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June 2nd, 2009

Sorry Linux but the chicken came first

Posted by Dana Blankenhorn @ 9:05 pm

Categories: Events, General, Government, Hardware, Linux Desktop OS, Linux Laptop, Microsoft, Not Linux, mass market

Tags: Booth, Phone, Smart Phone, Chicken, Linux, Smart Phones, UNIX, Operating Systems, Open Source, Software

In the old question of which came first, the chicken or the egg, I got the answer this week, at least as it relates to computing.

The chicken came first.

I started my day on a hunt for Linux, preferably desktop Linux. 

It was depressing. It’s not just Asus and MSI who have gone Windows in Taiwan, it’s everyone. The Microsoft booth dominates in a corner of the show floor. Instead of bragging on what they have done, they are pushing embedded systems for games and home servers. They are pushing outward, not defending their turf but attacking.

I visited the SUSE Linux booth, the only obvious Linux presence on the main floor. Where is my penguin, I asked. Where is the gear running Linux?

Intel has some, I was told. So I went to the Intel booth. After some shrugs and shaken heads, I was taken to a bank of three monitors showing network applications, under Linux. All were behind glass. You could look but you better not touch.

I wandered over to AMD. AMD dressed girls in high boots and short skirts. They are still showing what is known here as “fighting spirit.” Certainly they would be fighting for the penguin.

Where is Linux, I asked. I was pointed to a corner of the booth, where an AMD embedded system was shown, naked, running Ubuntu. But not for the office. This is an OEM product, I was told. Next to it stood the application. A slot machine, apparently developed for the Macau market.

Later, at a press conference sponsored by TAITRA, the Taiwan trade authority, I asked executive director Walter Yeh (third from left in this picture) about where the Linux went.

He passed the question to Li Chang (to the right in the picture), vice president of the Taipei Computer Association.

Chang mentioned a press conference yesterday where Google announced an Android phone to be made by Acer. But then he put it to me straight.

“In our association we operate as a consortium, like the open source consortium. They want to promote open source and Linux. But if you begin from the PC you are afraid of Microsoft. They try to go to the smart phone or PDA to start again.”

Taiwanese OEMs would love an alternative to Windows, but the sale comes first, before production. The chicken comes first. And since the chicken belongs to Microsoft, the penguin is helpless here.

After the press conference I wandered over to the Acer booth. I was looking for that smart phone. They have smart phones in the Acer booth. All of them run Windows mobile. The Google smart phone is not yet available for display. (I took this picture before I learned the phone shown is Windows.)

I don’t know if my response could be translated.

“Cluck,” I said,

Dana BlankenhornDana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983. You can follow Dana on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Rich  macadam | 06/03/09
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And I take issue with these  UAC nanny screen | 06/03/09
Points  ITLeader | 06/03/09
Points  UAC nanny screen | 06/03/09
And you are entitled to lamely disagree but  macadam | 06/03/09
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@NoThomas  Axsimulate | 06/03/09
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kinda  NoThomas | 06/03/09
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Yes, the troll name fits you to a T  UAC nanny screen | 06/03/09
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deleted by poster (NT)  devlin_X | 06/03/09
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I know some is possible  slade37 | 06/12/09
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really .....  Aussie_linux_user | 06/03/09
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People has no choice, as  Jxn | 06/24/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  shoshonski | 06/03/09
re:RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  n0neXn0ne | 06/03/09
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Darvinism?  The_Quietman | 06/03/09
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Ask ShadeTree...  kozmcrae | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  muzza2005 | 06/03/09
that show is not representative for Linux  Linux Geek | 06/03/09
Been hearing that line for 15 years.  jmiller1978 | 06/03/09
Heard it before...  kozmcrae | 06/03/09
Heard it before...  n0neXn0ne | 06/03/09
15 years? I don't think so...  Jxn | 06/24/09
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Actually  macadam | 06/03/09
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Money talks  davidr69 | 06/03/09
It's not a chicken problem.  kozmcrae | 06/03/09
lol  macadam | 06/03/09
Exactly the point I made earlier  jmiller1978 | 06/03/09
Not exactly the same thing.  kozmcrae | 06/03/09
Thanks for a good explanaition  Jxn | 06/24/09
Exactly the point you made earlier, and still you are wrong  Jxn | 06/24/09
So....  JoeMama_z | 06/03/09
Yes  Jxn | 06/24/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  PlayFair | 06/03/09
Re: RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  Jxn | 06/24/09
Microsoft is giving Windows for free  obvio.capitao@... | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  PlayFair | 06/03/09
Re: RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  Jxn | 06/24/09
Are you really there?  zlgtr | 06/03/09
And not one of those is a first-tier ...  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
Hardware vendors and OS's  lordshipmayhem | 06/03/09
You cannot create user demand out of thin air.  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
The average Joe Schmoe doesn't care what OS is on there  UAC nanny screen | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
You are right  Mighty_BOFH | 06/06/09
@ AnythingButVista  macadam | 06/03/09
Well, have a good day grin  UAC nanny screen | 06/03/09
Because it's FREE  The_Quietman | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  The_Quietman | 06/03/09
re: ...  n0neXn0ne | 06/03/09
I'll check it out the_quietman. [NT]  kozmcrae | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  dataodo@... | 06/03/09
dinasours laid eggs  Aussie_Troll | 06/04/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  Baldain | 06/03/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  lange256 | 06/06/09
Linux computers available : Ubuntu for netbooks  binstock@... | 06/12/09
Quid Pro Quo or Bribery?  reedmb@... | 06/12/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  webservant2003@... | 06/12/09
Re:Till it can run...  webservant2003@... | 06/12/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  Bilmekanikeren | 06/12/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  tuxidriver | 06/20/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  alpha1beta | 06/20/09
People must be given information  lad.koc | 06/21/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  jfreedle2@... | 06/22/09
RE: Sorry Linux but the chicken came first  MadByte | 06/22/09
Microsoft's money is the problem.  as901 | 06/23/09
Microsoft is Maleware.  as901 | 06/23/09
I disagree  kb1493 | 06/23/09
Maybe Female Ware?  FiOS-Dave | 07/13/09
WAA-HA-HA-HA, FUNNY STORY!  ep-man | 06/24/09
Sorry, strictly for Linux users  FiOS-Dave | 07/13/09

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