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August 21st, 2007

Can Vista SP1 help polish Vista's tarnished image?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 9:23 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Service Pack, Vista, Windows 7, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows Vista SP1, Mary Jo Foley

Call it complaining. Call it whining. The end result is the same: Windows Vista’s image is tarnished. And it’s corroding more and more rapidly as the weeks are going on.

Microsoft has dismissed much of the Vista criticisms as coming from hard-core and hard-to-satisfy techies who always want more and better. But even some of Microsoft’s biggest customers and closest developers are going public with their reasons why a number of things in Vista that are just plain bad. And these are people who have been working with Vista builds for years, not those feeling panicked when confronted with the new and unfamiliar.

Can Microsoft do anything to stop the Vista bashing? I think it can. But I’m not sure officials are willing to change course at this point.

A quick look back: Microsoft had no choice but to finally get Vista out there. Microsoft released Vista to manufacturing in November 2006. Company officials knew that many hardware and software vendors, tired of trying to keep up with Microsoft’s changing ship schedules, had decided to wait until the code was final before trying to make sure their wares were Vista-compatible, resulting in tardy driver and application support. They knew system performance and reliability wasn’t at the levels they had hoped.

In spite of these realizations, Vista management decided to try a few new tricks to speed Vista adoption. They decided to get deployment and evaluation tools into business users’ hands more quickly than they did with XP. They also decided to push enhancements out to users on a regular basis via Windows Update. These were good ideas.

They also decided against discussing Service Pack (SP) 1 for Vista (as readers of this blog know all too well). The corporate message, instead, was Microsoft would continue to improve Vista incrementally via new downloads and Windows Update releases. No need to wait around for a service pack. This may have sounded like a good idea. But it ended up being a bad one.

If I were on the Vista team, I’d be doing everything in my power to talk up and fast track SP1, as Josh Phillips over on the WindowsConnected.com site recently suggested. (Update: Maybe Microsoft is putting the pedal to the metal with SP1. I hear testers got another new pre-beta recently — Build No. 6.0.6001.16633 (longhorn.070803-1655) and the SP build now in installable format, rather than an integrated component of a refrehsed Vista build.)

Sure, service packs are not panaceas. But there are some good fixes on the alleged SP1 feature list.

Rather than continuing downplay the fact that SP1 is in testing and won’t really matter (to many corporate users, it does and will), why not tout SP1 as the rock-solid release that Vista could and should have been a year ago?

And while the mea culpas are flying, why not introduce new marketing slogan? The “Wow” thing wasn’t so wowing. How about something a little more realistic and humble?

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Whether you think Vista is being beaten up unfairly or justifiably, do you think Microsoft can undo some of the image-damage with Vista SP1? Or is something more drastic required? (And if so, what, short of rushing a 6.5 interim update out the door?)

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Sticking Vista back together with Band-Aids...  Henrik Moller | 08/21/07
huh?  NoneOfYourDamnBusiness | 08/21/07
It means Vista is going to take a lot more time and work  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
Isnt SP1 'unofficially' out??  comnut | 08/23/07
Vista my experience  redtrain65 | 08/21/07
re: 64 bit Vista  Arm A. Geddon | 08/21/07
Define we, define all software and hardware  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
Or not.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
Gee, Anton...I like science fiction too......  linux for me | 08/21/07
and can you say all the crap HP does to the os before shipping was not  SO.CAL Guy | 08/21/07
OK,  Cardinal_Bill | 08/21/07
Exterminate!!!!!!!!  nomorems | 08/21/07
Blah blah blah...blame the computer vendors who are forced to include Vista  nomorems | 08/21/07
Apple is great if you want no games  Nandro | 08/22/07
I'm sure the new Apple Leopard OSx will  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
Do you think 10's of millions of users...  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
10s of millions...  jasonp@... | 08/21/07
That's why I wrote...  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
Except for the general observation...  jasonp@... | 08/21/07
home users mostly  Joe_Racer | 08/21/07
Anton is a LIAR! Anton is a LIAR!  nomorems | 08/21/07
Uncertainty reigns  Jambalaya Breath | 08/22/07
I'll give you credit  BFD | 08/21/07
Most polls are like that  MacCanuck | 08/22/07
Vista is not a new OS  John L. Ries | 08/21/07
A piece of a good point.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
People don't like change  ITGuy04 | 08/21/07
Cheap.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
Have to disagree  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
But for non-dev types (like your wife) Apple Scripts just plain kicks!  nomorems | 08/21/07
Just a thought, here...  cheesyone | 08/23/07
9.3! You out "Coxed" Mike  TripleII | 08/21/07
Agree  jwettstrom@... | 08/22/07
The press loves Vista, the public does not.  trentreviso | 08/30/07
I share Anton's views.  xuniL_z | 08/21/07
Not! Just another MS Shill!  nomorems | 08/21/07
Your views are well known  Ole Man | 08/21/07
Well Ole Man  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
Attack the messenger why don't ya! - NT  raycote | 08/22/07
"my tombstone will even say"  Ole Man | 08/22/07
suddenly  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
My advice  Ole Man | 08/23/07
Vista is an incremental improvement  Chad_z | 08/21/07
Blah Blah Blah  imallin6969 | 08/22/07
Running against the wind  Ole Man | 08/22/07
Yes, I get it now.  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
Yes, search your Microsoft software  Ole Man | 08/23/07
Welcome...  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
Okay, so I'm a Linux fanboy....  cheesyone | 08/23/07
Vista is fundementally flawed...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
wow... I agree...  Stuka | 08/21/07
Just an example..  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
Hmm...  Stuka | 08/21/07
Same 'Ol, same ol'!  nomorems | 08/21/07
MS forces more than upgrades too  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
Microsoft and security.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
I see it differently...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
Killing Legacy apps  frgough | 08/21/07
there is an XP Compatibility mode...  xuniL_z | 08/21/07
Out with the old.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
No. MS suffers from 'Make as much money from prior work as possible'.  nomorems | 08/21/07
What do you mean by entirely new runtime  xuniL_z | 08/21/07
There is another version of VSTO  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
ok.  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
Microsoft looked in the next room down the hall.  Anton Philidor | 08/21/07
Developers can't tell. And neither can Microsoft.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
Keeping it simple  Anton Philidor | 08/22/07
You make my point for me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/22/07
Vista Security  BFD | 08/21/07
No market for Vista exploits  Chad_z | 08/21/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
I like you a lot better  Michael Kelly | 08/21/07
More to it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
It was around 2004 timeframe  TripleII | 08/21/07
Flawed a bit - but not fundamentally  CobraA1 | 08/21/07
I am the admin and the user - it doesn't work  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
Point by point.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/22/07
Excellent Points  chessmen | 08/22/07
Huzah to that  mighetto | 08/22/07
They will never fix the biggest problem...  BitTwiddler | 08/21/07
What's with this site  voska | 08/21/07
Its waiting on the adds.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
i redirect all the ad links to localhost.. no issues ::)  Been_Done_Before | 08/21/07
Funny  j.m.galvin | 08/21/07
It's their Flash ads...  BFD | 08/21/07
There are ads here?  TripleII | 08/21/07
Amen! nt  firehound | 08/22/07
"popup window blocked" nt  Ole Man | 08/22/07
Windows Vista/updates  seeindian@... | 08/21/07
i will be moving both my media centers this weekend to vista  Been_Done_Before | 08/21/07
You might want to check out Adrian Kingsley-Hughes first  johnf76@... | 08/21/07
Don't buy it till it's fixed?  j.m.galvin | 08/21/07
There are two problems...  msalzberg | 08/21/07
Vista for Others  terrytemes@... | 08/21/07
Another developer rant about Vista.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
What the heck is with you No_Ax? Have you been removed from the fold?  nomorems | 08/21/07
You misunderstand  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/22/07
Is that you?  zkiwi | 08/21/07
It most certainly is  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
The Stockholm syndrome?  Bozzer | 08/22/07
This Blows my Theory That No_Ax was BillG in Disguise...  BanjoPaterson | 08/22/07
No, I am a businessman first...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/22/07
I guess...  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 08/21/07
Vista SP1 - How Much$?  Cheval | 08/21/07
One more thing... XPSP3 & W2KSP5  Cheval | 08/21/07
?  NoneOfYourDamnBusiness | 08/21/07
You got it  Hamlet_z | 08/21/07
msft wouldn't have had so many problems if they would have...  Arm A. Geddon | 08/21/07
64-bit Vista only would have been interesting  johnf76@... | 08/21/07
Legacy support won't let them.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/21/07
Correct No_Ax!  nomorems | 08/21/07
Did you say...  zkiwi | 08/21/07
huh?  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
zkiwi... you lucky SOG  MacCanuck | 08/22/07
Let's evaluate.  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
No, reading a variety of threads and posts...  MacCanuck | 08/22/07
you are sharp today  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
lol  Badgered | 08/22/07
There is no problem Now!  ballmerrules@... | 08/21/07
You of all people need Vista Sp1 to stay quiet...  NoneOfYourDamnBusiness | 08/21/07
I think Adrian's blog could be the next black eye  TripleII | 08/21/07
re: neowin.net  CobraA1 | 08/21/07
Same ole, Same ole  shadowwalker1@... | 08/21/07
How to WOW!  johnfenjackson@... | 08/22/07
What the.... ??? (nt)  James T. Kirk | 08/22/07
Fed up with Microsoft in general  Michael Of Atlanta | 08/22/07
re: Fed up with Microsoft in general  CobraA1 | 08/22/07
re: Fed up with Microsoft in general  Michael Of Atlanta | 08/22/07
Will someone just hoestly give the the scoop on VISTA!?!  Laff | 08/22/07
Nothing wrong with Vista...its a good OS  GeiselS@... | 08/22/07
People are overreacting  CobraA1 | 08/22/07
It always seems that  Badgered | 08/22/07
What's the surprise?  Michael Of Atlanta | 08/22/07
I didn't say I was surprised. (nt)  Badgered | 08/22/07
You need look no furthur  Ole Man | 08/22/07
I will wait until Windows 7  Randalllind | 08/22/07
I will wait until Windows 7  misceng | 08/22/07
too many versions?  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
XP had 4?  Randalllind | 08/22/07
Yes, even w/o starter edition. Technically it's 6  xuniL_z | 08/22/07
ok I see  Randalllind | 08/23/07
No argument  xuniL_z | 08/23/07
Vista Talkback  paulhinz | 08/22/07
Vista is ME in disguise.  ramnet@... | 08/22/07
pleaseeee  gdude@... | 08/22/07
Have gone back to XP...too many incompatabilities  8string | 08/22/07
Yet more Bloat from The Bloatfarm  Jeremy W | 08/22/07
It doesn't matter!!  jlarry | 08/22/07
"The biggest protest is not to buy/pirate or use the product"  Ole Man | 08/22/07
driver problems  kalodev@... | 08/22/07
Battery problems  Ole Man | 08/22/07
It's going to take more time and more work  intrepi@... | 08/22/07
It will need to perform miracles  jbryant@... | 08/22/07
Windows Vista  stland@... | 08/22/07
door slammed  wooley | 08/22/07
solution? Release SP1 NOW!!!! (Official beta is good enough..)  comnut | 08/23/07
Vista adoption  Tom in Toronto | 08/23/07
I Went VISTA Times 3  rush@... | 08/23/07
Ubuntu ftw  Free-BooteR | 08/24/07
Vista Fixes: Too Late  pfb002@... | 08/25/07
One essential thing NOT included in SP1  ivo_z | 08/31/07
RE: Can Vista SP1 help polish Vista's tarnished image?  Jackie150 | 10/11/09
RE: Can Vista SP1 help polish Vista's tarnished image?  sexy costumes | 11/11/09

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