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November 14th, 2007

OpenDocument Foundation folds. Will Microsoft benefit?

Posted by Mary Jo Foley @ 5:54 am

Categories: Corporate strategy, Google, Office, Office 2007, SharePoint Server

Tags: Benefit, Microsoft Corp., OpenDocument Format, OOXML, OpenDocument Format (ODF), Emerging Technologies, Mary Jo Foley

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The OpenDocument Foundation — a group whose name and charter would lead one to believe that it was backing the OpenDocument Format (ODF), but which ended up backing a different document format instead — has closed its doors.

OpenDocument Foundation folds. Will Microsoft benefit?Sam Hiser, a systems consultant who was Vice President & Director Business Affairs at the OpenDocument Foundation, confirmed that ODF is closing its doors in a blog post on November 13. Hiser and a number of the other OpenDocument Foundation backers earlier this year decided to throw their weight behind a Worldwide Web Consortium document standard, the Compound DOcument Format (CDF), and back away from ODF.

The OpenDocument Foundation, at one point, was one of the major critics of Microsoft’s attempt to get its ODF alternative, Office Open XML (OOXML), branded as an open standard. Microsoft lost its attempt earlier this year to get OOXML fast-tracked as an ISO standard. An ISO ballot-resolution meeting on OOXML is slated for February 2008.

IBM, Sun Microsystems, Google and other ODF backers are continuing in their campaign to fight OOXML. Microsoft is pushing for standards recognition for OOXML, in large part, so that Office 2007, which uses OOXML as its default file format, will qualify for lucrative government and commercial IT contracts that call for “open,” “standards-based” products. The pro-ODF camp is trying to thwart OOXML in the hopes of gaining more market share for StarOffice, OpenOffice, Google Docs & Spreadsheets and other products that compete with Microsoft Office. Office still has more than 90 percent of the Windows desktop-productivity-suite market.

There are some who think the OpenDocument Foundation’s passing won’t matter. But I maintain the public splintering of the ODF community is definitely creating confusion from which OOXML is likely to benefit.

What do you think: Will the OpenDocument Foundation’s death have any impact on OOXML’s future, one way or the other?

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Microsoft formats are far more likely to be readable in the future than those dedicated to Office suites with low sales and frequent changes of ownership and which attract little third-party softwa... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Freebird54 Posted on: 11/17/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Only freedom is the real loser  Ole Man | 11/14/07
you are too right (nt)  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Hmmm, FREEDOM to make a CHOICE is bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You've got to remember...  rapson | 11/14/07
One HUGE problem with your argument.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
And, no one can prevent them from needing to communicate with partners,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
I can't wait for the next general election ...  fr0thy | 11/15/07
Soon, NoAxe, you're going to be paying more...  Media-Ted@... | 11/15/07
because with proprietary standard its not a choice  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Argument overbroad  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
And if new softqware had to be written...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
What does all the conflabulation about an old format  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Make the assumption...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Who made this "a should-be thread"?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Yes, Microsoft could change Office to ODF...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
When everyone disagrees  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Or.......  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
well xunilz here a other solution  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
In other words, Quebec-French, it's good  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
Xunil_Z its all on wich side you site  Quebec-french | 11/15/07
You're basically right  maldain | 11/15/07
Since Microsoft  Update victim | 11/15/07
you are right  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
"open/free/no string attached standard"  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
its may be true but  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
We have the freedom to be peasants  fr0thy | 11/15/07
Picking nits with somebody else's statements  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Not really  Freebird54 | 11/17/07
Bzzzzt... Wrong again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
your dead worng on that  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Dude, your ranting is boring.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
well you just prouve a other point on what kind of people you are no ax  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Replying to your nonesense is pointless  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Once more old slow one...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This small group is not the ODF, and we do not really know what they are  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
You tell us  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/07
For a guy who talk as much as you do...  SpikeyMike | 11/14/07
He'll never get it, Mikey  Ole Man | 11/14/07
The loss comes from the  Update victim | 11/15/07
Free to choose what?  bcroner | 11/15/07
CDF? But, but, but  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Straw Donkey  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Not in the forums I seen  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You're not looking hard enough.  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Nope, just another MS bashing web site.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Right, anybody that has a problem with MS business practices is a "basher"  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
In the absence of counter-argument you bring out the insults again (NT)  odubtaig | 11/15/07
Axey is great at insults...  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
Yeah, but  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
When? (NT)  odubtaig | 11/15/07
Lost your dictionary, again, I see (if you ever had one)  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Don't whine to me becuase they want two standards  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, who is "they". This is not the ODF,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Spin, spin, spin...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The spin is that this is more than a small group. Do you have any evidence  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Ha ha, your prowess as a comedian  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Ok, I will give you the lesson you want.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Hopefully standards bodies do not, as you say, accept any #@$% thing. And,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
So what's the big deal about approving Microsoft format as a standard?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Doing Something  dstam | 11/14/07
Not 2 standards in the same area, no  putt1ck | 11/15/07
Like your opinions  DonRupertBitByte | 11/15/07
congratulations to Mary....  sj_z | 11/14/07
Don't blame it on Mary Jo, she is just reporting here. We can not just  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
LOL, the ODF folds like cards and  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, nothing folding here, just a small support group expressing their  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
No disagreement, just some thoughts  DannyO_0x98 | 11/14/07
I agree, CHOICE is a GOOD thing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Choice of office suites is good, but consumers to NOT want to chose the  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Three guys are ODF? You're dreamimg again!  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
Well, Microsoft wins this round. But, we still need to be looking into this  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
ROFL... Dude, your gonna pass out from  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You are the one trying to spin this for more than it is. This is a very  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Buwahahaha, why do they want more than one standard  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This is NOT the ODF, this is a tiny support group, and we cannot keep them  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
can not keep them from agreeing with No_Ax_to_Grind  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, this is NOT the ODF, this is just a small support group.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
And that group agrees with me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
And, this group is insignificant. We know you want to spin this as somthing  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Wow. ODFoundation folds  GuidingLight | 11/14/07
This organization used the ODF name, but they were just a little support  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
When you cut the head from the snake...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This organization was only a support group. Nothing more.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Keep telling yourself that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Keep telling yourself that this is more than just a small group expressing  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Credibility Lost  kyron.gustafson@... | 11/14/07
****-a-doodle-doo  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Oh my, what an adult post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The irony...  bmerc | 11/16/07
WHY ODF exists  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Funny how they dropped the mantra of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
ODF had the predicted weakness: ...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Great spin, Anton  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Questions, then.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Well, that is a whole other debate. Is ODF in fact complete enough to  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
ODF supporters recognize publicly...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
The question is whether or not is really has to be as complicated as OOXML,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Microsoft thought so.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
No, the standards people have to delve into the details. They can not just  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Why ask what Microsoft should be allowed to do?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Because Microsoft doesn't own this game.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Another great spin  Ole Man | 11/14/07
+1  gary.edwards | 11/16/07
Again, this is NOT the entire ODF community, ONLY a small supprt group.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Oh my, how the worm turns.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Multiple, not duplicate standard formats  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Keepo in mind DonnieBoy ranted for months  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The argument for a single document standard did NOT suddenly change. I am  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
So lets hear your rant against them  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
I really do not know this small group, nor do I know exactly what they are  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Yes, we could get into arguing about when multiple standards are good, and  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
With your intellect  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Either I'm not following you...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
And, these are all very interesting arguments. Is ODF complete enought to  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Just as I thought  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Embarrasingly for the OpenDocument Foundation  UserLand | 11/14/07
That is always the problem with a standard, its a boat anchor  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Actually...  UserLand | 11/14/07
Really, sothen show me  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Embarrasing indeed  Ole Man | 11/14/07
So much for United we Stand  nucrash | 11/14/07
Nobody got any messages, a small group expressing their opinion does not  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Hu huh, sorry but no one else buys it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Right you are little martian dude.  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Well, no matter how extreme ones views might be, you can almost always find  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Nope, you are intentionally wrong  TripleII | 11/14/07
No Facts strikes again!  SpikeyMike | 11/14/07
ODF is ISO/IEC 26300, OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  argosy1@... | 11/14/07
the fight must go on!  Linux Geek | 11/14/07
Go ahead, we all need a good laugh  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
which fight?  royalstream | 11/15/07
Three guys in a tub. Rub-a-dub-dub?  orcmid | 11/14/07
3 Guys drop ODF is the end of the world?  TripleII | 11/14/07
I mean, c'mon, a taped paper sign and a blog?  TripleII | 11/14/07
I call shenanigans!  Resuna | 11/14/07
In your dreams  Robert Kohlenberger | 11/14/07
Handing out huge bonus checks  Ole Man | 11/14/07
No  John Musbach | 11/14/07
which fight?  royalstream | 11/15/07
Open Document Format  aryu.limitless@... | 11/15/07
Only ONE standard??  archangel999 | 11/15/07
The myopia of the lunatic fringe  Ole Man | 11/15/07
Complete Baloney  archangel999 | 11/15/07
Your train left the track  Ole Man | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  rawright@... | 11/15/07
perfect example  rawright@... | 11/15/07
Sorry, Mary Jo, you're reading too much into this.  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  dragonjohn77070@... | 11/15/07
Senseless article  Mitch 74 | 11/15/07
Give me colors!  kidtree | 11/16/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  Master Guru | 11/16/07
Many tricks have been employed throughout history  Ole Man | 11/16/07

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