | 11/10/09
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1000HE = best netbook so far *NEW*  Joe_Raby | 11/10/09
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Win 7 on 2GB Netbook *NEW*  george_dearing@... | 11/10/09
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RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  bishopg@... | 11/16/09
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RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  howardgr | 11/17/09
Love It! (not starter) *NEW*  zenwalker | 11/19/09
A friend bought the HP and I think it has Pro on it... *NEW*  USTechHead | 11/19/09
Crap Survey, Crap Article *NEW*  NameRedacted | 11/19/09
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RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  levstein | 11/19/09
Of course they are. Most buyers ... *NEW*  mwagner@... | 11/19/09
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Out of Box Experience *NEW*  Mattster67 | 11/19/09
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RE: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you? *NEW*  gregzdnet | 11/19/09
Title should mention STARTER part *NEW*  johnd126 | 11/19/09
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Just to set the record straight *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/19/09
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Get a real Computer.. *NEW*  PsyBeats | 11/20/09
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