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August 28th, 2005

OSDL says no to Microsoft

Posted by Joe Brockmeier @ 6:34 pm

Categories: General, Linux, Linux Server OS, Strategy

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The report of a meeting between OSDL and Microsoft has raised a few eyebrows this week. To recap, Microsoft’s Martin Taylor and OSDL’s CEO Stuart Cohen met at Linux World Conference & Expo. Taylor proposed that Microsoft and OSDL do a joint research project for a study of Linux and Windows.

The eWeek report notes that OSDL had only confirmed discussing the idea with Taylor, but not a final response from OSDL. After reading the eWeek story, I couldn’t think of any reason why OSDL should participate — and, for some reason, kept thinking about the fable of the frog and scorpion — but I was curious whether OSDL was giving it serious consideration.

On Friday, I had a chance to have a short talk with Cohen, and got a definitive answer. Cohen said that "there is no way we would do a joint research project with Microsoft." If OSDL were to participate in such a project, Cohen said that when the report came out, no matter what the broad outcome of the report was, anything negative about Linux would be exploited for marketing purposes by Microsoft.

Setting aside the marketing implications, Cohen also stressed that "no one is clamoring for" OSDL to do a market research paper with Microsoft. (Other than, I suppose, Microsoft…) OSDL does commission white papers and studies from time to time, when it makes sense to do so for their member organizations — but "nobody’s been asking" for OSDL to produce a research project like what Taylor proposed.

It’s also worth noting that Cohen’s conversation with Taylor was supposed to be off the record, and that he was surprised to see it turn up in the press a short while later. 

Just because OSDL is not interested in Taylor’s proposal for a marketing research project, it’s not to say that OSDL is unwilling to work with Microsoft. Cohen mentioned security and interoperability as areas where OSDL and Microsoft might be able to find common ground to work together, and as areas where the market would be interested in seeing OSDL and Microsoft working together.

And that’s the crux of it. Microsoft seems to be interested in churning out more marketing materials — and trying to get OSDL to participate in order to give those materials more legitimacy with the general public, because they’re not buying Microsoft’s "Get the Facts" campaign. At the very least, Microsoft wants to look interested in working with OSDL so it can stop looking like the bad guy.

OSDL, its member companies and their customers, on the other hand, are interested in doing what it takes to make it easier to manage environments with Linux and Microsoft products. If that means cooperating with Microsoft on interoperability, for example, then it’s in the best interest of its member companies and the companies and organizations that actually are using Linux. If it’s just churning out some marketing material, then it’s not really doing any real good — and could do some harm, by providing fodder for another one-sided "Get the Facts" type campaign from Microsoft.

Nobody needs another "study" from Microsoft about Linux. What organizations need is some real cooperation from Microsoft on interoperability with Linux and open source products. We’ve had enough marketing.

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Nonesense
This whole discussion is asinine. As if one who produces FREE software to anyone who wants it would be interested in participating in a test against a proprietary secretive organization that charges a... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Ole Man Posted on: 09/25/06 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
interoperability big issue for me  dwjunix | 08/28/05
...even if MS paid for it all...  Jiim_z | 08/28/05
its pretty obvious OSDL knows  zzz1234567890 | 08/28/05
You've already bought MS's marketing message  fj_z | 08/29/05
so there is no more a reason for FUD allegations on Microsoft  zzz1234567890 | 08/29/05
what poor reporting by Joe Brockmeier  BrutalTruth | 08/28/05
Well, this is a BLOG  thetargos | 08/28/05
its a blog, I have no credibility and so I write what I like  zzz1234567890 | 08/29/05
to straighten out a line of thought..  thirtyeast | 08/28/05
and you my friend are a lost cause  zzz1234567890 | 08/29/05
Jim Allchin to present video evidence  jesusbits2@... | 08/29/05
And how do you know that  zzz1234567890 | 08/29/05
A convicted abusive monopolist never lies  jesusbits2@... | 08/29/05
What point in verification?  Khym Chanur | 08/29/05
If M$ really wanted to  Roger Ramjet | 08/29/05
cooperation on interoperability  tprince@... | 08/29/05
Why wouldn't Mr. Cohen agree?  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: Why wouldn't Mr. Cohen agree?  none none | 08/29/05
The average CEO stays for 5 years.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Turn the way back machine to several years in the past  Sabz5150 | 08/29/05
Put your glasses back on, Mr. Peabody.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Sorry, it's MS who is afraid of test results..  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
OSDL does provide white papers...  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: OSDL does provide white papers...  none none | 08/29/05
Red herring.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: Red herring.  none none | 08/29/05
Then maybe that should be Microsoft's offer.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: Then maybe that should be Microsoft's offer.  none none | 08/29/05
Now the third party is the problem.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Hey none none, stop smoking weed  zzz1234567890 | 08/29/05
Past Actions are the Best Indicator of Future Actions.  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
Re: Sorry, it's MS who is afraid of test results..  none none | 08/29/05
A disinterested test is possible.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: A disinterested test is possible.  none none | 08/29/05
Perhaps Microsoft hopes to see...  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Re: Perhaps Microsoft hopes to see...  none none | 08/29/05
Well that is another reason...  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Not true  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
Microsoft proposed an equal partnership.  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
Short answer  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/29/05
Too short  Anton Philidor | 08/29/05
whose flexibility??  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
Dream state?  Khym Chanur | 08/29/05
Wait a minute.  Yen_z | 08/29/05
Excellent!! n/t  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
You make absolutely NO sense  QuietAmerican | 08/29/05
MS is the preventing factor, NOT the enabling  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
Huh?  QuietAmerican | 08/29/05
Linux - Get The Facts..  thirtyeast | 08/29/05
Oh how the cowardly run.....  Scrat | 08/30/05
Wrong way round:  Scrat | 08/30/05
Nonesense  Ole Man | 09/25/06

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