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December 22nd, 2009

Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 9:48 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Development tools, Legal, Office, Office 2007, Office 2010/Office 14

Tags: Patent Infringement, Verdict, XML, Microsoft Corp., Bloomberg L.P., Microsoft Office, Office Suites, Software, Mary Jo Foley

Microsoft is going to have to cease providing Custom XML as part of its Office suite, as it has lost its appeal to overturn a patent-infringement verdict awarded to Toronto-based i4i for that technology.

The plaintiffs were seeking $200 million for patent infringement. The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals is awarding i4i more than $290 million, plus an added $40 million for intentional infringement, according to a Bloomberg report about the December 22 court verdict. Microsoft has until January 11 to remove the cease selling copies of Office which include Custom XML functionality — a date which is five months after the original late August 2009 ruling date, the Bloomberg report said.

According to what I had heard previously, Microsoft already has figured a way to disable the Custom XML feature and could address the court order via a release of a Word 2007 version with a patch that will disable that functionality. I’d assume the same fix will be applied to Office 2010 between now and its final release by June 2010. See Microsoft response below: Officials say Custom XML isn’t in the Office 2010 beta and that they only have to remove the offending technology from copies of Word 2007 and Office 2007 that are sold on or after January 11.

According to Microsoft, Custom XML is the support for custom-defined schemas. It enables integration of documents with business processes and business data.

I’ve asked Microsoft for further information about what the company is planning, as a result of today’s ruling. I’ll add an update to this post once I hear back.

Update 1: Here’s Microsoft’s official response regarding today’s loss of its appeal from spokesperson Kevin Kutz:

“This injunction applies only to copies of Microsoft Word 2007 and Microsoft Office 2007 sold in the U.S. on or after the injunction date of January 11, 2010.  Copies of these products sold before this date are not affected.

“With respect to Microsoft Word 2007 and Microsoft Office 2007, we have been preparing for this possibility since the District Court issued its injunction in August 2009 and have put the wheels in motion to remove this little-used feature from these products.   Therefore, we expect to have copies of Microsoft Word 2007 and Office 2007, with this feature removed, available for U.S. sale and distribution by the injunction date.  In addition, the beta versions of Microsoft Word 2010 and Microsoft Office 2010, which are available now for downloading, do not contain the technology covered by the injunction.

“While we are moving quickly to address the injunction issue, we are also considering our legal options, which could include a request for a rehearing by the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals en banc or a request for a writ of certiorari from the U.S. Supreme Court. “

Update 2: Thanks to Reader “Bitzie,” we now know .Microsoft already has released a patch that disables Custom XML In fact, it looks like this patch went to OEMs in October 2009.

The “supplemental” release for Office 2007 in the U.S. includes a patch, that once, installed, makes sure “Word will no longer read the Custom XML elements contained within DOCX, DOCM, or XML files. These files will continue to open, but any Custom XML elements will be removed. The ability to handle custom XML markup is typically used in association with automated server based processing of Word documents. Custom XML is not typically used by most end users of Word.”

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RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case
he he he everybody be prepared for Windows 8 coming out soon, to regain microsoft' losses from this suit. :-D

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Just when it might have been thought that...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
Or maybe...  nick.holmes | 12/22/09
One man's obvious is another man's "Huh?"  zkiwi | 12/22/09
Be careful, this is bad for all...  LiquidLearner | 12/22/09
No, it isn't...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
your biased  pcguy777 | 12/23/09
Common sense however...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
Common Sense?  MachineMan1 | 12/23/09
Nope. Software patents are bad  DonRupertBitByte | 12/22/09
I agree, but...  mdsock@... | 12/23/09
Not to nit pick...  LiquidLearner | 12/24/09
OOXML, ODF and custom XML  Mary Jo FoleyZDNet Moderator | 12/22/09
Thanks for clearing that up  LiquidLearner | 12/23/09
re: One man's obvious is another man's "Huh?"  none none | 12/22/09
Criminal  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
If the crime fits...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
true  adr5@... | 12/23/09
I don't agree...  GrizzledGeezer | 12/23/09
So you're advocating ignoring patents because you...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
SO TYPICAL of MSucks!  sfaid | 12/23/09
Speaking of 'obvioius'..  mejohnsn | 12/23/09
On obvious...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
You mean like Microsoft patenting the page up/ page down keys?  914four | 12/23/09
And?  Sleeper Service | 12/23/09
OpenSource?  UsernameRequired | 12/23/09
Wow, one example...  LiquidLearner | 12/24/09
Why not simply "License" the technology?  kd5auq | 12/22/09
You assume i4i is willing to license it  PB_z | 12/22/09
It has been reported...  UsernameRequired | 12/23/09
Re: License  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
You are assuming there is a technology to license  drorharari | 01/05/10
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  arknu | 12/22/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infri  RicD_ | 12/22/09
Erm...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
Thank you for your reply.  RicD_ | 12/22/09
Well, thanks...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  tburzio | 12/22/09
Another bad ruling by a broken system  Bruizer | 12/22/09
a well deserved verdict  Linux Geek | 12/22/09
Everything in Linux is stolen/infringed  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
Truth hurts, huh? [nt]  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
For Linux losers that is...nt  transposeIT | 12/22/09
So sue us  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
Yeah right...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
The only danger with Linux  CapitalismAteItself | 12/23/09
You just Make Things UP, Don't You?  mejohnsn | 12/23/09
Why's that?  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
FUD  Linux Geek | 12/23/09
Not FUD. Actually a few hundred have been found  Johnny Vegas | 12/23/09
Speaking of keeping up...  none none | 12/23/09
It's bad M$ habits...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
Who do you sue?  LiquidLearner | 12/24/09
Absurd  drorharari | 01/05/10
Hardly an Idiot.  jamillikan@... | 12/23/09
And, the day of reckoning may be closer than you think!  windozefreak | 12/23/09
Oh my! shocked  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
A VERY well deserved verdict, indeed!  bendib | 12/26/09
You mean less power for Open Office  K B | 12/28/09
Software patents are bad for EVERYONE  Ole Man | 12/28/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  Bitzie | 12/22/09
EVERYONE loses over an OBVIOUS (stupid) patent.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/22/09
Then WHY do MICROSOFT and OTHERS not get around to...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
No, they don't love patents.... unless it's their own  Lerianis10 | 12/22/09
They didn't just sit on it!!  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
They were adding something SEPARATE to a Microsoft product  Lerianis10 | 12/23/09
And THIS was patented in 1998!!!  UsernameRequired | 12/23/09
The courts disagree  balaknair | 12/23/09
No...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
Make something  balaknair | 12/23/09
They have been  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/22/09
No they haven't  zkiwi | 12/22/09
re: They have been  none none | 12/22/09
Who was sueing them back in '86?  B.O.F.H. | 12/22/09
Microsoft patents granted on 22 December 2009  Ole Man | 12/22/09
They have used patents offensively  Viva la crank dodo | 12/23/09
Attack on Custom XML documents  croberts | 12/22/09
Re: linux guys are all excited  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
LinuxGeek had to weigh in....  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
Okay you two take it outside.  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
Why don't you join them...******...nt  transposeIT | 12/22/09
In your case...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
Let them have their fun :-D  Ole Man | 12/22/09
Man I would pay money  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/23/09
Ah, the rantings of...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
One more thing.  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
How does it invalidate  Viva la crank dodo | 12/22/09
Re:INVALIDATES the use of XML as a tool in the document realm."  balaknair | 12/23/09
Bad idea  aleizabar | 12/23/09
Bad idea?  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infri  Loverock Davidson | 12/22/09
How is it bad for all?  Viva la crank dodo | 12/22/09
Because Loverock is a paid MSFT attackdog  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
I see  Viva la crank dodo | 12/23/09
wrongamundo, Lattimore...  pgit | 12/23/09
BZZT! INCORRECT!  DonRupertBitByte | 12/22/09
LMAO, MS is the chief patent troll and karma finally bit them. nt  T1Oracle | 12/22/09
Like others have also got wrong...  UsernameRequired | 12/23/09
RE: Like others have also got wrong  bfilipiak@... | 12/23/09
The i4i patent is fraudulent  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
Are you and Linux Geek twins? [nt]  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
More like you're part of a triplet...nt  transposeIT | 12/22/09
Looks like I hit a nerve with you too.  Arm A. Geddon | 12/22/09
Well ya gotta understand  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
Erm, it isn't fraudulent...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
And, what was that?  windozefreak | 12/23/09
Find out for yourself, you are capable of reading are you not?  zkiwi | 12/23/09
In other words....  jasonp@... | 12/23/09
i4i  Viva la crank dodo | 12/23/09
Eolas is another menace  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
i4i and Eolas are patent trolls and should be shut down!  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
NO they shouldn't, and won't be  DonRupertBitByte | 12/22/09
I guess you should also ask for Microsoft to be shut down as well...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
Its a very nice christmas gift thx santa  Quebec-french | 12/22/09
i4i should have raised this with the EU instead..The fine would be billions  transposeIT | 12/22/09
At a certain point MSFT will simply stop doing business in Europe  MSFTWorshipper | 12/22/09
By all means, let MS stop doing business in Europe.  Zogg | 12/22/09
... and watch it go backwards  stewymelb | 12/23/09
You are ever so slightly (i.e. completely) off topic!  Zogg | 12/24/09
Europe.  CapitalismAteItself | 12/23/09
Who loses then?  sporkfighter | 12/24/09
In the EU, software is not patentable  Michael Kay | 12/23/09
Not for lack of trying of course.  CapitalismAteItself | 12/23/09
Erosion continues  nobama_2012 | 12/22/09
Software patents are generally bad for society  K B | 12/22/09
Agree  sboverie@... | 12/23/09
generally bad for society?  jpdemers@... | 12/23/09
Not quite how it would work ...  K B | 12/23/09
Don't be So Dishonest!  mejohnsn | 12/23/09
Another patent troll  wayne62682 | 12/22/09
Hey idiot...  zkiwi | 12/22/09
your subject line  Jack-Booted EULA | 12/22/09
Oh?  zkiwi | 12/22/09
Another scum-sucking MegaCorp  Jack-Booted EULA | 12/22/09
Hey you  Boot_Agnostic | 12/23/09
i4i sues all developers on earth...and beyond  doug_wead | 12/22/09
but seriously  doug_wead | 12/22/09
Here's a thought...  jasonp@... | 12/23/09
"All developers"?  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
My ISV Application uses Custom XML - what now?  steve@... | 12/23/09
Nope...  jasonp@... | 12/23/09
Best to see what MS has to say on this  LizaJay | 12/23/09
License the tech or buy the company  Boot_Agnostic | 12/23/09
For half the "fine" I know guys  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/23/09
Your lovers or the guys you drool for?  B.O.F.H. | 12/23/09
None of those "ways" is remotely amusing, though.  Zogg | 12/24/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  October16 | 12/23/09
Can we get a rebate?  wisemanb | 12/23/09
I don't believe it affects the new file versions  Drask | 12/23/09
Just wanted to inform you officially(tm)  arcebus@... | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft XML word processing  RedVeg | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  CustomComputers | 12/23/09
No! Just means MSFT has more investors.  windozefreak | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  strueb | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  mflanery | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  scotty_ranking@... | 12/23/09
Don't rejoice too soon; there is still the Supreme Court.  windozefreak | 12/23/09
I guess the world cant read xml elements without paying for it  pcguy777 | 12/23/09
Yours is the Absurdity Here  mejohnsn | 12/23/09
Microsoft goes openly political  Ole Man | 12/23/09
Why not?  MSFTWorshipper | 12/23/09
Ha ha ha Spoken like a true politician  Ole Man | 12/23/09
Why not??  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
It is a free market. You just have know how to play!  windozefreak | 12/23/09
Sure, by finding out...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
No! But, having something people truly want.  windozefreak | 12/23/09
Who says you speak for the people?  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  tom@... | 12/23/09
No evidence...  MSFTWorshipper | 12/23/09
Except that evidence accepted by the court, and...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
No proof required? -- lol...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
What comes around goes around...  MSFTWorshipper | 12/23/09
And in other news...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
I was born and raised in Arkansas...  windozefreak | 12/23/09
So, did you do anything...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
I'll see your bad teeth and raise you your bad breath...  windozefreak | 12/23/09
Well sport...  Wintel BSOD | 12/23/09
Are you sure you're not related to...  zkiwi | 12/23/09
Short answer, you better duck  Ole Man | 12/23/09
Were you born yesterday?  none none | 12/23/09
LOL, not likely...  Dave32265 | 12/23/09
I hope the SCOTUS declares the Patent office null & void  MSFTWorshipper | 12/23/09
Agreed.  DErentzen | 12/23/09
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?  msalzberg | 12/26/09
"Ideas do not belong to any one person or corporation! "  Ole Man | 12/27/09
Not that big an issue  EricTN | 12/23/09
News Flash..............  Alan Smithie | 12/24/09
Patents and MS  Aussie_Troll | 01/05/10
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  Jonno-the-First | 01/11/10
RE: Microsoft loses its appeal in $200-million-plus Custom XML patent infringement case  cr34t0red | 01/11/10

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