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October 20th, 2007

Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 7:12 am

Categories: General, Internet, Legal, business models, content, management, mass market, politics, telecom

Tags: BitTorrent, Boss, Comcast Corp., P2P, Internet, Cyberthreats, Internet Service Providers (ISPs), Spam, Peer To Peer (P2P), Security

In Focus » See more posts on: Net Neutrality

Spam from HormelIn all the words being written about Comcast’s violating net neutrality and throttling down BitTorrent, no one has pointed to their excuse.

Bandwidth. (To the right, a yummy pork shoulder and ham product from the good folks at Hormel.)

Many small ISPs, especially if they’re based on WiFi, routinely throttle down BitTorrent and other peer-to-peer applications. They have done so for years. Their bandwidth costs them real money, and the only way they say they can assure adequate speed to all is to minimize the movement of big files.

But what’s the biggest bandwidth hog out there? Spam. I use Comcast, and over 95% of what comes through my Internet connection each day is spam. Cleaning it out of my own Internet pipes with Mailwasher helps, but it’s like clearing out a sewer next to a construction project that lacks retaining fences. You have to do it all the time.

Very little is done about spam, but ISPs are very upset over people they label “bandwidth hogs” — users of peer-to-peer services who keep data flowing in-and-out all the time. This has led many to buy “traffic management boxes” from firms like Ellacoya, which use deep packet inspection to control what users do with their connections.

Comcast is merely one of the larger companies to deploy this kind of technology, but it’s an industry-wide trend. By inspecting what packets are doing inside a network, an ISP can decide which get through and which get stalled. They can, in other words, define the Internet to suit their business model, rather than have customers on either side of a connection define it to suit their needs.

Spam, which uses the same port as regular e-mail traffic, thus becomes the convenient excuse for eliminating the open Internet and creating a new, carrier-controlled network in which innovative services like Netflix Video on Demand can be killed, because they threaten cable’s business model of deciding what you can watch, and getting a rake-off on it.

The Internet, the dumb network, is dead. Meet the CorporateNet. The new boss is not the same as the old boss. And if they can kill BitTorrent, they can kill open source. All they need is an excuse.

Thus it’s no coincidence that the U.S. is no longer the technology king. Once people who control bottlenecks are able to throttle down change, and are given both legitimate (spam) and illegitimate (monopoly) reasons to do it, that’s the inevitable result.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. You can follow Dana on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Posted by: Cardhu Posted on: 10/30/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
What a bunch of misinformation  fatal1 | 10/20/07
Well, since most people access email via HTTP nowadays, I am not sure what  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Thanks for the concern trolling  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
Can you check the IP that his post came from? Maybe he is a Comcast Exec.  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
No Troll  Cornell Sam | 10/20/07
Spam is a HUGE problem for any ISP, and much larger than just letting  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Maybe even a (perceived) Troll may have a valid case?  InnocentBystander | 10/21/07
So, it's not true?  OmegaWolf747 | 10/20/07
He did not have an argument there, so, he had to attack Dana personally.  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Say what Mister FUD Meister !!! Dana is right about Comcast .  Intellihence | 10/20/07
Hey, FUD it not my middle name ...  MisterMiester | 10/22/07
AP tests Comcast's file-sharing filter  D. T. Schmitz | 10/20/07
FYI  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  bicard | 10/20/07
A few things  D. T. Schmitz | 10/20/07
Coming soon-Download limits  Madsmasher | 10/20/07
I don't have a particular problem with them charging extra for, or  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Oh, hooray!  OmegaWolf747 | 10/20/07
Well, for those of us that do NOT download music or pornography, we would  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  OmegaWolf747 | 10/20/07
It's not the RIAA  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  mblock@... | 10/20/07
Well, I don't know how Comcase could filter spam, that should be done by  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Comcast, BellSouth and Net Neutrality  mblock@... | 10/20/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  NetworkOpsAnalyst | 10/20/07
The only reason he brought up the spam was that it is a lot bigger problem  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Too True... SPAM is a huge problem!  D. T. Schmitz | 10/20/07
Throttling means control at the center  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
really?  marpibeach | 10/20/07
Vendors that hate their customers  w@... | 10/20/07
Vendors  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
Again, if you want to throttle ALL traffic for customers over the limiti of  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Throttling  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
throttle this.....  devlin_X | 10/21/07
In a previous post you said you were throttling BitTorrent. That is NEVER  DonnieBoy | 10/21/07
How do you know it's illegal?  John L. Ries | 10/24/07
If a customer is over his limit, you should throttle ALL traffic, not just  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Bandwidth is not the issue  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
And, therein lies the problem, ISPs are all selling bandwidth, with no  DonnieBoy | 10/21/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  NetworkOpsAnalyst | 10/20/07
Re: RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  none none | 10/20/07
Spam, bandwidth and your ISP...  NetworkOpsAnalyst | 10/20/07
Spam & Bandwidth  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
Again, it is OK to limit customers to the ammount stated on the contract!!  DonnieBoy | 10/20/07
Throttling  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
Do what we say and you won't get hurt...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
Difference  RuralWisp | 10/21/07
In the case of Comcast, they are targeting ALL P2P traffic, with no checks  DonnieBoy | 10/21/07
Sounds like you are throttling everybody and blaming it on the few abusers.  DonnieBoy | 10/21/07
Re: Spam & Bandwidth  none none | 10/20/07
Re: Spam & Bandwidth  none none | 10/20/07
Spam  RuralWisp | 10/21/07
Vote Yes! to throttle spam!  NetworkOpsAnalyst | 10/20/07
I have A Clue  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
Ahem*  NetworkOpsAnalyst | 10/20/07
Spam  RuralWisp | 10/20/07
The Connection  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/20/07
email spam  RuralWisp | 10/21/07
Let's get some things straight...  ahaveland | 10/21/07
Where we were  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/21/07
Absolutely plausible...  ahaveland | 10/21/07
Thak You  RuralWisp | 10/21/07
You're welcome...  ahaveland | 10/21/07
Quit talking about maximum download rates, that is NOT the problem, the  DonnieBoy | 10/21/07
Gee, what happened to that $200 billion then?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 10/21/07
Getting the shaft instead of the gold mine ...  MisterMiester | 10/22/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  BobKalk | 10/21/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  roo123 | 10/21/07
On a lighter note...  grinn.net | 10/23/07
from mdbobbo down under a different prospective  mdbobbo@... | 10/24/07
RE: Comcast, BitTorrent and spam spam spam  thx-1138_@... | 10/24/07
Spam and Gmail  BitBoat | 10/25/07
Monumental ignorance if you think spam accounts for most of the traffic  georgeou | 10/26/07
Just Repeating Over and Over "It's A Fact"  Cardhu | 10/30/07

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