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July 17th, 2008

Open source should support Apple over Psystar

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 2:08 pm

Categories: Apple, BSD, GPL, General, Government, Legal, Software Licensing

Tags: GPL, EULA, Apple Inc., Principles, Open Source, Dana Blankenhorn

Psystar logoI have been wracking my brain all day for an angle on this Apple-Psystar story (great work by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes) and I can’t come up with one.

Save this. Open source should be supporting Apple here.

Think about it. What is at the heart of open source? Contracts. The BSD and GPL licenses are contracts, which people freely enter into before they agree to download. Apple’s EULA is the same sort of thing.

Sure, the Apple EULA is nasty and green and yucky, while the open source licenses are juicyful and filled with deliciousness.

Apple licenses tie you down and are written in a way that would have Einstein tearing his hair out. Open source licenses give you freedom and are written in a language called English unknown to most lawyers.

But if a company can ignore an Apple EULA, another company can ignore the GPL. Isn’t that what folks like Harold Welte at GPL Violations are fighting so hard for, the recognition of software contracts as legitimate?

To those who like to stick it to proprietary outfits — and Apple is the most proprietary outfit there is – this may stand as an inconvenient principle. But it is a principle.

Principles are only worthwhile when they are applied consistently. Otherwise they are mere flags of convenience.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. You can follow Dana on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Another option would be for them
to open source it then they wouldn't have to bear the brunt of the R&D. I'm not sure if they have a copy of Quicktimes that they sell or not; I know they have a free copy for Windows which I rarely use and definitely don't keep on my machine.... (Read the rest)
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You're off  rpmyers1 | 07/17/08
Way off  Richard Flude | 07/17/08
EULA = Doublespeak  rpmyers1 | 07/17/08
Can we just say  Len Rooney | 07/17/08
Yes We Can  DannyO_0x98 | 07/18/08
Marshmallows  Len Rooney | 07/19/08
The EULA does take away rights...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/17/08
Did they agree?  rpmyers1 | 07/17/08
That's not true  laura.b | 07/18/08
There it is  Len Rooney | 07/18/08
Confusion and Misunderstanding  daengbo | 07/21/08
What the hell are you smoking?  laura.b | 07/21/08
A License grants rights and withholds others  Marcos El Malo | 07/18/08
On second thought . . .  Marcos El Malo | 07/18/08
Actually it doesn't *restrict* hardware usage  wolf_z | 07/20/08
There's always an implied license  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Option nunber 3 - You challenge the validity of said contract.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/19/08
Actually  Richard Flude | 07/19/08
Wrong  daengbo | 07/21/08
Wrong  Mectron | 07/17/08
The Devil?  aj.redmond@... | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  xxyl | 07/17/08
In reality  daengbo | 07/18/08
This is way off base, Dana.  BrucePerens | 07/17/08
I am be wrong...  zkiwi | 07/17/08
You're right  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/17/08
Having someone say...  zkiwi | 07/17/08
They don't have to declare the license  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
That *IS* reverse engineering  rpmyers1 | 07/17/08
Really?  zkiwi | 07/17/08
Thanks for responding  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/17/08
Apple did choose....  mrlinux | 07/18/08
Not really since the BSD license  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
OSX is not an OS - it is an interface built on FreeBSD  chuck@... | 07/18/08
The FreeBSD license is NOT the GPL (NT)  Update victim | 07/18/08
Also see the light  tBuggR | 07/18/08
Apples EULA...  mrlinux | 07/18/08
Except for the fact that you would open  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
IBM sued and lost  daengbo | 07/21/08
Finally the voice of reason  kitko | 07/17/08
But  daengbo | 07/18/08
GPL is not much better  Duke E. Love | 07/17/08
License terms and contracts are choices  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/17/08
WHAT?  Duke E. Love | 07/17/08
Choices?  aj.redmond@... | 07/18/08
Iraq?  Marcos El Malo | 07/18/08
Dana, Dana, Dana  People | 07/18/08
Could you be more explicit?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
Just misinformed  aj.redmond@... | 07/18/08
Go back to IBM's introduction of the PC.  Ken_z | 07/18/08
I seriously doubt that IBM, HP  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Not necessarily  exolon | 07/19/08
It's simple  daengbo | 07/18/08
Beautifully argued  Kaiwai | 07/17/08
Erm..  zkiwi | 07/18/08
Na  Kaiwai | 07/18/08
Raised but escaped, but considering a return...  zkiwi | 07/18/08
Nice to hear from the All Blacks  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
*ahem*  zkiwi | 07/18/08
Whatever. It's a beautiful country  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
Nelson  Len Rooney | 07/18/08
Seems logical to me  People | 07/18/08
When will Apple Support Open Source?!  shawn_dude | 07/18/08
One question...  zkiwi | 07/18/08
A bit more than trivial  Stuka | 07/18/08
Another option would be for them  alaniane@... | 07/29/08
Apple does support OSS.  People | 07/18/08
eula yeah right  ggossett001 | 07/18/08
May I suggest...  Stuka | 07/18/08
That's not the way the law works  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
And if everyone thought and did like you  People | 07/18/08
Use your brain, mate  aj.redmond@... | 07/18/08
iTunes on Linux  stevejg61 | 07/18/08
The real argument there isn't with Apple  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  ebudae@... | 07/18/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  freygr | 07/18/08
Maybe not  John L. Ries | 07/18/08
I think the big question is how enforceable an unsigned contract is  Michael Kelly | 07/18/08
Software is already classed as a literary work  wolf_z | 07/20/08
We are better than you!  Narg | 07/18/08
Timothy S. Vernor vs. Autodesk ??? Erosion of the EULA  kyron.gustafson@... | 07/18/08
Thanks for presenting that Kyron  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
I'm Confused Dana  aj.redmond@... | 07/18/08
No about turn here  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/19/08
Or, EULAs need to be discarded entirely.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/08
Just curious  Michael Kelly | 07/18/08
Niether  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/19/08
Not fighting for principle  C0MM3NT | 07/18/08
Wow.  People | 07/18/08
EULAs and GPL are different beasts  Marcos El Malo | 07/18/08
Dana, if I couldn't see your picture,  People | 07/18/08
Over 30?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
Bull  wizardb@... | 07/18/08
Isn't that allowed under the BSD?  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/18/08
There it is --mispost  Len Rooney | 07/18/08
Open Source can't support Apple  tracy anne | 07/18/08
So how important is Psystar now?  Ken_z | 07/18/08
Ah, another "Pystar is a scam" post  wolf_z | 07/20/08
Well...  Spiritusindomit@... | 07/18/08
Hating Apple Won't Sell More Linux  g15host | 07/18/08
Two points  John L. Ries | 07/19/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  Graham Ellison | 07/19/08
Almost agree  John L. Ries | 07/19/08
The principle  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 07/19/08
No, they don't.  wolf_z | 07/20/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  russell@... | 07/20/08
RE: Open source should support Apple over Psystar  C0MM3NT | 07/21/08

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