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June 5th, 2008

Do we need two open source office suites?

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 9:22 am

Categories: Applications, FOSS, GPL, General, Google, mass market, publishing

Tags: IBM Corp., Current Open Office, OpenOffice, Word Processors, Open Source, Office Suites, Software, Dana Blankenhorn

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Update: More on this story (and the strikeouts) here.

The good people at IBM are proud that their IBM Lotus Symphony has hit Version 1.0.

You can download it from here. It’s free. There’s free online support, and a host of fee-based services if you prefer. There’s also a small business version of its collaboration product, dubbed IBM Lotus Foundations.

I should also add IBM has given a gloss of very nice marketing support to the launch. The graphics on the IBM Symphony are much more up-to-date than those on the OpenOffice.org site.

Yet my mind won’t kill that nagging question. Do we really need two open source office suites?

If this were a standard business competition the obvious answer would be yes. Preferably more than two. In business, monopoly is a climax state which leads to laziness, high prices, and poor performance.

But is that true in open source? If you don’t like a code base you can fork it. Any addition to the code base benefits every user. Open Office has gained enormous benefits from having many different sponsors.

I know from having lived this history that there are, in fact, the same number of office suites now as 20 years ago. The current Open Office is descended from Word Perfect. The great-grandparents of Symphony are Lotus 1-2-3 and the Ami word processor. Note: My bad. The current Open Office descends from Star Office, a product of Sun Microsystems, and not Word Perfect, which went to Corel.

Little of that code remains, but the rivalry does. Microsoft Office won the war, with the other two in a long-term fight for survival. Open Office saved WordPerfect. IBM inherited Symphony.

Isn’t it time to talk merger, for the sake of both sponsors and the user base? Would open source be stronger with one office suite or two?

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. You can follow Dana on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Do we need two open source office suites?
"Do we really need two open source office suites?

If this were a standard business competition the obvious answer would be yes. Preferably more than two. In business, monopoly is a climax state... (Read the rest)
Posted by: wizofvoz@... Posted on: 06/17/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
The nature of open source...  pjotr123 | 06/05/08
The more, the merrier  daengbo | 06/06/08
I am with you.  Sagax- | 06/15/08
Well, Actually, Pjotr - M$ Users Find Too Many Linux Flavors VERY Confusing  drprodny | 06/06/08
How is OOO descended from WordPerfect?  John L. Ries | 06/05/08
That Made Me Scratch My Head, Too  Whyaylooh | 06/05/08
Dana frequently gets his facts wrong and doesn't do research.  mb103 | 06/05/08
RE: Dana Frequently ...  super_J | 06/05/08
"You must be ..."  bmerc | 06/06/08
LOL - same thing came to my mind immediately  ItsTheBottomLine | 06/06/08
re:super_j and what do you call  ItsTheBottomLine | 06/06/08
Mr. Perfect, I presume?  Ole Man | 06/05/08
Here we go again.  xuniL_z | 06/05/08
First things first  Ole Man | 06/05/08
It's too late.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
What is really needed is a ZDNet disclaimer  bmerc | 06/06/08
@bmerc  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
Also.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
A little rationality?  Ole Man | 06/06/08
My bad...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
Your history  Reged | 06/06/08
Scott McNealy bought Star Office as a dig to MS  jorjitop | 06/06/08
I'm definitely using it...  JCitizen | 06/09/08
Is Symphony OpenSource?  atishparikh | 06/05/08
No it's not....  devlin_X | 06/06/08
Sorry, but it is....  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
Q: Do we need two open source office suites?  People | 06/05/08
I think Dana assumes that every change to OSS  Pliny the Elder | 06/05/08
Living in the world of "IF"  Ole Man | 06/05/08
My mistake. Let me reword that  Pliny the Elder | 06/05/08
"there are competing open source office suites"  Ole Man | 06/05/08
You get worse by the day.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
Why so specific?  bmerc | 06/06/08
Are you doing the Mr. Literal parody?  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
"Dana thinks one open source office suite is enough"  Ole Man | 06/06/08
I can understand your ranting and raving.  xuniL_z | 06/10/08
There is a serious flaw in your "statement" (being generous, here) Zuny  Ole Man | 06/10/08
This time you're so full of hot air you're up in the stratosphere  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
Are you sure you know where you are?  Ole Man | 06/09/08
You finally got it right.  xuniL_z | 06/10/08
Pliny the Elder, you have just met......  xuniL_z | 06/05/08
Should have been Pliny the Whiny  Ole Man | 06/05/08
The irony of you calling someone else "whiny" is  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
A bucket of holes...  levinson | 06/06/08
NOT a bucket with holes IN it.........  Ole Man | 06/06/08
Now you are repeating your "if* is childish rant?  xuniL_z | 06/05/08
Please don't worry about my data  Ole Man | 06/05/08
Your data? Oh you mean your collection of ...  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
Let's review!  bmerc | 06/06/08
@bmerc, you are also a psychic??  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
A true American?  Ole Man | 06/06/08
You haven't a clue.  xuniL_z | 06/10/08
"government control and treachery" go hand in hand  Ole Man | 06/10/08
This is about corporate strategy, not individuals  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
oo.org looks so much like Office '97 and is SO Slow.....  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  SwashbucklingCowboy | 06/05/08
Is this article a waste of good electrons?  Too-Tired Techie | 06/05/08
IBM's best interest  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
It doesn't matter...  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
Why do you nit-pick the difference  Ole Man | 06/09/08
Quite frankly...  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
Thank you John! I was not lecturing you  Ole Man | 06/10/08
You never see beyond your nose.  xuniL_z | 06/10/08
I certainly hope I couldn't  Ole Man | 06/10/08
Open office is descended from Star not Word Perfect  mike@... | 06/05/08
Many programs - but just one standard  bcarpent1228@... | 06/05/08
The more suites, the better!  SpikeyMike | 06/05/08
I agree..  mrdt | 06/05/08
And there's the beef!  Ole Man | 06/05/08
Symphony is from Microsoft? Someone tell IBM!  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
When a thought crosses some people's mind  Ole Man | 06/09/08
How is that different from, Microsoft for example?  xuniL_z | 06/05/08
In practice...  John L. Ries | 06/05/08
Certainly it's advantageous to users to have a common file format  Ole Man | 06/05/08
A philospher you are not.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
"making the Personal computer affordable...  bmerc | 06/06/08
Re-read my post sir.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
But we all know what you are, don't we?  Ole Man | 06/06/08
What you said is kind of misleading.  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
My point was...  John L. Ries | 06/06/08
But John, we were comparing here......  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
It seems to me that most Linux backers don't think about the average users?  Ole Man | 06/06/08
There is a learning curve to switch from Windows to Linux  User07734 | 06/05/08
that is no diffeent that saying  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
You do go on...  User07734 | 06/06/08
"You have as much work between Linux distros...  bmerc | 06/06/08
An interesting mix of great points and lame trolls  bmerc | 06/06/08
Who is talking about "short term" profits?  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
By that same reasoning...  John L. Ries | 06/06/08
In fact, the opposite is true  Ole Man | 06/06/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  Linux User 147560 | 06/05/08
What else can be done with dollars?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
Access as a what?  User07734 | 06/05/08
If going that route, might as go all the way and get  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
Only softies would even consider that!  User07734 | 06/06/08
In that case.....  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 06/06/08
Symphony is a derivative of OpenOffice  Gary Edwards | 06/05/08
Symphony is not open source  Marbux | 06/05/08
Actually it isn't GPL, not the same thing, necessarily  TtfnJohn | 06/09/08
Did you ever stop to think?  Ole Man | 06/09/08
Please -- everyone -- read the above  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
jumping to conclusions without doing research...  sj_z | 06/06/08
I wouldn't worry about it too much, Dana  Ole Man | 06/06/08
An apology to IE users  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/05/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 06/05/08
Always good to check  John L. Ries | 06/05/08
this is one of those things I'll never understand  chrome_slinky@... | 06/06/08
I did code to the standards  John L. Ries | 06/06/08
LOOK AND FEEL? Are you serious?  xuniL_z | 06/06/08
I don't think anyone here cares too much  Ole Man | 06/06/08
Wow, you are raving lately.  xuniL_z | 06/10/08
Your attempted insults certainly demonstrate  Ole Man | 06/10/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  Steven Rosenberg | 06/05/08
I like variety and competition :-]  devlin_X | 06/05/08
Two?  dave.leigh@... | 06/05/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  troutsoup | 06/06/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  lostinspace | 06/06/08
Yes!  weazbo | 06/06/08
DARN RIGHT WE DO! RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  twaynesdomain | 06/06/08
Yes,  zclayton2 | 06/06/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  Shayd | 06/06/08
CHOICES are always Good! BUT ....  blc1839 | 06/06/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  atari8bit@... | 06/06/08
NO, no future Grey Flannle Suite or 'Rose Bud'  rtirman37@... | 06/06/08
Since there is no...  levinson | 06/06/08
RE: Before Windows  vgibson@... | 06/06/08
Lotus or WordPerfect should've open source earlier  maxtheitpro | 06/06/08
Two? You meant three, right?  mbabuskov | 06/06/08
Actually YES, we need EXACTLY two open source products  timothyt@... | 06/06/08
Competition would be good!  Sinbad713 | 06/07/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  sidney.schultz@... | 06/07/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 06/07/08
We need many alternatives  CaptOska | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  serenitylodge@... | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  znmeb | 06/09/08
Depends on what is offered  wsamuel3 | 06/09/08
RE: Depends on what is offered  icetnet | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  icetnet | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  Selabkram | 06/09/08
Should a country grow one strain of corn for all its fuel needs?  softwareFlunky | 06/09/08
No - we need more wink  Mitch 74 | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  mwagner@... | 06/09/08
The word "is" (as Clinton used it) is no longer the most confusing word  Ole Man | 06/09/08
Sure...let's all have proprietary document formats!  TtfnJohn | 06/10/08
We probably need a couple more...  mikifinaz1@... | 06/09/08
RE: Do we need two open source office suites?  wizofvoz@... | 06/17/08

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