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May 13th, 2009

Open source shrugs at EU liability plans

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 7:28 am

Categories: General, Government, Legal, politics, publishing

Tags: Software, Lawyer, Clue, Tools & Techniques, Open Source, Management, Dana Blankenhorn

Open source writers who are also market players, like our Matt Asay and Infoworld’s Savio Rodrigues, are dumping on a European Commission (EC) proposal to make software sellers liable for the problems in their code, just as dishwasher makers are liable for problems.

The EC should be careful to avoid hurting the software industry, and minimizing its benefits

Is the above quote from Steve Ballmer? From Larry Ellison? Nope, it’s Matt, threatening to go Galt at the first sign of a lawyer letter.

That’s crazy talk, is his argument. Everyone knows software can’t be made foolproof. It’s in every Microsoft EULA.

(Ayn Rand was writing bad prose a generation before Dan Brown thought of it. Atlas Shrugs, from which the idea of “going Galt” originates, is available at Amazon.com.)

But there are already software makers being held liable in this way. The Clue is in my first paragraph. If the software in your dishwasher goes kerblooey and causes your home to flood, the dishwasher maker can’t just say “software problem” and walk away.

Software, embedded in hardware, is already subject to liability law.

Bruce Schneier notes that open source code, when given away, gets a pass on this. It’s only open source companies, like Red Hat (and Alfresco) that will need liability insurance. Just as CBS, which owns ZDNet, has liability insurance against what Katie Couric might say.

This does not satisfy Matt. He doesn’t like being held liable for mistakes. We’ve all gotten along very well without lawyers poking around our broken code. This is what happens “when bureaucrats, not common sense, rule.”

Maybe. But this is also happens when industries grow up, and become vital to the general economy.

Lawyers and insurance companies have been dealing with liability issues for centuries. I’m sure they’ll say that if your customer sees what they have gotten, and can fix what they have gotten, you’ve got better legal defenses than when they haven’t and can’t.

The advantage in this, in other words, goes to open source.

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. You can follow Dana on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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What is software supposed to do anyway?
The absolute killer problem with this is that the current get-out in the EULA is to state that software is not represented as fit for any particular purpose. The proposed law would have to make this ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: jamesej Posted on: 06/11/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
I've said it before  Linux Geek | 05/13/09
And you are still wrong  honeymonster | 05/13/09
Maybe the EC will clarify...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
The Devil is in the details...  solyom@... | 05/14/09
Eeek! We agree  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
No  Linux User 147560 | 05/13/09
RE: Open source shrugs at EU liability plans  cdaffara@... | 05/13/09
When Red Hat is sued into oblivion  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/13/09
Clearly there no "PASS" in this  dragon@... | 05/13/09
Baseless suits are baseless  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
Court costs yes. Atty fees no.  DirtyDingus | 05/13/09
However...  zkiwi | 05/13/09
It's a silly idea  buzzl | 05/13/09
Maybe you will  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
Not really -- a cartel implies conspiracy  buzzl | 05/13/09
Anyone who doesn't...  fairportfan | 05/13/09
No cartel. Just much more expensive in EC.  Bruizer | 05/13/09
No they wont  Aussie_Troll | 05/13/09
Software prices will go up substantially  buzzl | 05/13/09
Here's a thought...  wolf_z | 05/13/09
If software is like anything else...  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
Who would sue an open source contributor?  zdnet-gregc | 05/13/09
So which proprietary vendors have done this and succeeded?  otaddy | 05/13/09
So what your saying is FOSS is not good enough  Aussie_Troll | 05/14/09
RE: Open source shrugs at EU liability plans  HooNoze | 05/13/09
We will have to see  DanaBlankenhornZDNet Moderator | 05/13/09
Europe is becoming more litigious..unfortunately  otaddy | 05/13/09
Again: It's not about reliability  Aussie_Troll | 05/13/09
Gee -- wonder where they got THAT idea from...  Marty R. Milette | 05/13/09
Is that Ayn Rand book cover some sort of cheap advertisement?  HypnoToad72 | 05/13/09
Nuts, but right about some things  otaddy | 05/13/09
"Free" products are subject...  fairportfan | 05/13/09
Absolutely correct  otaddy | 05/13/09
RE: Open source shrugs at EU liability plans  Dickie wheeler | 05/14/09
Loss only - including loss of life ?  Aussie_Troll | 05/14/09
The only beneficiaries will be the lawyers and their clients...  Marty R. Milette | 05/15/09
People build lots of things, they are still liable  Aussie_Troll | 05/15/09
Nanny nations...  Marty R. Milette | 05/15/09
Typical Hack's rant  Aussie_Troll | 05/16/09
Thanks for the compliment!  Marty R. Milette | 05/17/09
Ive lived my entire life and income writing correct code  Aussie_Troll | 05/17/09
It must be nice..  Marty R. Milette | 05/17/09
Made thousands of errors  Aussie_Troll | 05/17/09
Since 1988 and before, 20 years ago !! before FOSS  Aussie_Troll | 05/17/09
FLOSS numbers are better  shis-ka-bob | 06/01/09
RE: Open source shrugs at EU liability plans  ncoldengineer | 06/01/09
NO  Aussie_Troll | 06/02/09
What is software supposed to do anyway?  jamesej | 06/11/09

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