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June 22nd, 2007

Even Softies get the Vista installation blues

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 7:18 am

Categories: Vista, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Mary Jo Foley

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This is one for all of you readers who’ve had trouble installing Windows Vista. Don’t feel bad. Even some Microsoft developers — who have the Vista team on premise — can’t manage to upgrade to Vista.

Microsoft developer Andy Pennell wanted to install Vista at home. (Pennell is a developer on HDi, the interactivity layer for HD DVD.)

He bought a copy of Vista Ultimate. And then all hell broke loose — as he blogged this week in a post entitled “Installing Vista: My Personal Hell.” Trouble started for Pennell early, when he tried to get the media out of the new, curved Vista packaging:

“I was seriously considering a trip to the garage and to smash the box open with a hammer, when I discovered another transparent sticker that was holding two parts together. With that gone, the box moved a few more millimeters, until I realised the thing opens sideways, and boom: Vista was opened. I’ve installed entire operating systems more quickly and with less stress than opening this box…”

From there, things only got worse:

“Short story: installing Vista for me was a catalog of problems, some mine and some not. … (Things) went downhill to include weekend-long unsuccessful installs, bricking my PC, and exercising my Dell warranty to get a replacement motherboard, hard-drive and secondary hard-drive. And after all that, guess what: I still haven’t installed it.”

Pennell’s conclusions:

* “Vista cannot install to Dynamic discs (which is the default when you add a new drive to XP): switch them to Basic before attempting a Vista install

* “Only update your BIOS if you have good warranty cover on the motherboard, or are feeling lucky

* “Unplug memory card readers before installing

* “Dell’s warranty and support organization rock

* “My particular hardware cannot install Vista, and no-one knows why.”

Bring on Windows Seven!

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Interesting  bportlock | 06/22/07
Gosh! Vista was easy to install!  jpgeorgia | 06/26/07
Refreshingly Honest  BanjoPaterson | 06/22/07
Agreed. While my experiences with Vista have mostly been positive,  HypnoToad72 | 06/24/07
I had troubles with the box too  Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
Those boxes are tough as **** to open  Leria | 06/22/07
The box is a test  kmatzen@... | 06/22/07
Severe Cut On Hand  escapepod | 06/25/07
Have to question this individual's motives...  Mike Cox | 06/22/07
9.0!  smartyram | 06/22/07
9.0  BanjoPaterson | 06/25/07
8.5 Not bad.. but...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/25/07
Whose the mole?  jbianch | 06/27/07
WOW. Caught a big one this time !  Yamust B. Kiddingme | 06/29/07
Why are the stupid fish MS haters.  Cayble | 06/29/07
What is the purpose of this blog?  ye | 06/22/07
It's dishonest  jcg_z | 06/22/07
Wha??!  kajral@... | 06/22/07
Wha? (pt 2)  pj_mouse | 06/25/07
Yep! BIOS Upgrade is a biggie  jpgeorgia | 06/26/07
Bios blues  cheesyone | 07/04/07
BIOS upgrade anb more  DNSB | 07/01/07
Incompatible? How?  Zogg | 06/22/07
Only if you believe that the Compatibility Wizard is perfect.  ye | 06/22/07
Then why did they make the wizard?  zkiwi | 06/22/07
As a guide. Or are you so naive as to think that...  ye | 06/22/07
Which just goes to show...  zkiwi | 06/22/07
Lied is harsh...Perhaps it just does not have a fall  Laff | 06/22/07
The tool lied. - now there is a surprise  deaf_e_kate | 06/22/07
So my trust that you were not so naive was misplaced.  ye | 06/22/07
Then why did they make the wizard?  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
As a guide. How many times must I repeat myself?  ye | 06/22/07
As a guide. How many times must I repeat myself? ????  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Obviously once was not enough for you though.  ye | 06/22/07
mistaken sentiments  xuniL_z | 06/24/07
Compatibility Wizard is pointless then  deaf_e_kate | 06/22/07
Compatibility Wizard is pointless then  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
And he DID "actually use it".  Zogg | 06/22/07
"Compatibility Wizard"???  Ole Man | 06/22/07
well....  xuniL_z | 06/24/07
Well......  Ole Man | 06/25/07
Not pointless, just not perfect.  ye | 06/22/07
Who said anything about "perfect"???  Zogg | 06/22/07
If it's not working then it's reasonable to assume...  ye | 06/22/07
It would also be reasonable to assume  zkiwi | 06/22/07
Would it also be reasonable to assume  xuniL_z | 06/23/07
So...  zkiwi | 06/23/07
no....but  xuniL_z | 06/23/07
The machine was obviously "compatible" enough for WinXP.  Zogg | 06/23/07
Keep on trying  zkiwi | 06/23/07
So then you can explain  xuniL_z | 06/23/07
If you are asking for a type of software bug that is intermittent...  Zogg | 06/24/07
Zogg, I really doubt  xuniL_z | 06/24/07
Are you a software engineer?  Zogg | 06/24/07
no  xuniL_z | 06/24/07
That's circular logic  Zogg | 06/22/07
"If it's not working then it's reasonable to assume..."  Ole Man | 06/22/07
It sure can  voska | 06/25/07
Vista on a Gas Oven  David Spencer-20660146163390554490918120654216 | 06/25/07
Be careful for what you wish for...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/25/07
I believe the current status of the "MS Vista Oven" project is ...  Zogg | 06/26/07
The point really isn't that difficult if you are open-minded  craiglarry | 06/24/07
Three things  ShadeTree | 06/22/07
Three things ?  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Evidently not on the ...  ShadeTree | 06/22/07
Evidently not on the ... ???  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Even Softies get the Vista installation blues?  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
But..but...but...but....................?  Ole Man | 06/22/07
But..but...but...but...? Out of gas!  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
I didn't see caveman mentioned  Ole Man | 06/23/07
ole-man he backed up his system first  SO.CAL Guy | 06/25/07
"i just don't see the big deal."  Ole Man | 06/25/07
Cutting right to the chase....  Jack-Booted EULA | 06/22/07
Note to Mary Jo  ShadeTree | 06/22/07
Note to Mary Jo ?  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
I have had my coffee but disagree that this ...  ShadeTree | 06/22/07
I have had my coffee but disagree that this ...  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
What I've heard and seen  voska | 06/25/07
Learning from past mistakes  rramirez@... | 06/22/07
Failed BIOS update... And why did he choose the 64 bit version?  eljay001 | 06/22/07
Failed BIOS update... And why did he choose the 64 bit version?  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
re: ...And why did he choose the 64 bit version?  M.R. Kennedy | 06/23/07
There's something seriously dysfunctional at Microsoft when this happens  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 06/22/07
Well, since Apple controls both hw *and* sw  mosborne | 06/22/07
There's something seriously dysfunctional at Microsoft when this happens  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
YinToYourYang i've had problems upgradeing a few macs (NT)  SO.CAL Guy | 06/25/07
This Guy's Not Lying...My Experience Was A Nightmare  itanalyst | 06/22/07
This Guy's Not Lying...My Experience Was A Nightmare  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Yeah, I Ran The Advisor  itanalyst | 06/22/07
Yeah, I Ran The Advisor  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
re: This Guy's Not Lying...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/22/07
To Answer You  itanalyst | 06/25/07
reL To answer you  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/07
"not Microsoft's fault"  Ole Man | 06/25/07
re: "not Microsoft's fault"  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/07
"out of context"????  Ole Man | 06/26/07
it is a well know fact the older Nero will not work on vista when doing  SO.CAL Guy | 06/25/07
During the whole beta period ...  ShadeTree | 06/25/07
this has been true since XP  lauren.glenn@... | 06/26/07
Hmmm, all this from a guy that can't open a box.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
Hmmm, all this from a guy that can't open a box.  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Message has been deleted.  itanalyst | 06/22/07
Yeah, That You're A MORON ????  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
You Don't Know No_Axe  itanalyst | 06/22/07
Pot. Kettle. Black.  M.R. Kennedy | 06/22/07
Pot. Kettle. Black. Rather rude!  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
ATI Mobility 9200 Radeon in a whitebox  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/22/07
re: Pot. Kettle. Black. Rather rude!  M.R. Kennedy | 06/23/07
If you have read enough of No_Ax's posts...  Zogg | 06/22/07
Really???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/07
Did I say I was talking about "this post"?  Zogg | 06/23/07
You have to forgive him  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/23/07
Finally...an answer...  MGP2 | 06/23/07
Embarass?? You Never Showed Up  itanalyst | 06/25/07
The reason I had so much troubles  Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
re: The reason I had so much troubles  M.R. Kennedy | 06/22/07
A harbinger of things to come...  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/22/07
re: Hmmmm  deaf_e_kate | 06/22/07
Took Me a Minute or Two  owl06 | 06/22/07
It's a "WOW" box  Ole Man | 06/22/07
All it tells you...  BanjoPaterson | 06/23/07
All it tells you...  aussieblnd@... | 06/23/07
Read his post  DNSB | 07/01/07
Well nothing and no one is perfect....  Laff | 06/22/07
Bleh...  Mike (not Cox) | 06/22/07
Sounds like my install  combrink | 06/22/07
Sounds like my install  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Same Here  T1Oracle | 06/25/07
Oner Night Install  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/22/07
One Night Install !!  aussieblnd@... | 06/22/07
Ok, I gotta ask....  IAHawkeye | 06/22/07
Frankly, I'd recommend a clean install or a new computer.  CobraA1 | 06/22/07
Even a new computer does not necessarily help!  mike_edwards | 06/25/07
The normal condition of software is... broken.  Anton Philidor | 06/23/07
Microsoft insanity  yagijd | 06/24/07
Marketing disaster  professordnm | 06/25/07
Unfortunate - But it does Happen  jpr75_z | 06/24/07
What M$ is thinking  johnf76@... | 06/25/07
WINDOW VISTA  sabiodun@... | 06/25/07
RE: Pennell?s conclusions:  pierreandrejoubert@... | 06/25/07
Softies ?  seanka@... | 06/25/07
re: Softies ?  pwoodruff@... | 06/25/07
VISTA INSTALL  dradioz@... | 06/25/07
I Should Follow My Own Advice  usad | 06/25/07
buy an apple  pvhastings | 06/25/07
Boxwood hedge, 9' tall  danzig6 | 06/25/07
Installing Vista on the Dell computer???  marvincotter@... | 06/25/07
Here's a thought  nivekjg | 06/25/07
I pity this poor guy  henrystahle@... | 06/25/07
Dont just blame MS, Blame the hardware vendors  s.mccann | 06/25/07
Windows Vista Install  frj111@... | 06/25/07
I'm an MS Developer and I Switched to Mac Because of Vista!  IQ9 | 06/25/07
Put it back in the box  othergary@... | 06/25/07
Vista Ugrade  xrayangiodoc | 06/25/07
Reality Check on Vista  Old Timer 8080 | 06/26/07
Exactly!  Ole Man | 06/27/07
Upgrade  pj-xmesh | 06/26/07
What's the big deal  jonathan_stephenson@... | 06/26/07
Earlier Comments  frj111@... | 06/26/07
Publishers need to catch up with Vista  jpgeorgia | 06/26/07
I didn't even try putting Vista on 2 older PCs  jpgeorgia | 06/26/07
New OS on Old Hardware  pj_mouse | 06/26/07
I agree with the clean install comment  mames1701 | 06/26/07
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The Company Behind It  pj_mouse | 06/26/07
Even softies get the Vista installation blues  marvincotter@... | 06/26/07
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