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September 5th, 2007

Microsoft officially 'extends support' for Novell's Silverlight Linux port

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 6:32 am

Categories: .Net Framework, Corporate strategy, Development tools, Linux, Silverlight (wpf/e)

Tags: Novell Inc., Linux, Microsoft Silverlight, Microsoft Corp., Moonlight, Mary Jo Foley

On September 5, Microsoft announced that the 1.0 version of its Silverlight competitor to Flash is now done and the final bits are available via the Web to any and all users.

Microsoft also announced it is officially has “extended support” for Novell’s port of Silverlight to Linux, the project Novell has christened “Moonlight.” Novell has been working in earnest on the Silverlight port to Linux since April. In June, Novell showed off Moonlight, claiming it took only 21 days to build the working prototype.

Given that Novell already has developed Moonlight, what does Microsoft’s official backing get Novell, at this point?

Novell vice president for developer platforms Miguel de Icaza itemized some of the terms and conditions in a September 5 blog posting:

  • “Microsoft will give Novell access to the test suites for Silverlight to ensure that we have a compatible specification. The same test suite that Microsoft uses for Silverlight.
  • “Microsoft will give us access to the Silverlight specifications: details that might be necessary to implement 1.0, beyond what is currently published on the web; and specifications on the 1.1 version of Silverlight as it is updated.
  • “Microsoft will make the codecs for video and audio available to users of Moonlight from their web site. The codecs will be binary codecs, and they will only be licensed for use with Moonlight on a web browser (sorry, those are the rules for the Media codecs.)”

Novell will be the one to implement Silverlight 1.0 and the follow-on 1.1 release due in the summer of 2008, “and will distribute it for the major Linux distributions at the time of the shipment, de Icaza blogged. “We will offer some kind of one-click install for Linux users …as well as RPM and DEB packages for the major distros and operating systems.”

Brian Goldfarb, Microsoft’s Lead Product Manager of Web Platform and Tools, said Microsoft is planning to back Moonlight via joint marketing, as well, once the final version of the Linux port releases.

Unlike the case with Mono, Novell’s port of .Net to Linux — where Microsoft had more of a love/hate relationship (love or hate depending on whether you were a Microsoft employee who saw Linux as relatively tolerable or cancerous) — with Moonlight, Microsoft is leaving nothing to interpretation with Silverlight. The corporate word: Novell’s Silverlight port to Linux is something to be embraced.

To what do you attribute the differences in Microsoft’s official stance toward Mono vs. Silverlight?

Update: I found a September 5 post on Microsoft’s Port25 blog interesting. Director of Microsoft’s Open Source Software Lab Sam Ramji tells quite a different story about the extent to which the Moonlight and Microsoft teams are working together on the Silverlight Linux port. Ramji says there’s been a great deal of work done in tandem by the two teams. That isn’t the story Novell is telling. Nor is it the one Microsoft’s Developer Division is telling.

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MS and Novell
This is starting to look like another of those: embrace, extend, own schemes.

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Posted by: mbabuskov Posted on: 09/14/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Once again, Novell is in first place with Linux!  Scrat | 09/05/07
before it is accepted.....  n0neXn0ne | 09/05/07
But is that even enough? Could Microsoft create compatibility problems  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
You are not in a position to demand anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Yes, distributions can demand certain things as a condition for installing  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
He is not a distributor.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
And he does not have to be a distributor to have an opinion. And, yes,  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
But as i said, he is  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
And, he was NOT demanding anything from MS he was ONLY giving his opinion  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Reading is fundemental.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
You understand very well that in that context he is giving his opinion of  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
That all depends on how you look at it, Axey  Update victim | 09/06/07
clowntalk  Bozzer | 09/11/07
And the Foil Hat Parade begins!! NT  bka1959 | 09/05/07
I'm happy for Novell because I like SUSE (NT)  joethemacfan | 09/05/07
So am I, It actualy works with ATI chips!!! NT  bka1959 | 09/05/07
But, can we really trust the Fox to guard the chicken coup???  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
You have it backwards.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Nobody is denying that MS is helping bring this to Linux, the only question  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Thats easy...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Right, and foxes that guard chicken coups just want the chickens to be safe  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Not really  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Right, MS only wants interoperability for Linux users and Foxes NEVER eat  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
You're right.  startx.jeff | 09/05/07
MS needs no help, the GPL-3  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Then MS should be welcoming the GPL3 rather than complaining about it.  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Why, GPL-3 is horrible.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Then what is MS afraid of?? They should welcome the GPL3 as it will be the  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Not sure if this is good or bad. Do we have any guarantee that MS will not  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Can you guarantee that Linux  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Well, Linux should go GPL3, but it will take a while. But, we are talking  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Moving to GPL-3 would end MS support  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Man, cry me a river, MS ending suport for Linux, how sad!!  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
It is for those like Novell  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Right, all of those Novel chickens WANT MS guarding the chicken coup.  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Of course it would also harm users  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Well, that is assuming that this deal would result in interoperability.  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Donnieboy, face it...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Still, when the fox wants to guard the chicken coup, we should at least ask  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
Novell/Miguel de Icaza infect Linux  cpr2345 | 09/05/07
I am not sure who is the best chess player here. Is it Miguel de Icaza or  DonnieBoy | 09/05/07
I wish you had even one fact right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Most of the developers employed by Microsoft now use Linux for development  mighetto | 09/05/07
And the Foil Hat Grand Mashal Joins in!! NT  bka1959 | 09/05/07
Dude, your on drugs  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/05/07
Stay away from Window specific technolologies.  shoktai@... | 09/05/07
RE: Microsoft officially 'extends support' for Novell's Silverlight Linux p  shoktai@... | 09/05/07
Differences? Easy  Richard Flude | 09/05/07
Just trust Microsoft!  Ole Man | 09/06/07
MONO is the camel's nose under the tent...  Resuna | 09/08/07
MS and Novell  mbabuskov | 09/14/07

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