What I think is funny . . .
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|

They can't use ODF.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
 
Document formats are not rocket science and ODF was designed to support all
DonnieBoy | 09/04/07
|
  
Tell you what...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
   
Been there, done that
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|
    
Bull
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
Don't blame the tool
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|
     
Different versions of Powerpoint
Gerry_z | 09/05/07
|
   
I do it all the time
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
   
I've done it, quite successfully
super_J | 09/04/07
|
    
Then your presentations are very simplistic.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
Ever consider...
jasonp@... | 09/04/07
|
     
Or someone is ...
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|
     
Know more about PPT than I?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
Really? Care to name them Professor?
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
No_Ax_to_Grind authored 2 coloring books about PowerPoint?
B.O.F.H. | 09/04/07
|
     
What version of OOo did you try?
PMDubuc | 09/05/07
|
     
BOFH
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
     
Xunil, No_Ax makes some broad claims.
B.O.F.H. | 09/09/07
|
     
the way I see it
xuniL_z | 09/09/07
|
   
You really should have thought that through.
dave.leigh@... | 09/04/07
|
    
I was thinking the same thing
fho | 09/05/07
|
    
Comparison
chromeronin | 09/05/07
|
     
Even better!
marc411 | 10/05/07
|
    
You really should have thought that through.
Chipper1963 | 09/05/07
|
   
Re: Tell you what...
criderja | 09/05/07
|
   
Offer you the same challenge, Axe
EagleTheta | 09/05/07
|
    
Who cares about importing OPen Office.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
|
     
I do!
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|
     
Nobody
chromeronin | 09/05/07
|
     
Nobody #3...
handydan918@... | 09/05/07
|
     
I do
ppyo | 09/05/07
|
     
I and at least eleven others
NoCalDrummer | 09/06/07
|
     
I do
Jambalaya Breath | 09/06/07
|
   
why the focus on conversions?
Al S Cook | 09/05/07
|
    
Free
chromeronin | 09/05/07
|
   
Not virus-compatible?
Resuna | 09/05/07
|
   
An Axe to No_Ax
dstam | 09/06/07
|
  
ODF rejected Microsoft Office Format compatibility
orcmid | 09/06/07
|
   
ODF rejected Microsoft?
NoCalDrummer | 09/06/07
|
   
Here's why:
JDThompson | 09/07/07
|
    
Exactly why there needs to be two very different
xuniL_z | 09/07/07
|
 
Neither does rtf, but they included it . . {nt}
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|
 
Nobody else can use OOXML
Resuna | 09/05/07
|
 
ODF support
JDThompson | 09/05/07
|

It is not so funny
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
 
Standards can be extended
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
  
Oops, meant tens of millions not tens of hundreds (NT)
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
  
It's not so simple
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
   
It is easier
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
    
Not in the real world
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
     
Proprietary Hidden Standard Extentions
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
     
The issue isn't proprietary extensions
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
     
Hey Mr. Revisionist
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
     
P. Douglas check this out as well.
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
   
Excuse me?
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|
   
What hard how?
jklowden2 | 09/06/07
|
  
Standards Can Be Extended
wjkahlssmd@... | 09/06/07
|
 
Reading comprehension strikes again
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|
  
No it doesn't
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
   
Please note direction
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|
    
Here are examples
P. Douglas | 09/04/07
|
     
Funny . . .
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|
     
Paoli and Robertson talk nonsense
putt1ck | 09/05/07
|
 
That's not the point, nimrod . . .
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|
  
MS does not
alaniane@... | 09/06/07
|
 
But ODF won't save everything I want to do
DannyO_0x98 | 09/04/07
|
 
Re: It is not so funny
criderja | 09/05/07
|
Does it really hurt?
yyuko@... | 09/04/07
|

Respectifully Disagree
TripleII | 09/04/07
|

I think you missed one key statement...
MGP2 | 09/04/07
|
 
Yes, government purchase decisions...
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
  
Facts no in evidence
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
   
Political processes.
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
    
Erm...
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
     
Veto authority.
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
     
So...
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
     
Changing the standard...
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
     
Happy developers?
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
    
No, technical.
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
Yes, features need the formats.
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
     
Definition of an ISO Open Standard.
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
When the vote is close...
Anton Philidor | 09/04/07
|
     
That doesn't make the objections political.
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
Definitely technical, ask BSI
putt1ck | 09/05/07
|
  
"Governments, though, do not issue purchase guidelines by motives"
Ole Man | 09/04/07
|
  
My original position still stands . . .
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|
   
Doesn't work that way.
Anton Philidor | 09/05/07
|
    
It doesn't . . .
JLHenry | 09/05/07
|
     
Motives
Anton Philidor | 09/05/07
|
     
Funny, I see it as . . .
JLHenry | 09/06/07
|

Sad, really considering...
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|

I run Linux, and Open Office feels clunky
djchandler | 09/07/07
|

I run Linux, and Open Office feels clunky
djchandler | 09/07/07
|
Nothing wrong with a real standard
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
OOXML is Microsoft proprietary junk.
whisperycat | 09/04/07
|

Excellent reference!
PMDubuc | 09/05/07
|

Beautiful!!
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|

Doesn't get any better.
joe.smetona@... | 09/06/07
|
I will tell you i Microsof tdid not deserve to loose
kalodev@... | 09/04/07
|

I call FUD, complete revisionist (shill position)
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
 
"OO is doing fine... 7% of the corporate market."
blu_vg@... | 09/04/07
|
  
I put my money where my mouth is, do you
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
   
linking to an openoffice.org site as proof???
blu_vg@... | 09/04/07
|
    
A more intelligent rebuttal this time
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
     
Surveys... ***from The Register***
blu_vg@... | 09/04/07
|
     
Rise of a profession greater than lawyer; Rise of the American Programmer
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
     
Are you for real?
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
For Real and CopyRight; US coders own the code they write - Suprised?
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
     
so triplell
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
   
He can't put his money where his mouth is....
Ole Man | 09/04/07
|

One thing...
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
 
Amusing?
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
 
zkiwi....
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
 
well, all i can figure
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|

Spot on Post!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
 
Yup. But why shouldn't they? Somebody needs to.
shawkins | 09/04/07
|
 
Given what MS is doing...
EagleTheta | 09/05/07
|

Author is so So SO Correct: The Mac version of Office 2007 delay is telling
mighetto | 09/04/07
|

Sigh...
SpikeyMike | 09/04/07
|

The only way to ever compete against Microsoft...
jasonp@... | 09/04/07
|
 
Not just answering questions.
Anton Philidor | 09/05/07
|
  
Ageed...
jasonp@... | 09/05/07
|

Analogy alert!
Resuna | 09/05/07
|
Lets be honest
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|

Let's be honest?
Cardinal_Bill | 09/04/07
|
 
And if it is a standard then
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
  
Elighten Us
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
   
Greed works
Mikael_z | 09/05/07
|
    
Yes, the profit motive works.
Anton Philidor | 09/05/07
|
     
"at present the software (Microsoft's) is accepted"
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
    
OOxml seed to stay away from open sourse
koolarry@... | 09/05/07
|

That would not be a bad thing
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
 
Wrong on every count.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
  
Sigh
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
   
Yes, it does apply here.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
Way off topic
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
     
You raised the topic.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
That's not exactly how I remember it.
notsofast | 09/05/07
|
   
SharePoint is Corel Office
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
    
Yes, but has nothing to do with the format.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
Dogs and gods and cats
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
     
It doesn't?
PMDubuc | 09/05/07
|
  
"as long as its not anything from MS"
jacarter3 | 09/04/07
|
   
Then start here at SourceForge
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
Sorry Bitty aka Don Rupert
jacarter3 | 09/05/07
|
    
Wrong - it requires Windows.
NetArch. | 09/05/07
|
  
Are you kidding?
Taz_z | 09/05/07
|

Talk about honesty........
linux for me | 09/04/07
|
 
Well...
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
  
i see
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
  
and
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
 
Yes, lets talk about honesty...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
  
I have to ask, though I already know your answer
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
   
Not in the least.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
see, you need to leard to comprehend
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
     
Oh, so you want them to pull PDF?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
comprehension is definitely not your strong point
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
    
So...
dracolich_prgrm | 11/12/07
|
   
They already have
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
    
doesn't scare me at all...
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
     
does it have to do
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
oh it was meant to compete...
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
     
Now you are talking ODF
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
    
xunil . . .
JLHenry | 09/04/07
|
     
At the heart of this..
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
At the heart of this..
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
     
ole man
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Zuny
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
     
RE: Xunil . . .
JLHenry | 09/05/07
|
     
you are right. my bad.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Sometimes, I wonder . . .
JLHenry | 09/06/07
|
     
I've never liked Ballmer one bit...
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
  
Having trouble reading?
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
   
WMF?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
Huh?
j.m.galvin | 09/04/07
|
    
Which part of 'licensing' equates to open?
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
Are you saying that every standard
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
That to be an ISO standard...
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
you are talking about old versions of office
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
Oh, you me like GIF, PDF, MP4, etc., etc...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
     
I have no idea what you're on about.
odubtaig | 09/04/07
|
     
wrong
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Stop answering questions I haven't asked.
odubtaig | 09/05/07
|
     
So only open source OSes can use ODF...well..
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Again, not what I said. You're not a politician are you?
odubtaig | 09/05/07
|
     
I got that backwards.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Still missing the point.
odubtaig | 09/07/07
|
  
"Trust me when I tell you "???
Ole Man | 09/04/07
|
   
Was anyone
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
    
awww poor axey
Monkey_MCSE | 09/04/07
|
    
The mouth speaks
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|

Funny, no one really disgarees with me here.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
 
Multiple standards limit choice
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
  
How do you even decide if you should try to implement this?
Ole Man | 09/04/07
|
  
Simple
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
   
What does the word standard mean
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
 
Still waiting?
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
  
Only if you promise.....
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
   
silly
shis-ka-bob | 09/05/07
|
  
still waiting??
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
 
US consumers and government corruption
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
  
ugh
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
   
the alpha and omega
mighetto | 09/04/07
|
    
does aleph null come after omega?
shis-ka-bob | 09/05/07
|
 
People Have disagreed with you
goxk@... | 09/04/07
|
 
Re: Funny, no one really disgarees with me here.
none none | 09/04/07
|

ROTFLMAO
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|

You be honest
glocks out | 09/05/07
|
And in the meantime
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|

Good gawd NO!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
 
name them
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
  
according to iso's own documentation
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
 
Well...
zkiwi | 09/04/07
|
 
Wasn't it choice. they were claiming OSS was all about to begin with?
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
  
Did i
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
   
I'm still having trouble
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
    
lets keep it simple
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
     
Not where I live.
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
Sigh
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
     
Still doesn't work
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
xuniL_z: Screws 101
j.m.galvin | 09/04/07
|
     
Xunil
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
     
j m gavin
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
tombalablomba
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
just one more point
xuniL_z | 09/04/07
|
     
I'm trying
tombalablomba | 09/05/07
|
     
you are either...
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Not to jump in the middle of this xunil, but . . .
JLHenry | 09/05/07
|
     
Not to step pon your ignorence xuniL_z, but...
B.O.F.H. | 09/05/07
|
     
j l henry.....i never said it should be any other way?
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
BOFH where did I state the reasons behind the U.S.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
Nice
tombalablomba | 09/05/07
|
     
ok
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
     
change to....
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
  
Yes it was, but it was just another open source lie.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
|
   
You are right about keeping track, so it's best
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
 
Multiple Standards
Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/04/07
|

Don't forget UOF
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
 
yep
tombalablomba | 09/04/07
|
 
Who are you talking about?
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|
Yep, He's Definitely PEBKAC
itanalyst | 09/04/07
|
Point 2 is not logical
kevindaly | 09/04/07
|
And additionally..
kevindaly | 09/04/07
|

Not True
TripleII | 09/04/07
|
this is still a good analogy
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|

oops .. worng button
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
Grasping at straws
Ole Man | 09/04/07
|
Want the real low-down? See grokdoc....
techboy_z | 09/04/07
|
A standard of one ???
Basic Logic | 09/04/07
|
One more comment and then I'm outta here...
Cardinal_Bill | 09/04/07
|
oh please one more time...
shis-ka-bob | 09/04/07
|
Are we standardising the right thing?
Patanjali | 09/04/07
|
Mary Jo, you're wrong, wrong, wrong
zaine_ridling | 09/05/07
|

test
zaine_ridling | 09/05/07
|
 
test2.1
zaine_ridling | 09/05/07
|
  
'ello - who is this?
BanjoPaterson | 09/05/07
|
You are either
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|

oops, meant as a reply to a post.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|

But why should anyone have a monopoly!?
shis-ka-bob | 09/05/07
|
 
Not encumbered with anything.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
  
ODF converters are fiction
shis-ka-bob | 09/05/07
|
   
Not all standards are open standards
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|

But the point is..........
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
It's my data
lordshipmayhem | 09/05/07
|
Ignoring the Obvious
pvhastings | 09/05/07
|
RE: Why Microsoft deserved to lose the OOXML standards vote
dhays | 09/05/07
|
This isn't about conversion...
deefburger | 09/05/07
|
The problem is!
kmashraf | 09/05/07
|
Ax comes out of the closet!!
deefburger | 09/05/07
|

My guess:
EagleTheta | 09/05/07
|
 
Or ...
daboochmeister | 09/05/07
|
  
What would we be without No_Ax?
Rhodie | 09/06/07
|
Failure of the ISO body
gtg781w | 09/05/07
|

Success of ISO
putt1ck | 09/05/07
|

There was nothing abnormal about Microsoft's lobbying
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
I'd never vote for an MS standard, here's why!
Narg | 09/05/07
|
RE: Why Microsoft deserved to lose the OOXML standards vote
orcmid | 09/05/07
|

Well...
zkiwi | 09/05/07
|
 
Microsoft never ever ever claimed
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
  
xuniL_z. you are delusional
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
   
Talking to yourself again? (nt)
JLHenry | 09/06/07
|
    
Oh my Gosh! ..........no actually
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
 
VB6 and VB.NET: Other examples?
orcmid | 09/06/07
|
Worst enemy, indeed
schratboy@... | 09/05/07
|

And you can be sure
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
Whats Google's position on all of this
pcguy777 | 09/05/07
|
It's not ODF v. OOXML, IBM v. MS, it's archival compatability
lmb@... | 09/05/07
|

what about .rtf and html? and .pdf
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
 
Learn what a "Standard" is
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
  
rtf and html and pdf are not standards?
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
   
You think you have to call the Core Of Engineers?
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
    
What are you talking about?
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
     
For the last time
Ole Man | 09/06/07
|
    
Acutally . . .
JLHenry | 09/06/07
|
     
Mixing tomatoes with oranges
Ole Man | 09/06/07
|
     
I believe you. btw, you may have noticed that arguing with..
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|

They are!
cheesyone | 09/05/07
|
 
Well there's your problem
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
  
Apples and Oranges
wjarvis@... | 09/05/07
|
   
try Word 2007.....night and day
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
 
Good On Yer Mate
arcasey | 09/05/07
|
When is a "Standard" not a standard
donmoldover@... | 09/05/07
|

what about if they are for 2 different things?
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
 
2 different things?
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
  
Maybe I shouldn't reply to you.
xuniL_z | 09/05/07
|
   
It is sometimes amusing to read your nonesense
Ole Man | 09/05/07
|
    
Very well educated thank you very much.
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
     
Ever heard tell of an "educated fool"?
Ole Man | 09/06/07
|
     
Of course, but I didn't realize you were educated.
xuniL_z | 09/06/07
|
     
I'm sure you didn't
Ole Man | 09/07/07
|
     
Your point
xuniL_z | 09/07/07
|
     
Which mail order university did you get your degree from?
B.O.F.H. | 09/08/07
|
     
you know
xuniL_z | 09/09/07
|
    
Are you idiots still at it?
Duke E. Love | 09/12/07
|
     
Systems Theory
mighetto | 09/14/07
|
     
P.S. Shut up old man.
Ole Man | 09/19/07
|
  
MS shoving DRM? What about Apple?
charles.holland@... | 10/01/07
|
BitTorrent
BALTHOR | 09/05/07
|
ODF - Powerpoint
chromeronin | 09/05/07
|

I think the main . . .
JLHenry | 09/05/07
|
IMport and fix
chromeronin | 09/05/07
|
As long as the standards body made a reasoned and fair decision
Boot_Agnostic | 09/05/07
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Who Uses OOo
NCWeber_z@... | 09/05/07
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Same here!
mannyamador | 09/06/07
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The Irony of Objection
orcmid | 09/06/07
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The Irony of Rapid Improvement
dave.leigh@... | 09/07/07
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"be more successful than attempting to interfere with it"
Ole Man | 09/07/07
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Good for All
AllGeek2Me | 09/06/07
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OOXML openness
jinko | 09/07/07
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New link
jinko | 09/07/07
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