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June 2nd, 2009

Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac

Posted by Jason Perlow @ 3:32 pm

Categories: Apple, Business, Desktop, Personal Technology, Server, Web Technology

Tags: Software, Steve Jobs, Apple Macintosh, PC, Apple Inc., Next Computer, Canon Inc., David Morgenstern, Fanboy Template Let, Andrew

I’ve often been asked why I don’t own a Mac. The answer is simple, and yet complex, and requires a trip down memory lane (artwork by Spidermonkey)

David Morgenstern’s column last week about Psystar’s imminent demise and his accompanying “Good Riddance” commentary struck a particular sour chord with me that reeked of the typical dismissive Mac fanboyism and “Not invented here” mentality which has plagued the company for decades.

While I enjoy David Morgenstern’s work and I think he is a great guy, and a talented and knowledgeable writer about all things Apple, the tone of his piece brushed me in such a way that it took me an entire week to formulate a response, the process of which caused me to contemplate the very reasons why I often find myself at odds with Apple and its fans.

People have often characterized me as an “Apple hater”  but this is actually a simplistic assessment of what I feel about the company and its products, since arguably my entire history with personal computing began with Apple.

Do you really want to enter the deepest parts of the Perlow psyche? Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

The Fanboy Template

Let’s flash back with the shimmer effect to late November of 1981.  Ronald Reagan was about to finish his first year in office. For my 13th birthday, and as part of my Bar-Mitzvah money, I was allowed to purchase a brand new Apple II+ PC, a beauty of a machine with dual floppy disks, 48K of RAM, 80 Column and CP/M cards, phosphor-green CRT display, with 300 baud Hayes SmartModem.

At the time, the machine was the state of the art, and I chose it because the kids in my upper middle-class suburban neighborhood of Great Neck, New York were all getting them, as were the local libraries.  I got several years of use out of the system, as well as having accumulated huge amounts of software via “trading” (we didn’t call it “Piracy” back then, we just went over to each others houses and copied floppies with Locksmith and played Dungeons and Dragons) and later on even traded up to a Apple IIc, a more “compact” and lower cost version of the unit.

The Apple ][ series had the distinction of being the last personal computer that Steve Wozniak (the true technical brains behind early Apple Computer) was responsible for engineering. After a near fatal airplane crash in February of 1981, Wozniak spent his time recovering from amnesia and getting his college degree. He didn’t return to Apple for another two years, but by that time, he was completely out of the loop on any product development and his presence at the company was largely symbolic and motivational.

In 1984, Apple released the Macintosh. By this time, my interests had gravitated towards the IBM PC-XT and its MS-DOS clones, such as the Tandon and the Leading Edge, which my father had purchased to run his dental practice downstairs, and I wanted to learn software that actual businesses were now using, such as Lotus 123, WordStar, dBase, and Harvard Graphics. My Apple IIc, while still useful, was showing its age. 1984 is also the year I came in contact with my first Mac Fanboy, my first cousin Andrew.

I remember the moment vividly. I was 15 or 16 years old, and was visiting my Aunt and Uncle at their home in New Rochelle, New York, and Andrew, several years my senior, was boasting about his new Macintosh, which had only recently been released.

Andrew at the time was in his second or third year of college, and he beckoned me up to his room upstairs to show the machine off to me, trying to appeal to my fellow geekishness. The thing was tiny, with an integrated CPU and tiny monitor, and it had a GUI, which was the state-of-the-art at the time. It had 128K of memory, versus the 384K on my cranked out PC. But it came with a word processing program, Mac Write, as well as a simplistic painting program, Mac Paint.

While I don’t recall the exact wording of the conversation that Andrew and I had, it sounded something like this:

Andy: “Look Jason, I painted a picture of the loft I’m going to build in my dorm room! With the mouse! And it’s so small, I can bring the whole thing in one bag to school with me, it’s portable! Try that on your dad’s stupid PC! Steve Jobs is a genius!”

Jason: “Yeah but it can it run Lotus 123 or WordStar? Can you go onto CompuServe or BBSes with it?”

Andy: “Who cares? This thing is so cool!”

Jason: “Enjoy. I’ll stick with my keyboard, character mode graphics and PC-XT.”

Cousin Andy grew up to be a very nice, smart and successful guy and went into educational publishing. He got married and had a couple of kids, and is now a venture capitalist. But at that time, when I was 15 or 16, I just remember him as my know-it-all older first cousin. Andrew, I love you man, but you are responsible for creating the master template for my complete distaste for Mac Fanboyism and my eventual disassociation from anything Apple. Sorry.

As far as I know, both Andy and his younger brother, Scott, who went into advertising, still use Macs.

The Structural Reinforcement

Flash forward to 1988. I’m in my first year of college at American University, in Washington DC. The year is particularly memorable because it was the same year that Steve Jobs introduced the NeXT, his answer and arrogant retort to the company which he founded that ousted him two years earlier.

American University turned out to be one of the first pilot schools to test the NeXT computer. It had a brand-new advanced computer lab that was built underneath a newly constructed dormitory (partially paid for by Saudi Sheik and Iran-Contra arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi) and virtually nobody knew anything about the new lab or the weird, new NeXT machines that were down there. I ended up spending a lot of quality time with them because the main computer lab with the PCs in the student center was always busy and you could never get any time on them.

So I poured through the NeXTStep documentation and became an expert on the early NeXTCubes and was able to apply my skills from working for a XENIX/Altos system integrator during summers at home in Queens that I was able to learn the Mach-UNIX based OS on the Cube fairly easily. I became so accustomed to their use and the technology that the local sales rep who frequented that lab to show the machines off to prospective customers in Washington, DC area used to have me talk to them about the system’s capabilities.

NeXT, of course, turned out to be a total bust. The $6,500 graphical UNIX workstation that was targeted towards higher education was a technical marvel, but nobody in their right mind, let alone college students could actually afford one.

My experience with the NeXT Cube is where I first began to truly understand the simultaneous brilliance (for surrounding himself with technical geniuses to do his engineering for him) and arrogance of Steve Jobs (for having a penchant for creating expensive toys few people can actually afford). Apparently, over $400.00 of the system’s cost came from the unique magnesium alloy casing created by frog design, which was reportedly chosen as the system’s housing because it matched the stereo system in Jobs’ house and it “Just looked cool.” If this didn’t set a precedent for a behavioral pattern that would follow for over two decades, I don’t know what did.

I didn’t fully appreciate Jobs’ arrogance until 1993, when I went to work at Canon as a software engineer. Canon was one of the original investors in NeXT. Various sources on the web indicate that the Japanese electronics giant invested around $140M in the company, but I was told by various executives at the time that the debt that NeXT had owed to Canon had exceeded the several of hundreds of millions of dollars range, because Canon was the manufacturer for the unique Magneto-Optical drive unit in the NeXTCube and also produced the LBP-LX  printer engine for the NeXT laser printer.

As a partial debt settlement, Canon was supposed to take possession of NeXT’s manufacturing plant in California in order to produce PowerPC-based Windows NT systems, but the deal with Jobs fell through. NeXT, instead of going bankrupt, laid off 300 of its staff of 540 people, keeping only its essential core of engineers, and went into a software partnership with Sun, Canon and Hewlett-Packard and produced a version of NeXTStep for Intel 486 and several other chip architectures, such as the Sun SPARC.

This software, although boasting a highly advanced, object-oriented software development platform yet again turned out to be a complete commercial failure because it was priced very high (Do we see a pattern evolving here?) and the RAM and disk requirements for running it on PC hardware at the time were very, very steep. NextStep was also ported to run independent of the operating system as the OpenStep developer environment on Windows NT, Solaris and HP/UX, but it was horribly expensive ($1500) and saw little commercial interest. Today, a re-implementation of OpenStep lives on as the Open Source project GNUstep.

In 1995 NeXT did have one very impressive piece of software which had tremendous commercial potential, the beta release of WebObjects, which ran on Windows NT or NeXT machines and allowed you to build dynamic, object-oriented web sites. Compared to Cold Fusion and other Web development tools at the time, it was state of the art. At the time, I was put in charge of developing Canon’s initial Web presence, and I thought it would be cool to have the software to develop our prototype with. As I understand, when the Japanese head of IT for Canon USA asked NeXT if we could have a site license, they asked us to pay for it, and he blew his top. After all, the company owed us a LOT of money.

NeXT, of course, was saved from oblivion by a failing Apple (that was under the stewardship of Gil Amelio) which needed a next-generation operating system to revive the Mac platform. Jobs’ triumphant return to Apple, and NextStep’s transformation into Mac OS X of course is history, but whenever I am asked why I have such a rod up my rear end about Steve Jobs and Apple, I remember the proud and honorable Japanese electronics company that was completely screwed over by the ultimate snake oil salesman and techno-huckster.

The Present Day: The Song Remains The Same

So now you know why I have a massive distrust for Steve Jobs and his flock. Based on their prior track record, I’m convinced they are fully capable of screwing their partners and their developers, not to mention their customers and early adopters.

But back to why I’ll never own a Mac, and why I think Morgenstern and his characteristically Apple fanboy epithets about Mac clones need a dose of reality orientation.

After my praise for the Apple Airport Express, I got a number of lengthy emails about why I’m prejudiced about the company’s products and how “obviously having never used Apple products before” I was unable to comprehend the Mac’s and Apple’s greatness. Oh believe me, I fully comprehend the greatness, which like on the classic Macs, and the Apple II before it, was created on the shoulders of software and hardware engineering geniuses like Avie Tevanian, who pioneered the development of NextStep, OpenStep and Mac OS X, and left the company in 2006.  Not turtleneck-wearing snake oil salesmen like Steve Jobs. If anything, Jobs and his fixation on keeping everything in the Mac proprietary and locked-down has been an obstruction to the Mac and Apple from taking over the entire Personal Computing industry. Don’t believe me? Just ask Bill Gates or Steve Ballmer. They seem to have done a pretty good job of picking up the ball that Apple and Steve Jobs dropped in exchange for their Insane Greatness.

So why won’t I own a Mac? Well, for starters, I’m a systems integration expert by profession — as in what I do that pays my day to day bills –- and the systems that I work with and architect are based on Windows as well as Mid-range/Enterprise platforms like Linux, VMWare, UNIX and mainframes.

The Mac, for all its Insane Greatness and cool factor, as well as having all the DNA to make it an enterprise platform, doesn’t get a lot of traction in large enterprises, so there isn’t a lot of motivation for me to own a system which has no bearing on stuff that I work with to make a living. Additionally, most of the off-the-shelf tools which I work with that I need to do my job -– Microsoft Office, Visio and Microsoft Project are all Windows applications.  Indeed, you can get Office for Mac, and you can even dual boot a Mac into Windows, but what would be the point? Why not just buy a PC?

Why would I incur a large personal expense on a Mac for home use when my laptop is corporate managed and issued to me as a company asset, and when all our line of business systems are Web and Java-based? If anything, I want my personal assets to be compatible with what I work with. And if I am going to use an alternative platform to Windows as either a desktop or a server, I’ll use Linux, because it has a huge library of Open Source software. Mac can use Open Source software too, but why bother if I can buy a commodity PC which I can purchase for a fraction of the cost?

Reality Orientation for Mactards

This gets us to Morgenstern and his poorly considered comments about a lousy economy saving us from “Clone Crap”. Really? He really thinks that a lousy economy is going to save Apple from cloning? He really thinks that the demise of some tiny upstart in Florida that overextended itself on loans is the end of the road for people who want inexpensive solutions which run on Mac OS when Apple won’t give it to them?

First of all, if anything, the economy is going to DRIVE us into more Mac clones. Particularly in countries like China, Russia and South Korea where Apple’s legal reach is going to be minimal. But there’s another reason why the economy is going to facilitate Mac Cloning, which is the sheer effect of the consolidation of vendors and manufacturers of the commodity parts that go into personal computers.

You see, with a crappy economy, a whole bunch of parts manufacturers are going to fail, or find themselves acquired by larger manufacturers with ample cash to absorb them. Where we used to have a dozen or more companies in each category making graphics chips, I/O bridges and bus controllers for Intel and AMD processors, and all the other support electronics that goes into PCs, Notebooks and Laptops, you’ll maybe have a handful. This effect will be further exacerbated by highly consolidated chipsets which companies like Intel and AMD will release in order to minimize the amount of components that go onto a mainboard –- like on Atom-based netbooks.

The net effect of this means that after the great supplier and manufacturer purge, there will only be a few basic reference designs for building systems, and the hardware variation between PCs will be minimal, allowing the Hackintosh community to focus on a much smaller set of hardware to support with their special kernels and boot loaders. You know how easy it is to get Mac OS X running on a Dell netbook now? Within the next year, every new PC released to the market will be a Mac OS X Hackintosh candidate, with little or no technical expertise necessary in order to install it with Apple’s OS. Originally, I thought that on-chip virtualization on every PC would be the disruptive technology to cause Mac Cloning to explode like a hydrogen bomb. Little did I know that economy, not technology, would be the disruptive force to do it.

Arrogance and wishful thinking on the part of Apple and its rabid fan base will not stop Mac clones. But it will certainly stop me from buying a computer with an Apple logo on it.

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Jason PerlowJason Perlow is a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M
...wait a minute!!! you mean.... arrogance is *not* a virtue?

Holy crap!

Has anyone told Steve Ballmer????

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Actually  davebarnes | 06/03/09
3 Macs in 4 years...  Chippolus | 06/03/09
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Don't take an exception for the rule.  bwchato | 06/03/09
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no you can't!  aka-none | 08/09/09
Arrogance is never a virtue  alaniane@... | 06/04/09
Apple - Overpriced and Proprietary  jpr75_z | 06/02/09
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You speak of Microsoft, not Apple.  HypnoToad72 | 06/03/09
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Hardware..  Jkirk3279 | 06/10/09
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and also incorrect  CeraJim | 06/03/09
apple  bwchato | 06/03/09
ermmm  desamuelson | 06/03/09
I don't get the commercials  stano360 | 06/03/09
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True...  Chippolus | 06/03/09
Partly true  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
apple  bwchato | 06/03/09
FUD  CeraJim | 06/03/09
I view it more the other way around  NonZealot | 06/03/09
Talk about FUD  Chippolus | 06/03/09
Good comments  CeraJim | 06/03/09
some people feel the need to tell everyone...  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
proprietary - yes, over priced - No  aka-none | 08/09/09
have you actually looked at the pricetags?  jedidethfreak | 09/05/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  urbandk | 06/02/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  calcmandan | 06/02/09
Yeah, but...  rag@... | 06/03/09
Arrogance Is Not a Virtue?  Mac Hosehead | 06/02/09
Even the mini is not a cost-effective choice ...  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
It's only half the cost of the vibrating chair...(nt)  Mac Hosehead | 06/03/09
Vibrating Chair  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
Arrogance  Mac Hosehead | 06/03/09
NNTO: In the same form factor and power requirements?  aka-none | 08/09/09
Er, some people just USE the machine without buying into the religion  mikataur | 06/02/09
I agree  afarrand2@... | 06/03/09
Granted, most people do not turn it into ...  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
Amen brother! Oh wait...  Mercutio_Viz | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  condelirios | 06/02/09
That cracks me up too!  stano360 | 06/03/09
They'd work if they booted Windows or *nix. (nt)  djchandler | 06/05/09
actually...  druid627@... | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Mrwirez | 06/02/09
re: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  LandonAB | 06/02/09
Amazing. So what.  someitguy79 | 06/02/09
Great post.  Cayble | 06/02/09
Thank you and bingo  someitguy79 | 06/03/09
Risk for one OS or another is more a matter ...  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
The truth is go to Linux if you must  stano360 | 06/03/09
Try installing ubuntu.  agohige | 06/03/09
See your level headed, but the article was not for you.nt  fr0thy2. | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  DannyO_0x98 | 06/02/09
Wider is better  davebarnes | 06/02/09
"I thought Morgenstern was over the line with his glee in "  fr0thy2. | 06/03/09
When you know so little, everyone must appear arrogant  Richard Flude | 06/02/09
Again nonsense.  Cayble | 06/02/09
The same if you ignore the differences  Richard Flude | 06/02/09
Tier II CAN produce quality on the cheap  wolf_z | 06/03/09
OT: Powerspec  big red one | 06/03/09
If you looked on the right side of the where to buy  alaniane@... | 06/04/09
They've changed the lineup  big red one | 06/05/09
Franken-Mac? Why?  hulse_kevin | 06/02/09
GUI  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/02/09
Your own link says Apple  Richard Flude | 06/02/09
Apple used the Xerox interface as a starting point...  msalzberg | 06/02/09
I don't understand your post  Richard Flude | 06/02/09
Actually, Apple did NOT invent the GUI ...  mwagner@... | 06/02/09
Why would you do that?  NonZealot | 06/02/09
Why would you do that?  big red one | 06/03/09
Everyone had color before the Mac  stano360 | 06/03/09
BeOS  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
Xerox PARC did not invent the GUI  Richard Flude | 06/02/09
Rewriting history as well Richard  tonymcs@... | 06/03/09
Ripoff  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
There's a difference...  jedidethfreak | 09/05/09
less that he's rewriting history than he is putting too much emphasis on it  Snark Shark | 06/05/09
And Microsoft did not invent MS-DOS  neil.morris | 06/04/09
Ok, but arguably  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/04/09
MS-DOS was a ripoff of CP/M  NJSteveK | 06/05/09
Not realy  jdbukis@... | 06/06/09
Now there's a Mac fanboi  tonymcs@... | 06/03/09
Arrogance. Nuff Said?  Mr_Smiff | 07/27/09
I started on Apple too  NonZealot | 06/02/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sengkoui | 06/02/09
actually, walking into a mac store...  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
and that never happens at best buy?  CeraJim | 06/03/09
No idea.  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
So ask them to get off the machine  aka-none | 08/09/09
Funny you should ask that  NonZealot | 06/03/09
There were plenty of available Macs the last time  mustangj36@... | 06/03/09
LOL!!! Nice one!!! (nt)  NonZealot | 06/03/09
Every mac in the store?  CeraJim | 06/03/09
I didn't say it was every one, but it was more than half.  mustangj36@... | 06/03/09
Interesting.  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
Yes, blame the user.  NonZealot | 06/03/09
uh, it's not about users.  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
Uh, it IS about users  NonZealot | 06/03/09
So YOU'RE blaming the user?  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
Again you imply that OS X is perfect  NonZealot | 06/03/09
Hmm, maybe you did it! wink  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
Nah, I'm not that talented  NonZealot | 06/03/09
Pranksters  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
dumb people  CeraJim | 06/03/09
Quick, who is Charlie Miller?  NonZealot | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  hulse_kevin | 06/02/09
Funny you say that  NonZealot | 06/02/09
Jason most Mac users aren't jerks  tech_walker | 06/02/09
Just like  Michael Kelly | 06/03/09
Just no reason to switch.  CobraA1 | 06/02/09
If you knew what your computer was doing, you'd think twice...  HypnoToad72 | 06/03/09
oh, so you want vista?  desamuelson | 06/03/09
The real enemy  johnfenjackson@... | 06/03/09
Boutique  pjotr123 | 06/03/09
I agree  hiraghm@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  dheady@... | 06/03/09
RE: "system has no bearing on stuff that I work with to make a living."  mnpundit | 06/03/09
Disappointed in Jason  bahamude | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Loverock Davidson | 06/03/09
Mac price  big red one | 06/03/09
Case...  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
That's still overpriced.  jedidethfreak | 09/05/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  mikey1977 | 06/03/09
Ok, so Jason has proved he is a poor decision maker...  Stuka | 06/03/09
So in other words  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
Does he ever? wink (nt)  JLHenry | 06/03/09
Re: Ok, so Jason has proved he is a poor decision maker  sproutky | 06/03/09
speaking of spelling...  moviedemon | 06/03/09
lotus 123 the "defacto standard" ? for attorneys anyway nt  desamuelson | 06/03/09
Bashing the corporations  whisperycat | 06/03/09
What a baby.  CowLauncher | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  clayasbury@... | 06/03/09
If you put half this much effort in writing all your articles...  Spiritusindomit@... | 06/03/09
Half the effort?  agohige | 06/03/09
Arrogance irony  BElias73 | 06/03/09
Second ...  ron.connal@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  frankz00 | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  gary859 | 06/03/09
Ahh comeon....  CrashPad | 06/05/09
Riiiiiight, it's the Mac users that are arrogant...  comp_indiana | 06/03/09
So many things to comment on  hiraghm@... | 06/03/09
Nice sour grapes  hammeroftruth | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sfriedrich | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  kvolkan | 06/03/09
Arrogant but not very usable  sorange@... | 06/03/09
are you aware....  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
I'm sure  Jkirk3279 | 06/10/09
Get over yourself  williamevans@... | 06/03/09
Sick of the Mac vs PC Stuff... It's about personal preference!!  dhorn92 | 06/03/09
Your Walk down a "cracked" Memory Lane  brian-cross@... | 06/03/09
RE: Another screed  vikingnyc@... | 06/03/09
Amiga  hiraghm@... | 06/03/09
Ouch this will hurt a lot of "Mactards" as you called them...  fr0thy2. | 06/03/09
Similar history  felixmk | 06/03/09
agree with history  onepersonsopinion@... | 06/03/09
Hooray for Apple and Steve Jobs!  hiraghm@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  jnoel@... | 06/03/09
Try your luck in vegas instead  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
Which Type?  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
As I Define It  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/04/09
Fifty percent of college students???  mwagner@... | 06/03/09
The future belongs to the Mac?  NonZealot | 06/03/09
And you just made his point  desamuelson | 06/03/09
Memory lane  mark16_15@... | 06/03/09
I'm glad that you have an opinion.  Phillip North | 06/03/09
The obvious reply to Jason is...  zkiwi | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  gjsherr | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  larissa860 | 06/03/09
Do Mac owners care?  Ken_z | 06/03/09
Considering how often they post on PC blogs, the answer is YES!  NonZealot | 06/03/09
you care  desamuelson | 06/03/09
If it's about the size of one's willy, I'll be right over w/ a tape measure  HypnoToad72 | 06/04/09
I felt the same, but my iphone is fiendishly converting me  aklsdjfhaklsdfh | 06/03/09
You're an extremist  markbn | 06/03/09
Media Content Creation  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
Media doesn't = Macs  moviedemon | 06/03/09
It was just an example  markbn | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  MSITOK | 06/03/09
What a total load of crap  CeraJim | 06/03/09
We need your insightful and refreshingly biased articles.  softwareFlunky | 06/03/09
Bias  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
So...  zkiwi | 06/03/09
I'm quite happy  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/04/09
No...  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sharrestom@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Naryan | 06/03/09
Here Here. Thank you !  Daedalu | 06/03/09
arrogance is a barrier  thinklady | 06/03/09
Lowest Values?  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
Why I will never buy a Ferrari  arodriguez@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  ecr@... | 06/03/09
So, if you want to have a job.....  skieaskhell@... | 06/03/09
You should be PC in the Apple commercials.  pixelblot | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful  Punch Card Paul | 06/03/09
Yep. I'm satisfied.  seanferd | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  macdonalds | 06/03/09
Screwing partners? Ever hear of Microsoft?  HollywoodDog | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Mabrick | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  jebarne@... | 06/03/09
whatever!  pairof9s | 06/03/09
re: What a total load of crap  djzoey | 06/03/09
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 06/03/09
ah yeah  CeraJim | 06/03/09
Master Joe Says...Again  MasterJoe | 06/03/09
Have you ever heard of paragraphs?  Dustoff6 | 09/08/09
I don't get it  mr_lizard13 | 06/03/09
Get this, then  john.lemme@... | 06/03/09
you dont read blogs here?  desamuelson | 06/03/09
@Jason Perlow  Axsimulate | 06/03/09
I got a lot of that in the 1990s  lostarchitect | 06/03/09
Atari 800  djchandler | 06/03/09
Atari 800  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
@jperlow  Axsimulate | 06/04/09
Atari  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  mcsservices | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jh7468@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  wtfk | 06/03/09
Absolutely right on target!  jscott418 | 06/03/09
Not even close  CeraJim | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Mercat | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  leewv@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  RepTechlic | 06/03/09
Speaking of arrogance...  nfordzdn | 06/03/09
Amen  leewv@... | 06/03/09
Quality.  bricar2 | 06/03/09
RE: What?  john_gillespie@... | 06/03/09
it's just a bad business model  ca1ic0cat | 06/03/09
Stole it?  CeraJim | 06/03/09
Oh, really!  wtfk | 06/03/09
Well put! (nt)  NonZealot | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  massieblock1995 | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  phatkat | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  agohige | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Sirgwain | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  mark7604@... | 06/03/09
OS/2  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
OS/2 also had the single system input queue, which led to a lot of 'crashes  HypnoToad72 | 06/04/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  agohige | 06/03/09
Experiences Dictate Preference  WarhavenSC | 06/03/09
Typical Bill Gates Stratagy  mark7604@... | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sonhenjz | 06/03/09
Technical issues secondary  deanders | 06/03/09
?  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  engy | 06/03/09
Whine... whine... whine...  LeeC | 06/03/09
Good point  sonhenjz | 06/03/09
Excellent Article Jason Perlow!!!  Kromaethius | 06/03/09
1985-1994  CeraJim | 06/03/09
Congratulations Jason  j.m.galvin | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  kamandi_z | 06/03/09
Arrogance Is a Virtue When It's Earned  jbelkin | 06/03/09
Ferrari and Porsche?  NonZealot | 06/03/09
Hats off to Jason Perlow  no_zd_user_name | 06/03/09
You'd never purchase a Mac. Why?  trolleater | 06/03/09
That is an 'elitist' mindset and you unfortunately are part of why  no_zd_user_name | 06/04/09
No, I can just put my money where my mouth is.  trolleater | 06/04/09
Choice  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  apier | 06/03/09
This article is pure hypocrisy  grail@... | 06/03/09
Not to pick nits, but...  Dr. John | 06/03/09
Corrected  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sonhenjz | 06/03/09
Sour grapes  jorjitop | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  cjc82s | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  ejirak@... | 06/03/09
Back in early 80's Apple's just FRIED floppy disks!  Gradius2 | 06/03/09
Yes...  Jkirk3279 | 06/10/09
excellent summary  jiagebusen | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  dasprem@... | 06/03/09
I said...  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  tj243025@... | 06/03/09
A nice little earner  tonymcs@... | 06/03/09
Let's try again please...  trolleater | 06/03/09
Oh deary deary me!  Graham Ellison | 06/03/09
Thank you...  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/03/09
And you don't even understand sarcasm.  Bruizer | 06/04/09
No, thank you!  Graham Ellison | 06/04/09
You are soooooo cool, Graham! (nt)  djchandler | 06/04/09
Im a geek, I like to fiddle and build computers  zeke123 | 06/03/09
Interesting Journey, Jason  melekali | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Charles Szasz | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Charles Szasz | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  CoglinIT | 06/03/09
Hope you feel better  MC_z | 06/03/09
Well, there are other reasons...like?  mikifinaz1@... | 06/03/09
Never Again!  Cosmo54 | 06/03/09
Parting ways  Chiatzu | 06/04/09
Apple stuff is far too hard to repair too  melaniehaber | 06/03/09
You just have to know where to look.  lostarchitect | 06/04/09
So true.  djchandler | 06/04/09
Repair Strategy  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
aluminum 17" G4 1.5 GHz model 1085  melaniehaber | 06/05/09
!!!!!  Jkirk3279 | 06/11/09
Thanks for the link.  melaniehaber | 06/13/09
Agree..  pochinator | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  director@... | 06/03/09
Because...  Jkirk3279 | 06/10/09
Bad time at school as a kid?  Old Long Time IT Guy | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  m_jurrens | 06/03/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  peripo | 06/04/09
A Voice of Reason  lundp@... | 06/04/09
Reader Frenzy  Jkirk3279 | 06/04/09
Awesome Article...couldn't have said it better  GeiselS@... | 06/04/09
Makes perfect sense  KWRussell | 06/04/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jkey | 06/04/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Bradd_young@... | 06/04/09
The simple reason I don't have a Mac  alaniane@... | 06/04/09
How much money and time have you invested in  HypnoToad72 | 06/04/09
PC Maintenance and Cost of Ownership  m_jurrens | 06/04/09
Next to nil  jdbukis@... | 06/06/09
Arrogance is not a virtue but neither are sour grapes....  jojoleb@... | 06/04/09
asdf  kentuckyfried | 06/19/09
I just can't justify the higher price!  Jeff Hayes | 06/05/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  SimonUK2 | 06/07/09
Journalism  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 06/07/09
Journalism  jojoleb@... | 06/08/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  SimonUK2 | 06/10/09
Mr. Perlow:  QueenMama | 06/10/09
Trolling? Never be seduced...  ladyirol | 06/14/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Lord Seth | 06/18/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Lord Seth | 06/18/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  ttcrossover | 06/18/09
YES!!! THANKYOU!!!  nintendoeats | 06/19/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  legalese1 | 06/19/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  edge57 | 06/19/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  FearThe7 | 06/19/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  kentuckyfried | 06/19/09
Torn between two Worlds  Peabody99224@... | 06/19/09
Definition of OS X  The_Curmudgeon | 06/19/09
idiots!!!  i8thecat | 06/24/09
Arrogance runs both ways [& I use both.]  artSavant | 06/20/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  AdrianWerner | 06/20/09
amazing article...very truthfully spoken.  pixiegod | 06/20/09
Touche  Peabody99224@... | 06/21/09
Talk about arrogance  iRocket | 06/21/09
Mac Fanboys Are The Worst....  robertmro | 06/22/09
Aaaaawww... there there wif a pat pat....  i8thecat | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  kkevilus | 06/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  snowpants | 06/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  john_gillespie@... | 06/22/09
APPLE & Pro Tools 'the dinosaur'!  8000 | 06/22/09
.....  8000 | 06/22/09
You need more than that....  i8thecat | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  8000 | 06/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  dasprem@... | 06/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Rush Gorden | 06/22/09
Can you blame us fo being outspoken??  kaninelupus | 06/26/09
What I think...  jf79 | 06/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jf79 | 06/22/09
Here, here!  BigTipper | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  jmacdonald@... | 06/23/09
Funny you mention printers  trance2tec | 06/24/09
You were a little harsh on Steve Jobs.  jimroar2000 | 06/24/09
well, he is a douche  AdrianWerner | 06/24/09
More like marketing talent  kaninelupus | 06/26/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  SamhainAZ | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  guitodd | 06/24/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  BigTipper | 06/24/09
Microsoft is the most proprietary lockboxer on earth  jryanp | 06/25/09
Umm... check again kiddo  kaninelupus | 06/26/09
I feel the same way.  Darkamster2004 | 06/25/09
Why I Gave Up and Bought a Mac  kent_brewster@... | 06/26/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  hillman.d@... | 06/27/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  gennx30 | 06/29/09
Why should you own a Mac?  puka98 | 07/01/09
While I'll agree that Apple computers have  mustangj36@... | 07/01/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  baberuthteam | 07/02/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  lawgone | 07/03/09
It is preference  sgtm8@... | 07/07/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  dnheller | 07/07/09
Best Apple Computer = iPhone  azsilvertip | 07/07/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  lpratte | 07/07/09
Mac is better BS, and other ignorant ravings of the uninformed.  anything33 | 07/09/09
Great article!  LeonBA | 07/13/09
Apple marketing  Gordon James | 07/19/09
Another Rabid Fanboy Ranting About other Rabid Fanboys  ChristaPhoFoSho | 07/20/09
Don't Be So Sure, Yet  asamboy | 07/20/09
Accusing Jobs of arrogance, but not Gates and Ballmer...?  bob.ess@... | 07/27/09
As a programmer/writer...  GrizzledGeezer | 07/27/09
Don't Hate Us Because We're Beautiful  robertmro | 07/27/09
You're The Smartest Person In Discussion!  robertmro | 07/27/09
Thank You  robertmro | 07/27/09
I Think You're Not Give Yourself Enough Credit  robertmro | 07/27/09
That's Enough  robertmro | 07/27/09
Oh Yeah  robertmro | 07/27/09
"F" You Too.  robertmro | 07/27/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jofu | 07/27/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Amacf1 | 07/27/09
Don't Hate Us Because We're Beautiful Part 2  robertmro | 07/27/09
Another Great Post!  robertmro | 07/27/09
Are You Making Fun of Me?  robertmro | 07/27/09
What Gives You That Idea?  robertmro | 07/27/09
Hitler, Hitler, Hitler  robertmro | 07/27/09
You Can't Shut Me Up That Easily  robertmro | 07/27/09
Where's The Moderator?  robertmro | 07/27/09
Who's being arrogant here  pgstocker | 07/27/09
Please Don't Hate Us Because We're Beautiful Part 3  robertmro | 07/27/09
I'm Still Here!  robertmro | 07/27/09
Oh God, You're Right  robertmro | 07/27/09
Don't You Feel Better Now?  robertmro | 07/27/09
No!  robertmro | 07/27/09
The I Have A Solution  robertmro | 07/27/09
You Call That A Solution?  robertmro | 07/27/09
ZENet stirs isues to keep healthy on google  pgstocker | 07/28/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  dyler | 07/31/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  workshopmusic | 08/01/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  dent.nic | 08/02/09
RE: "Screwed" Investing  csdesigns@... | 08/10/09
My 5 Year Old PC Beats Benchmarks of the New Mac...  buntingdisaster@... | 08/13/09
Mr. Shoe on other foot  WOW! | 08/14/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jeffgoins | 08/17/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  isabelle2378 | 08/19/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  samliu0207@... | 08/23/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  mafut | 08/28/09
You can't fix stupid...  zero2dash | 09/03/09
blarg  les413 | 09/04/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  kkevilus | 09/07/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Enyalius | 09/07/09
I'm neither an Apple Fan nor a Microsoft Fan  john.foggitt@... | 09/07/09
Mactards offended my sensibilities  gcbright1 | 09/07/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  NURREDIN | 09/07/09
Great Article  thermoid | 09/07/09
Umm, yeah.  msgaus | 09/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  spikedstrider | 09/08/09
RE: Apple - Windows  aztec11us | 09/08/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  aztec11us | 09/08/09
Ummm ... have you ever...  fairportfan | 09/09/09
....and tell me again, WHY this is on ZDnet?  KGameLover1 | 09/10/09
Obviously Uber-fail guy  wellduh | 09/10/09
I guess you know arrogance when you see it.  msgaus | 09/11/09
Fanboys? Hard to take seriously.  msgaus | 09/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  whatevertimestwo | 09/13/09
Apple Lovers Forget their look is copied!  cdhanks | 09/13/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  proudgeek | 09/15/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  Ultrawoman | 09/18/09
Why so angry, Perlow ?  grimlosh | 09/18/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  robrat69@... | 10/09/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  sdyates2001@... | 10/09/09
Arrogance Is Not a Virtue  non-sequitur | 10/09/09
Hey, Jason loosen up...  mikifinaz1@... | 10/09/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  chas_2 | 10/09/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  mnemennth | 10/10/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  underm03 | 10/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  fanjet@... | 10/11/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a Mac  jegan10@... | 10/22/09
RE: Apple Faithful: Arrogance Is Not a Virtue, and Why I Will Never Buy a M  Rufustheangryelf | 10/26/09

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