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July 20th, 2007

Windows Seven: Think 2010

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 1:01 pm

Categories: Corporate strategy, Vista, Windows 7, Windows Live, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Corp., Software Assurance, Mary Jo Foley

Windows Seven now has an official ship target — 2010.

At Microsoft’s Global Exchange (MGX) annual sales conference in Orlando this week, Microsoft shared a bit more — albeit at a high level — on Windows Seven, according to a copy of a slide deck I saw that was distributed to the field sales force during the conference. Among the information shared was that Microsoft is anticipating it will take at least three years from now to get the next version of Windows client out the door.

Last time anyone got Microsoft to talk dates about Windows Seven, the next big Windows client release, a Windows exec slipped up and said something about 2009.

Microsoft officials told MGX attendees that the company is currently internally planning Windows Seven. So far, the company has determined Windows Seven will come in both 32- and 64-bit flavors. No word on how many SKUs or any kind of guidance on features was provided, but Microsoft did say it would address both consumer and business segments with Windows Seven. Microsoft is mulling the concept of how to extend Windows Seven with subscription-based services, according to the deck — more like Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack (MDOP), which Microsoft currently offers to its Software Assurance customers, than Windows Live, however.

(MDOP builds on top of the Windows Vista Enterprise Centralized Desktop SKU — also only available to Software Assurance volume licensees. It includes: asset inventory, SoftGrid application virtualization, diagnostics and recovery toolset, advanced group-policy management and desktop error-monitoring capabilities.)

Maybe this talk of extending Windows with certain Software Assurance-only subscription services is what spurred the Gartner Group to predict this week that Microsoft plans to make Software Assurance mandatory? Not sure….

Before Microsoft delivers Windows Seven, it plans to roll out an update to its current MDOP offering, Vista Service Pack 1 and then another MDOP update, according to the deck. Microsoft made no dates — tentative or otherwise — available for these planned releases via the deck.

Microsoft officials confirmed the veracity of this Windows Seven information. (I know! Shocking! Right after I spent the week dinging them for increasing opacity!)

The long version of Microsoft’s statement, courtesy of a Windows client spokesperson:

“As part of our ongoing outreach to enterprise customers and partners, Microsoft has begun sharing plans for how they will continue to deliver value to businesses in the future, including Software Assurance customers in particular. As part of this, we are sharing some preliminary information on Windows ‘7’ — the internal name for the next version of the Windows Client OS — as well as updates on other future Windows-related releases such as the Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack. Microsoft is scoping Windows ‘7’ development to a three-year timeframe, and then the specific release date will ultimately be determined by meeting the quality bar. In the meantime, Microsoft is dedicated to helping customers deploy and get the most business value from their PCs using Windows Vista and related technologies like the Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack, and we’re encouraged by the response and adoption of these products so far.”

Short answer: Yes, it is going to take us at least three years to release Windows Seven. Longer if it’s buggy and doesn’t hit the “quality bar.”

The Windows teams a while back set themselves the goal of releasing new versions of Windows client and Windows server every two years, alternating between major and minor releases. Microsoft’s Office team has prided itself on releasing like clockwork new versions every 24 to 36 months.

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RE: Windows Seven: Think 2010
Personally i hope it will be best of all windows till today.
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All I can say is...  BitTwiddler | 07/20/07
All I can say is  DarthRidiculous | 07/20/07
& they think APPLE users are crazy ,,,  Intellihence | 07/20/07
Blackjack and hookers? No, that's Bender isn't it.  odubtaig | 07/20/07
$129 for an OS!! SIGN ME UP!!!  NonZealot | 07/20/07
Sure it will  Intellihence | 07/20/07
Don't be a cheapskate?  NonZealot | 07/20/07
You missed the point old chap .  Intellihence | 07/21/07
Hardware business?  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Oh Xunil I love you .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Don't you mean a 129.99 dollar upgrade?  John Zern | 07/22/07
He's a child...what do you exptect.  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Yes.. and no...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/23/07
Sorry, don't like apples...if you represent them.  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
You mean you still pay for your OS?  dansen926 | 07/23/07
I to will buy 1,000 copies of Mac OS X.  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
How is the ZUNE market nowadays ?  Intellihence | 07/20/07
I don't know. Good enough that Apple  John Zern | 07/22/07
Actually it's not that bad....if you actually did any reasearch  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
I heard the the Zune market is a complete and utter failure .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Dont' know, but I'm guessing your not biased or anything...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
TalkBack: Reply to message  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
Better stay with what you know  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
They are crazy. And you are the RDF wannabe when Jobs goes home.  osreinstall | 07/20/07
More F.U.D. from the Fud Meisters .  Intellihence | 07/21/07
More immaturity from the fanbois.  osreinstall | 07/21/07
And you are what....beside ignorant....go play on the fruit forums  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
They are crazy.  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
that phrase again  mindilator@... | 07/23/07
that phrase again  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
aussieblnd@hotmail.com any one who has any tech knowledge at all  SO.CAL Guy | 07/23/07
But , but , but ,,,,  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
You have to have $5000 in Macs to take advantage of the $199 special.  osreinstall | 07/23/07
You are lying !!!  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Am I? OSX will be running on newer hardware.  osreinstall | 07/23/07
I see you cannot read  osreinstall | 07/23/07
Hey NONE_Liar...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/23/07
Thou drink too deeply of the koolaid  eldernorm | 04/08/08
To put it best, for you.  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Why would anyone listen to you ?  Intellihence | 07/22/07
Well, ask yourself that question.  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
APPLE did not get anything free . Steve Jobs bought it .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
hi fools  i.kdawg69@... | 09/28/07
And your posts are  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Well golly geeee  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
None_z...: from what I have read I have to agree with you.  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
To put it best,  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
Are you saying they learned from Apple?  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
If you paid 199.99 for OS X you can install it on 5 Macs .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Who can afford 5 Macs?  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
With $500.00 you could buy 5 iBook G-4's at eBay .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
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I paid $130 - US...and you are nuts...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
I paid 199.00 for OS X and installed it on 5 Macs .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
But I use mine in the real world and not play  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
So your saying...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
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I'm tired of India all they way around!  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
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$400 idiots  CodeBubba | 07/23/07
You are really no better than the other guy  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
NOT AT ALL ...  mwagner@... | 08/01/07
You paid how much for what ?? . . I've got some ocean front property ...  Basic Logic | 07/21/07
eBay - $150 and up for VU  Dr. John | 07/23/07
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Think 2014 as in Seven Years  MarcB_z | 07/20/07
Win XP support till 2014  misceng | 07/23/07
ROFL  SysAdmin202 | 07/21/07
Seven  Michael Kelly | 07/20/07
you would be correct sir...  Monkey_MCSE | 07/20/07
As well  Linux_4u! | 07/20/07
Seven of Nine  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
I'm reminded of  Len Rooney | 07/20/07
Windows Seven, I am in Heaven...  Mike Cox | 07/20/07
The future is in FAT clients.... LOL! happy  Mikael_z | 07/20/07
And the humor in that is......  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
However  Michael Kelly | 07/21/07
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Wrong subject. I wasn't talking about terminal services that's..  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
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You keep saying the same thing  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Microsoft support?  Ole Man | 07/21/07
I'm not limiting myself.  odubtaig | 07/22/07
PS  odubtaig | 07/22/07
What?  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
Again, who are ABM?  odubtaig | 07/22/07
Very well, if you must resort to ad hominem attacks.  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
ole man  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
Glad you made it back safe and sound, Zuney  Ole Man | 07/22/07
oh please.  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
The question is genuine, if badly phrased.  odubtaig | 07/23/07
Word documents for home users  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
Your genuine question  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
Don't worry about your credibility, Zuny  Ole Man | 07/23/07
sigh, ole man.  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
sigh, nnnnmmmmm, uuuuuuggghh, wink  Ole Man | 07/23/07
Just getting ready to take a nap, Zuny  Ole Man | 07/23/07
Of course you won't have what normal people use there Ole Man  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
Not exactly the same.  odubtaig | 07/23/07
PDFs are open source?  xuniL_z | 07/24/07
PS Paragraphs.  odubtaig | 07/21/07
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I to will deploy Windows 7 !  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
deploy Windows  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
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Mike any idea as to when SP1 will be made ?  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
Time to drop 32 bit  boxmonkey | 07/20/07
Agreed  CobraA1 | 07/22/07
vista is the last 32bit OS  Randalllind | 07/23/07
vista is the last 32bit OS  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
32 bit software runs at 32 bit speed  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
You are so right, it's time to drop 32 bit  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
It is time to drop 32 bit  Leria | 07/23/07
Unfortunately ...  mwagner@... | 07/23/07
64-bit ONLY please!  Narg | 07/24/07
Feature Focus  johnfenjackson@... | 07/20/07
Feature Focus  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
Five years and little more than "eye candy" ???  Basic Logic | 07/21/07
MS aggressively pursues Apple with Seven  jamesisin | 07/21/07
PULEASE....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/21/07
Uhuh?  odubtaig | 07/21/07
Well....  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Look up Project Looking Glass.  odubtaig | 07/21/07
Umm...the ABMers used to call that "eye candy" and  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Good grief! He's rested up  Ole Man | 07/21/07
Who are these ABMers?  odubtaig | 07/22/07
One more time....slowly  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
It's about the daily flogging microsoft users are given  Ole Man | 07/22/07
Ole Man....on how payback is hell. Or you picked on me in second grade, now  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
"payback is hell"  Ole Man | 07/23/07
Wake up Ole man  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
PULEASE....  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
That's pretty good I like that!....  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
please pulease .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Go use your "lubricants"  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Better Late Than Never, orrrrrrrrrrr............  Ole Man | 07/21/07
Nothing to see here but more SPAM.  xuniL_z | 07/21/07
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssss! We see all your kindness and generosity  Ole Man | 07/21/07
You always take it hook line and sinker....  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
Hate to break it to you, Zuny  Ole Man | 07/22/07
15 minutes of fame.  xuniL_z | 07/22/07
xuniL_z trying to argue with old man is like arguing with a tree  SO.CAL Guy | 07/23/07
"And I don't care about credibility"  Ole Man | 07/23/07
NoCal, why haven't you posted some links  Ole Man | 07/23/07
SO.Cal.guy  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
Ole Man  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
Zuny  Ole Man | 07/23/07
And it's obvious  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
re:Nothing to see here but more SPAM.  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
oh my.  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
I live next door to you Xunil .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Nothing to see here but more SPAM  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
Well let's just pile it on now  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
I don't believe it .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
lol, the 13 were easy enough to shoot down  CobraA1 | 07/22/07
All your answers  Ole Man | 07/22/07
oohh, it's the attack of the red herring links!  CobraA1 | 07/22/07
Label them "Red Herrings" if you like  Ole Man | 07/22/07
I never said "Microsoft is God"  CobraA1 | 07/22/07
You have a reading comprehension problem  Ole Man | 07/23/07
God forbid these people speak poorly about Microsoft .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
you are obviously new...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Dream on  justwait | 07/28/07
An anemic bully?  Ole Man | 07/29/07
Waterboys  SquishyParts | 07/21/07
Too smelly for water  Ole Man | 07/22/07
7 of 9  George Jay | 07/22/07
Fly on the Wall  CowLauncher | 07/22/07
Fly on the Wall  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
read Windows 7 = Subscription software?  Randalllind | 07/23/07
Why wait?  ohiomike | 07/23/07
Windows 7 = Subscription  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
funny thing....you said  xuniL_z | 07/23/07
It only looks free, MS gets paid  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
What planet are you from ?  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Microsoft charges a one time fee  xuniL_z | 07/24/07
"companies would scale back jobs,"  Ole Man | 07/24/07
That's it.  xuniL_z | 07/25/07
No, no, noooooooo! Zuny!  Ole Man | 07/25/07
You got it wrong ole man  xuniL_z | 07/26/07
You got it wrong, Zuny  Ole Man | 07/27/07
you missed my point.  Randalllind | 07/23/07
Most versions and distros of Linux are easier  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
agreed  saint9121@... | 07/23/07
32 bit?  desamuelson | 07/23/07
Bill...Give us a break.....  mrdood_99205@... | 07/23/07
Unblinking Brown Eye  pvhastings | 07/23/07
I think MS is developing a patch for your brown eye  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
XP forever!  eddanko@... | 07/23/07
I agree XP works well enough for me too  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
XP FOREVER  Spin State | 07/23/07
Eventually XP will become stale  T1Oracle | 07/23/07
Tired of Tirades  desamuelson | 07/23/07
Tired of Tirades  aussieblnd@... | 07/23/07
and you can explain your time how....  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
I second your motion, use what works for you  intrepi@... | 07/23/07
You are missing the purpose of these blogs  Ole Man | 07/23/07
Amen - and I'm guilty of falling into  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Windows Seven  CodeBubba | 07/23/07
aussieblnd you mac fanbois just have to rant and troll to justify  SO.CAL Guy | 07/23/07
I'm a Winblows user and I like it .  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
You must one of those  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Running for the title of "Most Bloated OS ever"  wolfie2x | 07/23/07
In 2010 Vista will still be a joke.  T1Oracle | 07/23/07
re:In 2010 Vista will still be a joke.  None_Zealot | 07/23/07
Mean like you are right now...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
Mine works fine, so does my XP and my Ubuntu...  fr0thy2. | 07/23/07
I've had all three and XP works better  T1Oracle | 07/23/07
Windows 7?  DOSlover | 07/23/07
Windows version history  PB_z | 07/23/07
Most of those we not full version upgrades ...  mwagner@... | 08/01/07
Ripped off by Microsoft Vista and Acer  dusty_reed@... | 07/24/07
Add the Longhorn features back in?  dlmeyer@... | 07/24/07
I'm Going to the Chapel  DaffyDuck | 08/01/07
Buggy? Next Version should be FREE to EVERYONE!  Evisscerator | 08/01/07
Subscription for Windows 7???  joe.krisanda@... | 08/08/07
Why Bill Gates (BG)  andrej770 | 08/13/07
OS X Apps  ChodaBoy | 09/22/07
RE: Windows Seven: Think 2010  ironfist03 | 09/28/07
Vista will go the way ME went.  cunliffe@... | 10/01/07
I agree  bobkop@... | 10/04/07
Ok, I found the pampers  gettinoriginal2@... | 10/26/07
Mary Jo, check your calendar.  msalzberg | 04/08/08
RE: Windows Seven: Think 2010  akbar75 | 11/09/08

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