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June 25th, 2007

Google complains (again)

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 12:16 pm

Categories: Code names, Corporate strategy, Google, Legal, Search, Service Pack, Vista, Windows Live

Tags: Desktop, Google Inc., Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Corp., Desktop Search, Mary Jo Foley

That didn’t take long.

A week after Microsoft announced it would amend Windows Vista so that its integrated Instant Search functionality won’t hamper the performance of third-party desktop-search programs, Google has complained to the government again.

In a new, seven-page amicus brief — a copy of which Seattle Post-Intelligencer reporter Todd Bishop links to — Google is asking the U.S. Department of Justice’s antitrust division to force Microsoft to go further.

From Google’s brief:

“(F)rom what Google understands of the remedies, it appears that more may need to be done to provide a truly unbiased choice of desktop search products in Vista and achieve compliance with the Final Judgment.”

Google wants Microsoft to have to provide a firm date for the final release of Windows Vista Service Pack (SP) 1 — since all Microsoft has committed to publicly so far is a first beta before the end of calendar 2007. (I’ll second that request!)

But a couple of other things in Google’s brief are troublesome. First, Google says Instant Search is a repackaging of MSN Desktop Search. As far as I can tell, given Microsoft’s Live/Windows Live branding confusion, I don’t believe this claim is accurate. Instant Search, the technology/feature formerly known as Windows Desktop Search, is related to MSN Desktop Search but is not a repackaging of it.

(The team working on Windows Search 4 — the next iteration of desktop search, formerly code-named Casino — is part of the Windows team.)

Google also says Microsoft has been unclear about how it will implement the integrated-search changes it said it planned to make. From the brief:

“For example, it appears that Microsoft will continue to show its own desktop search results when users run searches from prominent shortcuts and menu entries throughout the operating system, though users will now be given a mechanism to request results from their chosen desktop search product by taking a second step after they have first viewed results from Microsoft’s product.”

I thought Microsoft’s four-pronged plan for changing integrated search was pretty clear.

In fact, I think Microsoft has been quite up-front for nearly a year that the company planned to integrate what its execs have been calling “convenience search” into Windows and other Microsoft products. Microsoft officials have claimed repeatedly that they believed convenience search would be more important, in terms of who leads the search market in the future, than “destination search” (going to a Web address specifically to search).

Google never seemed like it took these claims very seriously. So what changed — and when?

Am I being to Soft on Microsoft when it comes to its strategy to integrate search everywhere? Is Google raising some credible issues (beyond the need for a real date for the final version of Vista SP1)?

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your logic fails
Microsoft was convicted. They are without any question guilty as charged, but
they were NOT punished,



When anyone says this, they are being hypocritical imho. How can you say the... (Read the rest)
Posted by: xuniL_z Posted on: 06/28/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Positioning for the Post  Jerry M. Gartner | 06/25/07
Google are acting like a bunch of losers  zzz1234567890 | 06/25/07
Microsoft continues to be the monopolist that it is !  Intellihence | 06/25/07
the more likely scenario, of course  xuniL_z | 06/25/07
Shut up, fool.  James T. Kirk | 06/26/07
Message has been deleted.  fr0thy2. | 06/26/07
Google are acting like intelligent observers.  Resuna | 06/26/07
I dont see Google complaining against Linux distros  code_Warrior | 06/25/07
Of course not.  DemonX | 06/25/07
what you are saying is equivalent to  code_Warrior | 06/25/07
Bolognia  DemonX | 06/25/07
Easy enough to use any 'search' you choose  lisacate@... | 06/26/07
And yet...  zkiwi | 06/25/07
*burp*  xuniL_z | 06/25/07
Message has been deleted.  thungurknifur | 06/26/07
Getting back on topic...  Michael Kelly | 06/26/07
Dude, you need to seek some help...  James T. Kirk | 06/26/07
To Mr. Kelly  maldain | 06/26/07
@ maldain: Put the crack pipe DOWN!  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
No they are not.  Rndmacts | 06/26/07
because there's nothing to complain  tombalablomba | 06/25/07
Strawmen?  thungurknifur | 06/26/07
Correct, MS cannot do whatever they want  Michael Kelly | 06/26/07
True they do have that right  maldain | 06/26/07
Ludicrous... Simply ludicrous...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
I beg to differ  cheesyone | 06/27/07
Easily fixed  TtfnJohn | 06/26/07
That's not what happens  maldain | 06/26/07
Wrong target  rapson | 06/26/07
Here, here  cheesyone | 06/27/07
Really...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
no need to complain  Mitch 74 | 06/26/07
Goole is right  Randalllind | 06/25/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/25/07
Don't speak on behalf of the world little man .  Intellihence | 06/25/07
and you have no right to speak for the world, you midget  BrutalTruth | 06/25/07
re: Don't speak on behalf of the world little man .  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/07
Message has been deleted.  fr0thy2. | 06/26/07
I don't see how a 5 year through a tantrum is right....  fr0thy2. | 06/26/07
Who cares about SP1?  ye | 06/25/07
I agree  TripleII | 06/25/07
According to this article search has existed since W2K  ye | 06/25/07
It's not the public who cares  eb276 | 06/25/07
Isn't it surprising  xuniL_z | 06/25/07
?  thungurknifur | 06/26/07
I said their desktop  xuniL_z | 06/26/07
Twisted logic  comp_indiana | 06/27/07
your logic fails  xuniL_z | 06/28/07
What's next?  Alber1690 | 06/25/07
Google search is nothing but SPYWARE.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/25/07
Agree  Alber1690 | 06/25/07
I did a Google search on "crybaby" and I got Goolge's homepage...  joethemacfan | 06/25/07
thats hilarious  BrutalTruth | 06/25/07
And it had No_Axe's picture on it too.....(NT)  linux for me | 06/26/07
Little man , your words mean nothing .  Intellihence | 06/25/07
So you are blaming them for your spam now?  B.O.F.H. | 06/25/07
Tell me if this is spyware.  xuniL_z | 06/25/07
Wow. for a second there I thought you were describing Windows. (NT)  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/07
Only on Windoze...  comp_indiana | 06/27/07
ummmm....not quite right  xuniL_z | 06/28/07
Hear, hear!  rptasiuk | 06/26/07
Hear, hear!  rptasiuk | 06/26/07
Why would anybody want to replace windows search with google desktop  zmud | 06/25/07
RE: Why would anybody want to replace windows search with google desktop  kevintxu | 06/25/07
Not to worry ...  George Mitchell | 06/25/07
Microsoft is a worthless pile of trash !  Intellihence | 06/25/07
....  Badgered | 06/25/07
Behave  Shelendrea | 06/25/07
Fanboy Fud  Stan57 | 06/25/07
Beyond a leopard, a panzer is burning.  osreinstall | 06/25/07
Mental Midget... Moron...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
Be fair, be honest and don't lower yourself  intrepi@... | 06/26/07
Not competely, but  cheesyone | 06/27/07
If I were Google  Michael Kelly | 06/25/07
I hope you're right  rapson | 06/25/07
A hint: If MS does want to win this one  Michael Kelly | 06/25/07
Prior Art...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
Where is their Spot Light complaint  moondragon | 06/25/07
The Law  sbeckstead@... | 06/25/07
Next Google will be telling when/if MS can release next version of Windows  BrutalTruth | 06/25/07
Vote for new judges!  C0MM3NT | 06/25/07
Google should sue MS for copying Google Desktop search  Randalllind | 06/25/07
get your history straight  daniel.rodriguez.delgado@... | 06/25/07
Huh?  JamesGeek | 06/25/07
Unix, you fool, or any others for that matter  cheesyone | 06/27/07
Well, unfortunately I think they're right  Igor Abade [MVP-Brazil] | 06/25/07
Message has been deleted.  ballmerrules@... | 06/25/07
Touch of Hubris...  John L. Ries | 06/26/07
Google Whining  ejryder3 | 06/26/07
Exactly the point!  Freebird54 | 06/26/07
I don't want CRAPWARE  mames1701 | 06/26/07
whine whine whine  varick | 06/26/07
Google is all about Google  KrazyGuy | 06/26/07
It's all about intent...  LaJuan | 06/26/07
Google Monopoly  philip.niel@... | 06/26/07
What part of "convicted criminal" do you not get?  JoshNorton | 06/26/07
Antitrust is a civil offense  John L. Ries | 06/26/07
Not to mention...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/26/07
Legal Entity  desamuelson | 06/26/07
The problem is the timing.  Resuna | 06/26/07
Google should have a competing OS  nydas | 06/26/07
Dont Get It  desamuelson | 06/26/07
Sick to Death  Fujikid2 | 06/26/07
something to consider  dave712004 | 06/27/07
Vista Hijacks Users Requests  wwwsupport | 06/28/07

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