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September 27th, 2007

Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 8:45 pm

Categories: App Compatibility, Channel, Corporate strategy, OEMs, Resellers, System builders, Vista, Windows 7, Windows XP, Windows client

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Operating Systems, Software, Mary Jo Foley

On September 27, Microsoft has extended the cut-off as to when PC makers will be allowed to continue to sell Windows XP with new machines.

Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft’s own good?Until now, January 30, 2008, was the Microsoft-imposed deadline for system vendors to cease offering Windows XP on all new OEM machines. (System builders, a k a white-box vendors, had a longer deadline: January 30, 2009.) But as a result of feedback from customers and partners, Microsoft has extended the OEM and retailer cut-off date for XP to June 30, 2008. That gives consumers five more months to buy XP with new Windows PCs before being required to provide Vista.

The system-builder cut-off date for XP stays at 2009. Vendors selling XP Starter Edition on “ultra-low-cost” machines get a longer reprieve and can sell XP through 2010. And, in spite of the later cutover date for OEMs, nothing changes, in terms of how long Microsoft will support Windows Vista: Microsoft will provide mainstream support through 2012 and extended support through 2017.

Microsoft began paving the way for a longer Vista ramp-up in July, when it began simplifying the process by which its top-tier PC partners could downgrade Vista users to XP.

Microsoft officials insist Vista is selling well and the push back of the cutover deadline shouldn’t be interpreted as Microsoft lessening its commitment to Vista. The company will continue to spend its Windows marketing and support dollars on Vista, not XP.

“The one-year XP transition just turned out to be a little too ambitious,” acknowledged Kevin Kutz, a director in the Windows client unit. Traditionally, Microsoft has given OEMs two years to transition to a new operating system release, Kutz said.

Some industry watchers see the move as evidence of Microsoft is being responsive to customers and partners. Others see it as Microsoft going with the lesser of two evils by giving users not ready to move to Vista a choice other than defecting to Mac OSX or Linux. Even though Microsoft is likely making a few less dollars per copy of XP sold to OEMs than it makes on a copy of Vista, a Windows sale is still a Windows sale.

For my part, I can’t help but wonder if Vista finally and irrevocably pushed Windows into the same category as Microsoft Office, meaning that the cost and potential risks of upgrading have come to outweigh the benefit of new features in the eyes of many customers.

What’s your take? Did Microsoft make XP Service Pack (SP) 2 too good for its own good? Or is Vista just an off release that Microsoft should hurry up and replace — and definitely sooner than 2010, when it is slated to roll out Windows 7?

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I've been using MS products since 3.2, actually I began with MS Basic for a while. I've been there through '95, '98, 2000, skipped ME completely [thank God!], & ended with XP. My biggest complaint wit... (Read the rest)
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MOst EXceLLent  catsend | 10/03/07
No numbers, lots of assertions  Jambalaya Breath | 09/28/07
Yes - it must be that pitiful 10% of non-MS users spreading the FUD! LOL-NT  nomoremicrosoft | 09/28/07
Not so!  JakeZ | 04/03/09
It really depends  notsofast | 09/28/07
Pah! My Nvidia 7600 GS is not fast enough according...  tek_heretik | 09/29/07
It may no be your card...  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Vista + Nvidia 7600 GS  lh4x4@... | 10/12/07
Strange Findings  Sheeva | 10/01/07
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re: driver availability  rtk | 10/05/07
Vista is slower -- I have proof  leeshor@... | 09/28/07
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Come on Stevey (again)  itpro_z | 09/29/07
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more features? sure then list them  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Stevey, Stevey, Stevey.  itpro_z | 10/01/07
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what's the point allowing people to share folders then?  stevey_d | 09/29/07
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Network restrictions  itpro_z | 10/01/07
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to: ole man  xuniL_z | 10/01/07
Your system is a beast all right...  wolf_z | 09/28/07
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linux is as cheap as....  masterxtds | 09/28/07
Adoption of Linux  jjmcdonald7911@... | 09/29/07
I have researched thoroughly.  Solid Jedi Knight | 09/29/07
Can't really comment on  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
I might add  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
You made the argument for why not to upgrade  jfp | 09/28/07
SMB Upgrades...  CosmoAgain | 09/28/07
One big reason  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
never recovered from XP  reedjjjr | 09/28/07
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yes it works  tonyfriendly@... | 09/28/07
RE: I really don't see the problem  nwoodson@... | 09/28/07
I will sit behind my Linux  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
Everything I know is true - NT  raycote | 09/28/07
whatever dood  pcguy777 | 09/28/07
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criderja I agree.  starcannon@... | 09/28/07
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The Microsoft Vista team started building computers? (NT)  devlin_X | 09/28/07
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*sniff, sniff* I smell major FUD here.....  devlin_X | 09/28/07
Good blather, poor research  Jambalaya Breath | 09/28/07
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Since WGA I've been asking myself the same...  JCitizen | 10/05/07
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RE:So who's kinks do you like to work out?  nwoodson@... | 09/28/07
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Vista can be configured for older machines.  itpro_z | 09/28/07
Vista on a 4 or 5 year old PC?  devlin_X | 09/28/07
Vista has built in drivers for most stuff.  itpro_z | 09/28/07
RE: Vista has built in drivers for most stuff  devlin_X | 09/29/07
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if the hat fits... (adding software doesn't have to slow your systems down  stevey_d | 09/29/07
Stevey, Stevey, Stevey  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Many tails love to wag their dogs  Ole Man | 09/29/07
SharePoint is Corel Office (well for argument say it is so)  mighetto | 10/01/07
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I DID read your post, I think you're wrong. Repeating the same stuff over..  stevey_d | 10/01/07
To IT-Pro  mighetto | 10/02/07
Scarlett Johansson  Chippolus | 09/28/07
Now that's what I would call...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
I like the title...  starcannon@... | 09/28/07
"This may be the opportunity to force them to finally move on"  stevey_d | 09/29/07
Sometimes it is necessary  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Our Job is Industry Standards  mighetto | 10/01/07
Support is the other issue.  itpro_z | 10/01/07
the irony is that OOXML is lousy, and can't do anything compared to ODF  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Yes I would have the right  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Is there an IT department where you work?  itpro_z | 10/04/07
Every OS is a work in progress  Ole Man | 09/29/07
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Out of curiosity  alaniane@... | 09/30/07
So far...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
Thank you  alaniane@... | 09/30/07
Most of the ones complaining here had preformed opinions  Ole Man | 09/30/07
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While it's true that experience is valuable  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Interesting that you recognize the value of...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
I also counter those who are spreading fud, such as yourself  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Stop shouting, Ole Man  itpro_z | 09/30/07
Stop shouting?  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Just a note  laura.b | 10/01/07
Good point! Thanks!  Ole Man | 10/01/07
Microsoft Haters is no longer the problem.; there is real money in hacking  mighetto | 10/01/07
I hate to agree...  Chippolus | 09/28/07
It's just too expensive  houstonsbrown | 09/29/07
What networking was stripped?  itpro_z | 09/30/07
No, Vista just failed miserably...  Linux User 147560 | 09/27/07
Facts?  jmiller1978 | 09/28/07
Your last paragraph  Michael Kelly | 09/28/07
Such as?  ye | 09/28/07
Okay  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
All that can be done in Vista.  ye | 09/28/07
I doubt it, ye.  OButterball | 09/28/07
No it can't...  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
What do you mean by "abysmal failures"?  ye | 09/28/07
Yes it can. And I think you've contrived that example.  ye | 09/28/07
An abysmal failure is when ...  OButterball | 09/28/07
RE: All that can be done in Vista.  nwoodson@... | 09/28/07
You're referring to a bug and not an inherent...  ye | 09/28/07
Good to see we're in agreement.  ye | 09/28/07
Hey, ye, I can split that hair ...  OButterball | 09/28/07
It's not splitting hairs. They're two different things.  ye | 09/28/07
Do you have Klipper or I should say  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Inherent weakness? In what? Vista?  OButterball | 09/28/07
Vista rushed?  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
Perhaps you missed the part where I said:  ye | 09/28/07
So far no one has shown there isn't anything you can't...  ye | 09/28/07
Now, xuniL_z , I'll give ya that, in some cases ...  OButterball | 09/28/07
No it can't  zdnet@... | 09/28/07
Obutterball  xuniL_z | 09/29/07
Yes it can.  ye | 09/29/07
BULL  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/07
No, I have credibility  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
This says less about your OS's abilities  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
I run a Linux box and I still say BULL.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/07
Backup copy of several DB's - To: xuniL_z  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Also  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Well, I know I was able to do something similar in OS/2 in 1996.  nomoremicrosoft | 09/28/07
Windows is capable of it. Linux fanbois saying it's not doesn't...  ye | 09/29/07
You don't think? That's because you are  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/07
That's all find and dandy  xuniL_z | 09/30/07
That system is WAY underpowered to do what you described...  ye | 09/30/07
Sorry ye,  Linux User 147560 | 10/01/07
I accept that it can do what you say.  ye | 10/01/07
The world quakes . . .  critic-at-arms | 10/04/07
I can configure the OS  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
Perhaps you too missed the part where I said:  ye | 09/29/07
That's the point  alaniane@... | 09/29/07
No, that's not the point.  ye | 09/29/07
Wrong  alaniane@... | 09/29/07
No, it is you who are wrong.  ye | 09/29/07
The problem is that  alaniane@... | 09/29/07
No, the real problem is that you appear to be...  ye | 09/30/07
No the problem  alaniane@... | 09/30/07
No, the problem is you're confusing what Windows is...  ye | 10/01/07
You misunderstand  alaniane@... | 10/01/07
You're the one who is misunderstanding.  ye | 10/01/07
you win  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
Thank you.  BroGnorik | 09/28/07
Change "95" to "2000"...  wolf_z | 09/28/07
No 95 Was not a shell of DOS  BroGnorik | 09/28/07
HUH?  notlehs | 09/28/07
Not exactly...  jerryc@... | 09/28/07
WIN 95 was a  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
9x the hybrid os/shell  markdean | 09/28/07
omg retard  masterxtds | 09/28/07
not my unnderstanding  jjarman | 09/28/07
In other words an actual Operating System...  JCitizen | 10/02/07
No WIN 2000 did  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
RE: No WIN 2000 did  JCitizen | 10/02/07
Actually what made  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
uhh, What?  zdnet@... | 09/28/07
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
To make sure  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
Sorry but....  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
Ah, no, not quite correct  markdean | 09/29/07
True; I remember instructions on ME....  JCitizen | 10/02/07
Which files are you talking about?  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
The MSDOS  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
to alaniane  JCitizen | 10/02/07
to JCitizen  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
addendum  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
And before I get into trouble with Mac users  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
RE: addendum  JCitizen | 10/03/07
Then, what do you call it?  pgf_666@... | 10/03/07
morwens  morwen | 09/29/07
MS changes on the win9x line  markdean | 09/29/07
morwens  morwen | 10/05/07
After listening to several  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
I switched a "VISTA" laptop !  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
MEPIS  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
RE: After listening to several  nwoodson@... | 09/28/07
Not interested...  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
RE: Not interested...  nwoodson@... | 09/28/07
same here  reedjjjr | 09/28/07
Windows in a VMware  markdean | 09/29/07
First-hand experience is the only thing folks around here respect  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Facts?  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Typical fanboy...  jmiller1978 | 09/28/07
Typical fanboy...  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Learn a new OS ?  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
See comment above...  jmiller1978 | 09/28/07
But there are only 3  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Multimedia on Linux  jmiller1978 | 09/28/07
Hmm I don't own these items BUT  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Speaking of braggarts.  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
No brag just fact? grin (nt)  JCitizen | 10/08/07
I agree  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
drm a silly idea  pcguy777 | 09/28/07
DRM wasn't MSs idea  itpro_z | 09/29/07
DRM wasn't MSs idea  Ole Man | 09/29/07
re  pcguy777 | 10/04/07
I agree  APGRem308 | 09/28/07
Win2K Problems?  hubmanagement@... | 09/28/07
Facts? OK Here are some  CHaynes | 09/28/07
Just a little correction.....  devlin_X | 09/29/07
no Vista hasn't "sold" 60 million copies  stevey_d | 09/29/07
Don't blame Microsoft for everything  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Doesn't make sense  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Manufacturing 101  itpro_z | 09/29/07
The great apoligist has arrived  Ole Man | 09/30/07
OK, Ole Man  itpro_z | 09/30/07
we will continue this discussion  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Once again, Ole Man  itpro_z | 09/30/07
To itpro_z  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Poor, poor Ole Man  itpro_z | 09/30/07
Old Man might be poor  Ole Man | 09/30/07
IT Pro: Give up on Ole Man  ye | 10/01/07
"Microsoft can no longer force companies to bundle only their OS" why?  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Microsoft no longer uses variable OEM pricing.  ye | 10/02/07
Microsoft's PR spin has fizzled  Ole Man | 09/29/07
perhaps.....  Badgered | 10/02/07
Sold VS Installed and used.  mighetto | 10/01/07
Saying it doesn't make it true  Tiggster | 09/28/07
Take the blinders off and look beyond the  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
I don't disagree, but...  itpro_z | 09/28/07
Users may not be going to the  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Have you checked?  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Why so negative?  itpro_z | 09/30/07
Why so negative?  Ole Man | 09/30/07
And once again, Ole Man  itpro_z | 09/30/07
And once again, Ole Man  Ole Man | 09/30/07
That's better, Ole Man.  itpro_z | 09/30/07
That's better?  Ole Man | 10/01/07
If you call that a failure...  itpro_z | 09/28/07
you call that a failure...  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
Try reading my post before ranting.  itpro_z | 09/28/07
No, you're wrong  stevey_d | 09/29/07
I already addressed this issue  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Yes they can through variable pricing OEM contracts  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Nice logic  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
Only the Microsoft stalwarts I know like it  stevey_d | 09/29/07
Time is alread telling...  itpro_z | 09/29/07
phyicians that demanded Vista at hospital site  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Now perhaps you understand...  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Yes, now I understand  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Another display of ignorance of a subject. Prices at a hospital  xuniL_z | 09/30/07
Poor Zuny  Ole Man | 09/30/07
Give it a break, Xunil  itpro_z | 09/30/07
You think this is simple.  bkelly@... | 09/28/07
what's the marketshare of  royalstream | 09/28/07
...  inithell | 09/28/07
The beauty of  Linux User 147560 | 09/28/07
Vista is ordinary at best  ramnet@... | 09/28/07
That and...  Dave32265 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Jason Etheridge | 09/27/07
Sell the bridge twice  eebyaj | 09/28/07
Vista Changes not compelling enough to make the switch  D. T. Schmitz | 09/27/07
Some of us aren't satisfied with Good Enough!  itpro_z | 09/28/07
5 Years from now.. lets have this same discussion  pcguy777 | 09/28/07
Agreed.  itpro_z | 09/28/07
. . .and Vista isn't Good Enough  critic-at-arms | 10/04/07
How about posting again when you are serious  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
What? No NoAxe?  nizuse | 09/27/07
Give him time, remember he's a grandfather and  deaf_e_kate | 09/28/07
Aw, trying to ride my coat tails again little one?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/07
Stop whining...  nizuse | 09/29/07
It appears it is you whining, I didn't say anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/07
You tell 'em, few people are as obese as you!  B.O.F.H. | 09/29/07
Pathetic post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/07
I agree, No_Ax_to_Grind is a pathetic poster.  B.O.F.H. | 09/29/07
deftly played!!  rtk | 10/01/07
Actually...  John L. Ries | 09/28/07
I don't see the problem either  redtrain65 | 09/28/07
The devil you know  bmgoodman | 09/28/07
Windows XP  BroGnorik | 09/28/07
Bad comparison  bmgoodman | 09/28/07
VISTA BUY BUY BUY HARDWARE BUY BUY BUY... YOU MUS COMPLY  pcguy777 | 09/28/07
Re: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  3D0G | 09/28/07
Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good  bb1040 | 09/28/07
Actually...  3D0G | 09/28/07
Businesses are  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
True  itpro_z | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  rick roberts | 09/28/07
Neither: Both are Bloat from the Bloatfarm  Jeremy W | 09/28/07
yup, couldn't have said it better myself  pete_w_flynn@... | 09/28/07
Vista offers nothing...  bjbrock | 09/28/07
Enertia - and XP does enough  deaf_e_kate | 09/28/07
What's the point of going to Vista?  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Free is nice...  itpro_z | 09/28/07
Free is nice...  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Silly? I don't think so  NoMoss | 09/28/07
Did you say work?  RS9 | 09/28/07
Like you said...  itpro_z | 09/29/07
Don't forget DX10  NoMoss | 09/28/07
Win2k was the best  kcredden2 | 09/28/07
Dying  itpro_z | 09/28/07
Linux does show up  Fred Fredrickson | 09/28/07
I've see XP machines priced higher than Vista...  JCitizen | 09/28/07
True  itpro_z | 09/29/07
2 things  techboy_z | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  betelgeuse68 | 09/28/07
Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good  kstepub@... | 09/28/07
You Are A..  RS9 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  dfarrich@... | 09/28/07
Vista too problematic rather than XP too good  ejhonda | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  david@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  marketmaven | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  craig-wilson@... | 09/28/07
I'm still using Windows 2000 Professional...  GrizzledGeezer | 09/28/07
I'm still using Windows 2000 Professional...  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Vista vs XP  mark.rad@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  NSL | 09/28/07
Vista doesn't work very well!  kd5auq | 09/28/07
Simple fix for you kd5auq  mikeholli | 09/28/07
kd5auq  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
What Apple should have done.  ran6110 | 09/28/07
APPLE  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Both are true  rcfoulk@... | 09/28/07
Hold on here!  mikeholli | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  junquemail | 09/28/07
HEY NOW!  mikeholli | 09/28/07
One more  ohiomike | 09/28/07
Vista is the reason why I decided to try Ubunutu.  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
vista convinced me to switch too...but it is improving quickly  jjarman | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  homepc_2@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  BobFrankston | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  cwells@... | 09/28/07
It's about value  Chad_z | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  walton@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jurgen.manycolored@... | 09/28/07
Why should I switch?  jdonley@... | 09/28/07
Why should I switch?  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Nothing is ever "too good"!  rayted32 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  GeneBuettner | 09/28/07
Not unique to windows  Sxooter_z | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Baer | 09/28/07
Vista was a pain last Janurary  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
You tell us  RS9 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  1ceman | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  hubmanagement@... | 09/28/07
Just further proof that upgrading ain't fun anymore  alf@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
XP is like a marriage...  RandyM55 | 09/28/07
XP is like a marriage...  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
What are you saying?  RS9 | 09/28/07
52 Years?!  Whyaylooh | 09/28/07
XP is like a marriage...  Ole Man | 09/29/07
XP too good?  dfolk | 09/28/07
The cost of the upgrade  Hsbarney@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  hitchhiker49@... | 09/28/07
I've gone BACK to XP at work  SpiderTech | 09/28/07
Try this one in your test area  jackie40d@... | 09/28/07
Vista to XP upgrade!  songzunhuang | 09/28/07
I've Told All My Students  itanalyst | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  FtWrth | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  onclejon@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  shanedr | 09/28/07
Top 10 Reasons VISTA will not Die  cwells@... | 09/28/07
Top 10 Reasons VISTA will not Die  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Lesser of Two Evils  Washburns | 09/28/07
Microsofts own mouth to blame.  mike@... | 09/28/07
If Vista was a better OS...  John L. Ries | 09/28/07
You can say that again  Ole Man | 09/29/07
If all vendors  xuniL_z | 09/30/07
No market should operate under the premise of  Ole Man | 09/30/07
There you go again.  itpro_z | 10/01/07
The "we" you speak of  Ole Man | 10/01/07
Incompetant henchmen?  John L. Ries | 10/01/07
hardware is the key....  amj2006 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  frankcoleman@... | 09/28/07
Authenication is freaky  tonyfriendly@... | 09/28/07
Hey Frank  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Games  mental-break@... | 09/30/07
Not neccessarily  Ole Man | 09/30/07
I've read some interesting things about Vista.  aryu.limitless@... | 09/28/07
It's not that XP is great  John L. Ries | 09/28/07
XP is great  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jcr46385@... | 09/28/07
I miss Win98!  NoMoss | 09/28/07
Win98/NT4 were great (and still are)  DotNetPgmr | 09/28/07
Internet vulnerability only issue  NoMoss | 09/28/07
Windows Nt  alaniane@... | 09/28/07
Perhaps an old issue  itpro_z | 10/01/07
Add Win2K to that list.  itpro_z | 09/30/07
I still use  alaniane@... | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  grewcockd@... | 09/28/07
Good advice for those ...  mwagner@... | 09/28/07
The INTERESTING quote is ...  mwagner@... | 09/28/07
The INTERESTING quote is ...  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Add to that the fact...  itpro_z | 10/01/07
Criaglisted my Vista laptop  DotNetPgmr | 09/28/07
Now why would you...  John L. Ries | 09/28/07
There's a different angle to consider  NoCubes4Me | 09/28/07
No, but Vista is too BAD for MS' own good  critic-at-arms | 09/28/07
After listening to all the comments  jffktt@... | 09/28/07
I bought a new  Ole Man | 09/29/07
XP Too Good  Jaytmoon | 09/28/07
What is the pioint?  leeshor@... | 09/28/07
Emphasize: "the users will ignore it"  Resuna | 09/28/07
You're right, it's the Office thing!  gmack@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Reged | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  bob.martinez@... | 09/28/07
If it is too good, don't count on it lasting...  Media-Ted@... | 09/28/07
Apple OSX is the only OS that is "too good."  i8thecat | 09/28/07
Ha ha ha ha You're killing me... stop.  Chippolus | 09/28/07
Ha ha ha ha grow a brain cell.  i8thecat | 09/28/07
Oh my...  itpro_z | 10/01/07
When Vista went dark...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/07
I think you're right  John L. Ries | 09/28/07
Maybe they will rewrite it from the ground up and call it Hosta la Vista!!  JCitizen | 09/28/07
I'm sorry but you got your names wrong...  Media-Ted@... | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  edryd72@... | 09/28/07
No security updates.......no problems either  tlmkr7 | 09/28/07
NOT too good but ...  johnfenjackson@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  pjperkins@... | 09/28/07
Microsoft's own good?  aussieblnd@... | 09/28/07
Where exactly is linux?  xuniL_z | 09/28/07
A few Links. RE:Where exactly is linux?  starcannon@... | 09/28/07
Don't feed him  Ole Man | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  CWBillow | 09/28/07
M$ calculation off on more than excel  gurg13 | 09/28/07
The real case for XP over Vista  trainer_1@... | 09/28/07
Agreed  NoMoss | 09/28/07
The other side of that equation...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  TwangGuru | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  phatkat | 09/28/07
Why replace broken with broken...  alieninvader@... | 09/28/07
THE TOTALITARIAN STATE OF MICROSOFT  BALTHOR | 09/28/07
press it  nizuse | 09/28/07
BALTHOR lower case? No way! (nt) grin  JCitizen | 09/28/07
Uh...only his title was CAPS. Way to get attention.  nomoremicrosoft | 09/28/07
BALTHOR is as BALTHOR does...  JCitizen | 09/29/07
MS is used to paying fines  mystic100 | 09/30/07
Linux is the Answer  starcannon@... | 09/28/07
chicken and egg  nishanuradha@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  murp6566@... | 09/28/07
No WIN 7 Without WinFS  rvr001@... | 09/28/07
winFS is dead.  xuniL_z | 09/30/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  ju1ce | 09/28/07
XP is a mature OS  markdean | 09/28/07
"NEW" vs "NEW PROBLEMS"+"LEARNING CURVE"  info@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  radavid | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  access_nikita@... | 09/28/07
Audio Nightmare with Vista  dbrimlow | 09/28/07
The real world?  IslandBoy_77 | 09/28/07
This is becoming the prevalent view...  bjbrock | 09/28/07
OS X can go back ! can Vista ?  stakabo@... | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  sykandtyed | 09/28/07
This isn't the first time  astronomer | 09/28/07
And it won't be the last time!  mystic100 | 09/30/07
I Agree  warwick@... | 09/28/07
The role of the PC has changed  mystic100 | 09/30/07
No, it's that Vista is not the improvement it was supposed to be  jhencken | 09/28/07
Maybe...  djxjozy | 09/28/07
vista not all that better  nstuff | 09/28/07
Possible reason  Update victim | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  LKEEL | 09/28/07
Vista is not ready for prime time  TreeRip | 09/28/07
Remember Windows ME  Headspin | 09/28/07
Tired of learning  DonG43 | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Jack-Booted EULA | 09/28/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  peter_welsch@... | 09/28/07
What's wrong with people today  mental-break@... | 09/28/07
Who the heck do you all think you are fooling?  nomoremicrosoft | 09/28/07
All old folks aint Microsoft cronies  Ole Man | 09/29/07
Hye OldMan - no slight on you 'cuz I'm gettin' up there too!  nomoremicrosoft | 09/30/07
No offense taken  Ole Man | 09/30/07
OK, now that you two are done...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
The more civil approach is appreciated  Ole Man | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  asksigma6@... | 09/28/07
VISTA = M.E. DEJA VU  serbingood | 09/28/07
Upgrade double  DOSlover | 09/28/07
You can't build skyscrapers out of sand  cquirke | 09/29/07
HILARIOUS  mlindl | 09/29/07
Vista works fine  tbcass | 09/29/07
So you like the stealth updates?  Ole Man | 09/29/07
OOO! Your read another article!  itpro_z | 09/30/07
Your apologies (and BS) are lost on me  Ole Man | 10/01/07
Vista works fine for most of us.  itpro_z | 09/30/07
"most of us" = the microsoft apologist fanbois  stevey_d | 10/01/07
I'll be here, still running Vista.  itpro_z | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  tonnita | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  dave.quinones@... | 09/29/07
Similar where I work  Mike (not Cox) | 09/29/07
Vista, Windows, OSX and the world at large.  jjmcdonald7911@... | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Mike (not Cox) | 09/29/07
Winning an argument  firehound | 09/29/07
Linux?????  lwetzel | 09/29/07
Yes, Linux.  firehound | 09/29/07
That would be the  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/07
Actually, you were the one who started...  itpro_z | 09/30/07
umm  firehound | 10/01/07
Yes,  itpro_z | 10/01/07
Why is Vista so power hungry?  Randalllind | 09/29/07
The more the better.  itpro_z | 10/01/07
you missed the point  Randalllind | 10/03/07
What better way...  JCitizen | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jeffdickey | 09/29/07
No, it isn't. Microsoft short changed its value and...  Boomslang | 09/29/07
Money for Nothing (without chicks for free)  sterling_sound@... | 09/29/07
XP is not perfect  XweAponX | 09/29/07
Vista is a failure  dahlenu | 09/29/07
Vista is the best OS  qmlscycrajg | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  atari8bit@... | 09/29/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jbondjr@... | 09/30/07
But, why "upgrade"at all?  Walker Evans | 09/30/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Evisscerator | 09/30/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  ezrabm@... | 09/30/07
Why Upgrade?  kieckl@... | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  ONEstar | 10/01/07
60 millions copy solld in the first 6 months.  qmlscycrajg | 10/01/07
One of them came with my computer, which got erased and ubuntu put on  stevey_d | 10/01/07
Just curious...  itpro_z | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  wjgrimm | 10/01/07
Good? Works?  wjgrimm | 10/01/07
Linux and OS X are bug free?  ye | 10/01/07
Dream on!  Ole Man | 10/01/07
remind me  rtk | 10/01/07
Consider yourself reminded  Ole Man | 10/01/07
ahh, gotchya.  rtk | 10/03/07
Not a "ninja"  Ole Man | 10/04/07
Don't fret Ole man...  rtk | 10/04/07
Don't fret?  Ole Man | 10/04/07
Out of Date Argument?  chewrock@... | 10/01/07
XP Works Fine  chewrock@... | 10/01/07
Its too buggy  Been_Done_Before | 10/01/07
Truth is...TOO much flux in the industry  GeiselS@... | 10/01/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  rahcom | 10/01/07
The thing about Ubuntu is you can buy your MP3s on amazon, and you know...  stevey_d | 10/01/07
1 year ago, xp was awful. Now it's good?  johnmarshall@... | 10/01/07
You think vista is bad, just wait till the next OS.  kraterz | 10/01/07
As long as it doesn't touch my pickup truck  Ole Man | 10/01/07
Can you say "Windows ME" boys and girls???  dabronx | 10/01/07
Vista is much more than cosmetics  dcunning30@... | 10/03/07
many significant architectural improvements in Vista  Ole Man | 10/04/07
What are you talking about?  dcunning30@... | 10/26/07
The good the bad and the just plain ugly  browncat@... | 10/01/07
Relative Value  blarman_z | 10/02/07
It's not too good, it's good enough!  Dukhalion | 10/03/07
My own comparison  t.logan@... | 10/03/07
That's not enough infor  dcunning30@... | 10/03/07
when you give Vista what it wants, it'll outperform  Ole Man | 10/04/07
That's a nonsensical reply  dcunning30@... | 10/26/07
I would say more like 4 Gig of memory...  JCitizen | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  tymiles | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  tpculp@... | 10/03/07
Hard to replace something that's working fine.  jwschull@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  papajon_s | 10/03/07
Did Microsoft make XP (2) service pack too good .  Cadenk | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  shassouneh | 10/03/07
Vista makes better sense with today's hardware  dcunning30@... | 10/03/07
Fixed! Got a Dell with Ubuntu...Lovin' it!  mikifinaz1@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  rlescaille | 10/03/07
Guinea pig  brian.iller@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jimc52@... | 10/03/07
wowsa!  rlescaille | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jes1831 | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  willf@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  jes1831 | 10/03/07
My 7 year old Dual 533 G4 Mac is running Tiger  MacGeek2121 | 10/03/07
Clearly, Vista is lacking...  andyILM | 10/03/07
Vista is an option???  elt10@... | 10/03/07
Called a swap file  bfjudo@... | 10/03/07
Maybe not120 Gig but...  JCitizen | 10/04/07
Also solid state drives...  JCitizen | 10/27/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  atari8bit@... | 10/03/07
Sounds good, but...  elt10@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  rodley | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  mrdood_99205@... | 10/03/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  javier.fernandez@... | 10/04/07
Windows Vista  pdwarren | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  andywright | 10/04/07
win xp sp2  kjpe | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  dimitri.aguero@... | 10/04/07
XP too good? Nope. Vista is too bad!  SteveMak | 10/04/07
I agree, Vista has problems!  todd.payton@... | 10/04/07
there's no turning back now!  Ole Man | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  rwstarinsky@... | 10/04/07
Comments - You Betcha  leeshor@... | 10/04/07
XP too good?  ja4509 | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  lanibersch@... | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  drjimswan@... | 10/04/07
We waited how many years??  dkendig@... | 10/04/07
One of the better real assements I've read...  JCitizen | 10/05/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  carcollector | 10/04/07
Correction to my previous  carcollector | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  alfitz@... | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  stan@... | 10/04/07
IBM clone; good one!  JCitizen | 10/05/07
I get it.  itpro_z | 10/05/07
XP too good?  jimmccormick | 10/04/07
XP Too Good?  bobwinners | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  llhjr | 10/04/07
Re: Vista and Office 2007......  carlsf@... | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  geodesic@... | 10/04/07
Incompatibility with existing software/hardware  dymnd | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  cimac38@... | 10/04/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  r_monigold@... | 10/04/07
XP vs vista  daboogiemansass@... | 10/04/07
Responding to Customers Demands  globalpc | 10/05/07
XP is the best!  Crestview | 10/07/07
Is windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Wizardroger@... | 10/08/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  Alwayscheapest.com | 10/08/07
XP is good, but Vista needs more work  julie.gordon@... | 10/09/07
To xuniL_z  Cardhu | 10/10/07
old machine  lh4x4@... | 10/12/07
Maybe the problem is multicore CPUs...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
I'm satisfied and on dual core...  rtk | 10/13/07
Appreciate the rep; glad to see it is working for..  JCitizen | 10/15/07
Vista requires H/W capability not yet standard.  gcampoba@... | 10/15/07
Getting adequate support- XP and related  w_c_mead | 11/01/07
I feel your pain...  JCitizen | 11/02/07
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  giles_vwl@... | 06/15/08
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  giles_vwl@... | 06/15/08
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  hermanzoltan2000 | 03/18/09
RE: Is Windows XP too good for Microsoft's own good?  JakeZ | 04/03/09

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